Speculation Clayton Oliver [UFA 2030]

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Would be the correct thing to do. AFL needs more stars and losing Oliver to mental health @ the Dees wouldnt be profitable at the AFL.

AFLPA (Danger) in talks with Oliver. Supposedly Oliver is punting next year as well if he doesnt get to the GFC.

AFLPA putting the press on Melbourne to do the deal. 50% retention + 2nd rounder from the dees.

You are just full of it mate.


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Would be the correct thing to do. AFL needs more stars and losing Oliver to mental health @ the Dees wouldnt be profitable at the AFL.

AFLPA (Danger) in talks with Oliver. Supposedly Oliver is punting next year as well if he doesnt get to the GFC.

AFLPA putting the press on Melbourne to do the deal. 50% retention + 2nd rounder from the dees.
Have a spell mate.
 

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Clarry would fill a desperate need for the Cats even at 80% and could probably turn us into premiers next season. That being said I think we could probably make a case for letting our current midfield group continue developing and bring in a slightly younger star midfielder in the future.
Irrelevant anyway if MFC don't let him go and he decides he doesn't want to leave.
 
Geelong can just wait another year.. If he has another bad season he will be worth close to nothing next year with that contract.
that's correct. And if he plays well, he'll be worth double. It's a big year for Clayton.

But I love how everyone is critical of Melbourne for not trading a player that wants out but there's many clubs that are doing the same thing. GWS are playing hardball over Wade Derksen who has said he wants to leave. So it's just because Clayton is high profile that mfc gets the backlash.
 
Geelong can just wait another year.. If he has another bad season he will be worth close to nothing next year with that contract.
You’re right he would be worth nothing in trade but Geelong would still need to take on his salary which I’m not sure how they make that work. Because it’s fanciful if they think Melbourne are actually going to keep paying half his salary
 
that's correct. And if he plays well, he'll be worth double. It's a big year for Clayton.

But I love how everyone is critical of Melbourne for not trading a player that wants out but there's many clubs that are doing the same thing. GWS are playing hardball over Wade Derksen who has said he wants to leave. So it's just because Clayton is high profile that mfc gets the backlash.

Again, to be fair, the only reason Oliver was even up for discussion, is because he was shopped around by Pert. Every other club has enquired about a player, and then that player has been held (thus far) - as is a club's right.

Had we enquired about Oliver and had a meeting and been told 'soz, offer sucks and we're keeping him', there would be literally no story. The problem, and the major difference is, that this has happened to Oliver two years in a row - this time he wasn't even considering leaving...until Pert tried to covertly enquire about the possibility, and pissed him and his management off.

Honestly, if you sack Pert and Lamb, you'd probably look a lot more united as a club, IMO. Essentially saying 'only a handful of people wanted Clayton gone, and those people weren't in alignment with the club and its ethos' - or something to that effect. As it stands, no-one is in alignment on anything right now, and it's all damage control to protect their own interests.
 
We only have about 4 players contracted beyond 2026.

We've got half a dozen premiership players that won't be on our list from next year, replaced with guys like Ollie Dempsey and Lawson Humphries.

That premiership team also had a good chunk of players that came from the rookie list, so aren't on big bucks even after resigning, Stengle being the exception.

Sometimes I think people see us linked to players and add their value to our salary cap but never remove them if the trade doesn't happen
Sometimes I think opposition supporters look at how Geelong has been so successfully run for the past 16 or so years and wish their club could do the same. Players like Dangerfield, Stewart, Stengle and Cameron could command much higher dollars at other clubs, but it isn't always about the money. Hell, Isaac Smith was offered a ridiculous contract by MFC but chose Geelong for lifestyle reasons.

Last week the HUN reported a list of the number of highly paid players on each AFL team list in 2024. Geelong had 3 assumed to be Cameron, Dangerfield and Stewart. Melbourne, for example, had 8.
 
umm yes. twice the player. Multiple BnFs, AA's, and 2x afl coaches award. Awards coming out of his ears.

I would rephrase the question, you're in your flag window and you can only take 1 player for the next 3 years, which one are you taking? Clearly it's Oliver.
No its not
What do you expect? the guy was waking up in ambulances, snapping windscreen wipers and rocking up to pre-season 10kg overweight. Don't put this on Melbourne! This is 100% on Oliver. Fancy expecting to feel wanted after his behaviour.

That's why I'd take Smith.
 
Sometimes I think opposition supporters look at how Geelong has been so successfully run for the past 16 or so years and wish their club could do the same. Players like Dangerfield, Stewart, Stengle and Cameron could command much higher dollars at other clubs, but it isn't always about the money. Hell, Isaac Smith was offered a ridiculous contract by MFC but chose Geelong for lifestyle reasons.

Last week the HUN reported a list of the number of highly paid players on each AFL team list in 2024. Geelong had 3 assumed to be Cameron, Dangerfield and Stewart. Melbourne, for example, had 8.
Gawn, Petracca, Oliver…..starting to get speculative after that. Viney? Lever? May? Who else?
 
Bailey Smith is coming off an Acl and has documented mental health issues. He is arguably more risky.

Heaps of players are fine coming off ACL's, hell one just won a Norm Smith and had a ripping 2nd half of the year. Granted Smith does have a bit of history with mental health but it absolutely pales in comparison to Oliver. It is also telling that for the 2nd year in a row Melbourne don't really know what to do with him.
 

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Heaps of players are fine coming off ACL's, hell one just won a Norm Smith and had a ripping 2nd half of the year. Granted Smith does have a bit of history with mental health but it absolutely pales in comparison to Oliver. It is also telling that for the 2nd year in a row Melbourne don't really know what to do with him.
clearly we want to trade him. but for a fair price.
 
Would be the correct thing to do. AFL needs more stars and losing Oliver to mental health @ the Dees wouldnt be profitable at the AFL.

AFLPA (Danger) in talks with Oliver. Supposedly Oliver is punting next year as well if he doesnt get to the GFC.

AFLPA putting the press on Melbourne to do the deal. 50% retention + 2nd rounder from the dees.
You the one that called up TR, saying it's a 'human rights violation'?
 
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Pretty simple solution for Oliver then if he's that desperate to get out:

Go to Melbourne, tell them to rip up his contract and trade him to Geelong.

He can negotiate a modest $500k contract with them and have performance incentives.

But he doesn't want to do that because he wants his guaranteed money.

What an absolute pisstake. Just retire already if it's that bad.
 

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