Speculation Clayton Oliver [UFA 2030]

[theprospector]

The narrative all year was that Chris Scott is some genius coach taking a bunch of spuds to a top 4 spot. Now we've got superstars on every line.

p.s. The Perry Man would be our 2nd highest paid player.

2nd highest with Cotton On chipping in the rest

 

[STPer18]

2nd highest with Cotton On chipping in the rest

Collingwood have four players in the top 60 highest paid in the competition. Just paid some Perry Man guy $900k. Are paying Grundy and Treloar to play for other clubs.

Geelong have one player in the top 80 highest paid in the competition (Cameron). Are not paying for players to play for other teams.

When will the Collingwood rort be exposed?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Might get a few Geelong players wanting out if he heads down the road.

We don't have many players of the middle age that other clubs would target (mostly older guys that are too old to be chaseable or younger guys who haven't proven their worth yet). And we have cap room.
Asides from de koning who most clubs would have chased next year either way (and he isn't going this year) it really doesn't change much. It might force a couple of depth players like knevitt or clohesy out and it invariably means a couple of the older guys (bews Duncan maybe Guthrie or Atkins etc) will get moved to different roles or get put in the vfl-but I doubt anyone's losing sleep over that they don't move the needle much.

 

[MisterMarcus]

The narrative all year was that Chris Scott is some genius coach taking a bunch of spuds to a top 4 spot. Now we've got superstars on every line.

p.s. The Perry Man would be our 2nd highest paid player.

It's hilarious how the narrative constantly does Jumping Jack 180s to suit the hate.

We're full of old slow has-beens and mediocre hacks - but we're also rorting the salary cap to keep our awesome premiership worthy list together.

We're going to fall off a cliff and finish bottom 6 - but anything less than a flag is a massive failure.

We're an irrelevant minnow club who nobody cares about - but we get 1000s of obsessive posts written about us.

 

[fpm84]

Sorry but I call bullshit on Geelongs salary cap.
Doesn't pass the pub test.

Where did you tip us to finish this year?
Consensus among most was that we'd be 10th-16th.

 

[Rich01]

Great move by Geelong.
Scott obviously knows that Bruhn and Bowes as starting mids won’t cut it.

Danger, Smith, Holmes and Oliver suddenly turns their weakness into a strength.

 

[The 747]

 

[Tonythetiger]

1. Culture wise they've decided they need him out (whether it's linked to petracca or coaches who knows)
And 2. If he stays and has another down year he almost becomes untradeable anywhere the contract would be unmovable. Yes that can work both ways in that if he has an awesome year his worth goes up but if they are worried his performance will go down from here it's probably a case of move him now or you can't move him at all.

Even if he has a good year next year, it's still a pretty hefty contract for a club to take on. Given the uncertainty around him, I just can't seem him ever returning to the value before all this came about. He would need probably 2 good seasons with a spotless record and red hot form, at which point it would make more sense for Melbourne to just keep him for the rest of the contract anyway I guess.

I think if he does go this year, Dees fans will be pissed at what they get. Reckon Cats would be likely to get the best out of him too.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Sorry but I call bullshit on Geelongs salary cap.
Doesn't pass the pub test.

These are the salty oppo tears I am revelling in today.
Some random on the interwebz says it is suss so it must be.

 

[buttox]

So Geelong force it through for nothing as a salary dump the I bet we find out 2 weeks later he has taken a pay cut.
Dee's get screwed hard.

 

[Tonythetiger]

It's hilarious how the narrative constantly does Jumping Jack 180s to suit the hate.

We're full of old slow has-beens and mediocre hacks - but we're also rorting the salary cap to keep our awesome premiership worthy list together.

We're going to fall off a cliff and finish bottom 6 - but anything less than a flag is a massive failure.

We're an irrelevant minnow club who nobody cares about - but we get 1000s of obsessive posts written about us.

I think the majority of sane supporters can acknowledge you are an exceptionally run club, with an over abundance of unhinged posters like yourself suffering from severe mental illness.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Remember that time they self reported going over the cap every year for 8 years?

Nothing to see here.

It was small fry stuff. Hence the small fry fine.

7NEWS reporter Tom Browne understands the breach involved a GST error relating to management fees paid for by the club on behalf of players.

Seriously. Getting your knickers in a wad over an error on GST.

 

[Northernsoul74]

So Geelong force it through for nothing as a salary dump the I bet we find out 2 weeks later he has taken a pay cut.
Dee's get screwed hard.

They don’t have to trade him.

 

[rye]

everybody knows it but no point complaining about it.

 

[buttox]

They don’t have to trade him.

Oh I get that but the cats will totally play it that way. They won't pay his full contract. Might even get the dee's to pay some.
Then renegotiate it anyway.
It's 100% the play here.
Excellent work if they pull it off

 

[bird_man]

Sam “Harley isn’t going to WC” Mclure

Nothing actually quoted or of substance here.

How many journos need to report this before Melbourne supporters believe it?

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Collingwood have four players in the top 60 highest paid in the competition. Just paid some Perry Man guy $900k. Are paying Grundy and Treloar to play for other clubs.

Geelong have one player in the top 80 highest paid in the competition (Cameron). Are not paying for players to play for other teams.

When will the Collingwood rort be exposed?

Source please

 

[Mich0]

How many journos need to report this before Melbourne supporters believe it?

Link who else has said he has agreed to join Geelong

 

[The_Todd07]

They don’t have to trade him.

Correct

Their other choice is to hang onto a guy they shopped around. The situation that brought us to this point will have the opportunity to fester.

Both options can be wins for us, either we strengthen our biggest weakness or an opposition team weakens themselves

 

[Tonythetiger]

Dees should be moving him on and ideally not pay any salary, take unders if you need to but just make a clean cut. Goodwin will probably get the arse next year and maybe Petracca gets his wish to go. Staring down the barrel of a hard rebuild with compromised drafts coming up. They have squandered what could have been a golden era for the club.

 

[markm106]

So Geelong force it through for nothing as a salary dump the I bet we find out 2 weeks later he has taken a pay cut.
Dee's get screwed hard.

Dee’s could easily protect themselves against this. Agree to pay a percentage of the deal. Not a $ amount.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Even if he has a good year next year, it's still a pretty hefty contract for a club to take on. Given the uncertainty around him, I just can't seem him ever returning to the value before all this came about. He would need probably 2 good seasons with a spotless record and red hot form, at which point it would make more sense for Melbourne to just keep him for the rest of the contract anyway I guess.

I think if he does go this year, Dees fans will be pissed at what they get. Reckon Cats would be likely to get the best out of him too.

I don't disagree with the bit re his value I don't think he will ever be the value he would have been 2-3 years ago. But trading him this year might be the difference between getting say a r2 or something for him vs if they keep him and next year is bad they literally have to package their own r1 with him to dump the contract.

I do think Geelong is probably a good fit for a player with the behavioural issues he has-given the leadership-its probably a good environment to help him turn it around. But like a lot of Geelong fans I'm not that comfortable with his contract $ and the risk.

 

[Fluro Boots]

Gun when he’s up and running but I’m not sure he’s that kind of crackhead. This’ll be an interesting watch.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Dee’s could easily protect themselves against this. Agree to pay a percentage of the deal. Not a $ amount.

That's true if the afl would sign off on it. I bet whatever contract gets lodged (if it goes through) we never really will be told exactly what specific amounts each club is paying.

 

[Toump Ass]

Surprised he hasn't considered going to West Coast Eagles, could have all free Hungry Jacks he wants up there.