List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[HS Like a librarian]

I know it's been documented that this is a shallow draft? How shallow are we talking and when is the quality likely to drop off?

 

[Gabbo64]

We were never using 41 and 50 so it's more like Henry for Mitchell + 25.

No, that's exactly what it's like....

So net result from Grundy and Henry trades:

Swapped out Grundy for Mitchell. I can live with that except Mitchell is a year older.

Henry upgrade Pick 50 -> Pick 27, Pick 41 ->25. Yea not great. Unless we can package up 25 and 27 somehow into a first rounder which I doubt. Would've been better if we had just received what Geelong traded to Brisbane for pick 25.

No, we were never going to use 50 so Henry for pick 25 and 27

 

[Bloben]

So in a weak draft how many picks do we use? Would we be happy to bundle up everything to get a top 10 pick and then upgrade Noble and Ginnivin?

 

[partypie]

Because I don't believe we needed a 3 way deal to secure Mitchell and pick 25 aka Henry.

But we probably needed the three way deal to convince the Hawks that they didn't want one of our picks in the 20's for Mitchell.

 

[TheGreatSwan]

Icing on a black and white cake!!

 

[Chrispiesssss]

My question now is, are 6 teams going to pass the opportunity to select the next Joel Sellwood?

Isn’t that Ginnivan?

 

[3rdMan]

We call that the "draft" of which we have 3 top 30 picks

Only pick 28 is for Henry though. Crap shoot at that point.

The preference would have been to bring in a young player, recovering the two years of lost development.

No doubt Henry going out is a loss and we haven't replaced that in the trade period.

 

[loki04]

To be clear we got a former Brownlow medalist who fits the most glaring hole on our list paying half his wage for the cost of two picks we weren’t going to use? If it means we have to say we took Henry for 25 then so be it!

Except when it's us losing players like treloar and Grundy, then it's also fair we get reemed and we should think it's a good deal to...

End of the day we have improved the list overall and happy with the ins in terms of recruits.

Does not mean I feel we traded well and "won" in any sense of the word.

 

[JuniorB]

Yes,that’s pretty much what happened.Well done to Graham Wright.He got exactly who he was looking for and created some much needed salary cap space,while protecting our top picks as well.

Yes, well done GW.
Baggers offered pick 25 & we ended up with 25 & a Brownlow Medallist who happens to be exactly what our midfield needs.
I think Titch will have a point to prove next year.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Paying less on Grundy's contract and having at least half of it offset with Hawks paying Mitchell's contract.

Keeping pick 27.

Mcstay, Mitchell, Hill and Peter Frampton arriving.

Kudos to GW.
Enjoy a few red wines tonight.

 

[jimmy35]

That’s still only 25 for Henry

41 and 50 for Mitchell

With the help of Geelong trading Stephens to the Hawks which was an intricate part of the deal.

 

[12kilos]

i think we done well under a shit situation

 

[GreekLunatic]

Hawks at least are easier to deal with then the cats remember some of Geelong stars who carried them to the flag are about to retire

 

[Scodog10]

Geelong gave up 38, 48, 55, 2023 2nd, 2023 4th plus Cooper Stephens for Henry

EFA. I don’t know know there list well enough to be super confident on this, but it feels a lot.

 

[Scud2]

That’s still only 25 for Henry

41 and 50 for Mitchell

And a good chuck of his salary paid…

 

[manicmagpie]

Looking at the overall picture of our trade period, and I’m happy.

Out: Grundy & Henry, future 2nd & 3rd

In: McStay, Hill, Frampton, Mitchell, picks 25 & 27

We‘ve recruited to fix weak spots in the list - our 2023 best 22 looks way better and our depth has been shored up.

 

[JoinDate]

Doesn't this dude post on these boards?

 

[pie machine]

Was hoping to get pick 7 to grab Hollands but there’ll be a slider at 16
Very good trade period

Might still get him if he slides

 

[PieBeast]

Hey remember when there was a stupid rumour that people almost bought into about us getting Parrish?

F**king lol

Legendary Scout lololol

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[iGNITER]

How?

We offered 41 for Mitchell and Hawks wanted rumoured 27, should of landed somewhere in between.
Picks 41 and 50 bring it close to par.

We effectively lost Henry for 25 as Stephens is not coming to us.

Hawks benefited.

We effectively gave up Henry for Mitchell and pick 25.

We were only going to use 2-3 picks in the draft this year so the 41 & 50 were nothing picks for us.

Go into the draft with 16, 25 & 27 with the potential to move up the order.

It's all personal opinion but overall I am satisfied.

 

[Ingy]

How?

We offered 41 for Mitchell and Hawks wanted rumoured 27, should of landed somewhere in between.
Picks 41 and 50 bring it close to par.

We effectively lost Henry for 25 as Stephens is not coming to us.

Hawks benefited.

You are tripping.

41 was never getting it done for Mitchell. He's a Brownlow medallist for pete's sake.

Pick 50 is worth three quarters of eff all.

We ditched junk picks and a little sook and got a crucial cog in our continued improvement (we NEEDED a first possession getter) and a useful pick.

To get Henry, Geelong had to lose a pick 16 and add it to the pick 25.

That is how

 

[hellfire]

Cracking result! Well done GW. We are massive winners in that trade.

Welcome Tom Mitchell, we are rapt to have you, and good ****ing riddance to the ****ing sook!

 

[unplugged]

Great trade period.

Lost 2 players who arguably could be or should be best 22 but weren't this year.

But replaced them with 3 best 22 players, all big needs.

Worst part is our draft hand next year is pretty shitty but our hand this year isn't so bad.

 

[stormskye]

Henry wanted out. Our hands were tied. If you’re not happy with Mitchell and pick 25 for Henry, you never will be.

Picks 41 and 50 have no value whatsoever in a shallow draft.

I’m very happy so far, be interesting to see what we do on draft night