Speculation Clayton Oliver [UFA 2030]

[sleep]

Big Red coming home.

Dees - Big Red Oliver + 30% Retention
Cats - Nothing.

Free Transfer.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

This is clearly going to happen. Going to be a standard setter on these trades moving forward.

Contract makes it very difficult. I'm not sure it does unless he agrees to take a pay cut (and the afl sign off on it). But we at least know him and Geelong are both interested now.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Contract makes it very difficult. I'm not sure it does unless he agrees to take a pay cut (and the afl sign off on it). But we at least know him and Geelong are both interested now.

There's 3 interested parties, it will get done. It will just drag out coz there's a fair bit to sort out.

Honestly, your clubs clear significant interest is most surprising but I suppose not many other clubs can take on the risk - particularly if there's been MORE events to trigger the move from Melbourne.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Your quoting Tom Morris....FMD you Geelong supporters are gullible.

Its not Perts job.

Get your head out of your ass.

You asked for proof where Pert was shopping Oliver and it was provided there right in front of you.

Be delusional all you want, but Morris has been right all along starting with the Petracca saga which he nailed on thr spot.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Get your head out of your ass.

You asked for proof where Pert was shopping Oliver and it was provided there right in front of you.

Be delusional all you want, but Morris has been right all along starting with the Petracca saga which he nailed on thr spot.

Morris clearly has some great Melbourne contacts.

 

[RAPPA]

Was offloading Oliver part of the settlement to appease Trac so he holds leaving for another 12 months? If they trade Clarry and Trac decides to go walkabouts in 12 months time, adding to Brayshaw’s unexpected retirement, that’s their premiership midfield gone in the space of 24 months. Not to mention Gawn probably only having two years left in him

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Was offloading Oliver part of the settlement to appease Trac so he holds leaving for another 12 months? If they trade Clarry and Trac decides to go walkabouts in 12 months time, adding to Brayshaw’s unexpected retirement, that’s their premiership midfield gone in the space of 24 months. Not to mention Gawn probably only having two years left in him

I'd doubt it, Oliver and petracca have great on field chemistry. Why would they get rid of Oliver, a top 10 player in the comp when fit for nothing. If they trade petracca they'll be able to rebuild.

Surely Pert, Goodwin and richo go instead

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Was offloading Oliver part of the settlement to appease Trac so he holds leaving for another 12 months? If they trade Clarry and Trac decides to go walkabouts in 12 months time, adding to Brayshaw’s unexpected retirement, that’s their premiership midfield gone in the space of 24 months. Not to mention Gawn probably only having two years left in him

I suspect there's an element of Pert rug pulling his coaching department do he can do a clean out.

 

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[Elixuh]

Why is every Geelong player either a property investor, farmer or Cotton-on ambassador? I think we all know the answer.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There's 3 interested parties, it will get done. It will just drag out coz there's a fair bit to sort out.

Honestly, your clubs clear significant interest is most surprising but I suppose not many other clubs can take on the risk - particularly if there's been MORE events to trigger the move from Melbourne.

Maybe. We've met with other players before and it not got done.
The issue is the contract. For eg let's say he's owed 8.5 Mil BTW now and 2030. Geelong may say we will take you but we are paying 6mil Max.
Means that over the term he either has to restructure it and give up 2.5mil (if the afl would allow that) or melb pay 2.5mil.
I can't see Clayton wanting to give up cash and I'm not sure melb will tip in a lot.
The way Geelong have done contracts previously I find it unlikely they would take on his whole deal.
And I think that will be the reason it falls over.

But what the meeting tells you is he and Geelong are both keen and Melbourne are at least willing to look at it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Why is every Geelong player either a property investor, farmer or Cotton-on ambassador? I think we all know the answer.

Because it's the only regional club in Vic. Pretty obvious choice if you want to live on a farm. It's a lifestyle thing for some of the guys who grew up in rural areas.

 

[danster168]

lol this whole thing bores me. No way this happens. Why would melbourne do this when we can wait until next year when clubs can offer 2 first round picks?

Another non story and mainstreamers getting caught up in trade radio lol

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Maybe. We've met with other players before and it not got done.
The issue is the contract. For eg let's say he's owed 8.5 Mil BTW now and 2030. Geelong may say we will take you but we are paying 6mil Max.
Means that over the term he either has to restructure it and give up 2.5mil (if the afl would allow that) or melb pay 2.5mil.
I can't see Clayton wanting to give up cash and I'm not sure melb will tip in a lot.
The way Geelong have done contracts previously I find it unlikely they would take on his whole deal.
And I think that will be the reason it falls over.

But what the meeting tells you is he and Geelong are both keen and Melbourne are at least willing to look at it.

I'm pretty sure Melbourne told him to go look, that's the narrative going around anyway.

This is going to be one of those ones where no one has a clue what the price will be. There's no firm market set on cap to draft pick conversion and even if there was, no one on BF will know what it is.

Will be a spicy thread though

 

[buttox]

Requested a trade to Geelong

 

[perplexed]

Unprecedented

 

[T2B_]

lol this whole thing bores me. No way this happens. Why would melbourne do this when we can wait until next year when clubs can offer 2 first round picks?

Another non story and mainstreamers getting caught up in trade radio lol

He would have to improve a 1000% to be worth 2 first round picks.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm pretty sure Melbourne told him to go look, that's the narrative going around anyway.

This is going to be one of those ones where no one has a clue what the price will be. There's no firm market set on cap to draft pick conversion and even if there was, no one on BF will know what it is.

Will be a spicy thread though

Not untrue this whole idea of trading cap space for picks and vice versa is so new. I think it will make it hard to do a deal here but who knows. It really does depend on how the clubs negotiate the salary and what contract(s) end up getting lodged with the afl auditor.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

And Geelong will get him for half a bag of chips and the AFL will tick it off.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

lol this whole thing bores me. No way this happens. Why would melbourne do this when we can wait until next year when clubs can offer 2 first round picks?

Another non story and mainstreamers getting caught up in trade radio lol

It's clearly 2 reasons (if they trade him)
1. Culture wise they've decided they need him out (whether it's linked to petracca or coaches who knows)
And 2. If he stays and has another down year he almost becomes untradeable anywhere the contract would be unmovable. Yes that can work both ways in that if he has an awesome year his worth goes up but if they are worried his performance will go down from here it's probably a case of move him now or you can't move him at all.

 

[ozzy2012]

Might get a few Geelong players wanting out if he heads down the road.

 

[buttox]

Geelong do this easily.
Baz for a first rounder.
Oliver as a salary dump

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

You've really got your knickers in a knot here.

Never seen such a severe case of Geelong derangement syndrome as this poster. Long history of offended.

 

[BEEG]

Watch Dees give him up for nothing and pay some of the salary.

 

[Mich0]

If Pert was shopping him then why is it reported that the meeting with Geelong was a surprise? How the **** can it be a surprise if you are shopping him.

Geelong sound keen as mustard on him and will need to pay up.