List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[thommo_legend]

Feel like this board was completely in acceptance about the Melb Grundy deal for ~20s pick + lower payment contribution over the last week we've talked about it. So many people only now coming up saying it's the worst deal ever?

It's a good deal, gives us a chance to land a big free agent in the next few years

 

[BEEG]

Crazy how everyone is defending GW when we were universally rioting against Ned Guy who got us arguably a better result in more strenuous circumstances.

And I'm definitely no Ned Guy supporter. Just want to finally have some competent list management and trading strategy which unfortunately still isn't coming with this recent change of regime.

He will be judged on the Henry trade in my opinion and what we get Mitchell for.

He didn't sign Grundy to that deal, not going to judge him to harshly.

 

[Ugene41]

do you have a source for the 150k pa wage contribution? - the assessment of this trade relies on the payment contribution 300k bad trade, 150k good trade. For those who are complaining - simple fact is 1 million for a player who is slowing down, more prone to injuries and not the best ruckman in the game, is not a good salary cap imvestment. Mcstay - yes we paid overs but he is much more versatile and agile, and he has 5.1 contested marks per game, 5 more on average than grundy - and is playing out the entiritiy of the season. - time will tell - but if 150k - i like this trade

5.1 contested marks per game to Mcstay? Where are you getting that? He averages 1.3. Less than Mason Cox.

 

[What is a cakewalk]

Feel like this board was completely in acceptance about the Melb Grundy deal for ~20s pick + lower payment contribution over the last week we've talked about it. So many people only now coming up saying it's the worst deal ever?

Just because i knew it was coming didn't make it less painful unfortunately...

 

[Scribe26]

What’s crazy though with Grundy leaving our history with 1st round picks is even worse.

1st round picks :
12 -Grundy, Kennedy, Broomhead
13 - Schaz, Freeman
14 - JDG & Moore
15 - n/a (Sier & Phillips year)
16 - n/a (Mclarty & C.Brown)
17 - Stevo
18 - IQ
19 - N/A (Rantall & Bianco)
20 - Ollie & Finlay
21 - Naicos

Prior to Grundy, it was Sidebottom & Pendles.

This is not a bad drafting record?

 

[jatsad]

Crazy how everyone is defending GW when we were universally rioting against Ned Guy who got us arguably a better result in more strenuous circumstances.

And I'm definitely no Ned Guy supporter. Just want to finally have some competent list management and trading strategy which unfortunately still isn't coming with this recent change of regime.

Are you for real.?
GW is clearing house with all the crap he was handed.
That's it now for ludicrous contracts. Grundy is ageing, injury prone and has been very average for 2 years.
Brought in roles players with lots of upside and another probably on the way.

Don't know what you're after.

 

[BEEG]

Feel like this board was completely in acceptance about the Melb Grundy deal for ~20s pick + lower payment contribution over the last week we've talked about it. So many people only now coming up saying it's the worst deal ever?

Very happy to get out from under that contract it all comes down to what where paying now.

If where paying 300k and got 27 its shithouse if where paying 150k its a good deal.

 

[hellfire]

It's a decent outcome for Grundy if we're paying $150k or less of his salary as reported.

 

[WakeUpPies]

We really screwed ourselves with the contract but you have to have a laugh. We got robbed and got a shit pick ... and are still paying Grundy to play for a fellow premiership contender next season and beyond. ****ing Geelong gets Pick 7.

 

[Matrix10]

I've got the following players ahead of Grundy in no particular order.

De Goey
Pendlebury
Sidebottom
Maynard
Lipinski
Adams
Moore
J Daicos
N Daicos
Elliot
Howe
Crisp

Add. Quaynor Mihocek.

 

[anshell]

After Henry gets traded that's 6 first round picks connected to players being traded leaving the club.

Beams 2x
Treloar 2x
Grundy 1x
Henry 1x

Don’t forget Stephenson,and Scharanberg and Freeman who both didn’t make it as AFL players.Hine has a lot to answer for for the picks he’s made in the last ten years.That’s why Wright is scouring the country looking for cheap imports to fill in the holes on our list.

 

[LuckyLee]

After Henry gets traded that's 6 first round picks connected to players being traded leaving the club.

Beams 2x
Treloar 2x
Grundy 1x
Henry 1x

Plus Freeman & Scharenberg


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[What is a cakewalk]

It's a good deal, gives us a chance to land a big free agent in the next few years

Does it though? When have we ever landed a big free agent? We get b graders at best. This is what we said about zac merret in 2020, but here we are in 2022 doing more salary dumps.

 

[magpienato]

FFS, two in sixty-f**ing-four years, stop crying. You want to win a premiership? These are the moves you have to make.

 

[Ugene41]

Ned Guy was one of the people who did the Grundy contract.....

GW is fixing up the mess he made.

Ned Guy didn't do the Treloar contract. He was fixing up someone else's mistake and clearing house.

GW did the JDG and McStay contract. I'm sure someone else will fix up his mess as we inevitably repeat this cycle down the line.

 

[BEEG]

Don’t forget Stephenson,and Scharanberg and Freeman who both didn’t make it as AFL players.Hine has a lot to answer for for the picks he’s made in the last ten years.That’s why Wright is scoring in the country looking for cheap imports to fill in the holes on our list.

Plus Freeman & Scharenberg


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[jonbe54]

FFS, two in sixty-f**ing-four years, stop crying. You want to win a premiership? These are the moves you have to make.

It's always the lament of those trying to find fault - it's a flare tipped give away

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Crazy how everyone is defending GW when we were universally rioting against Ned Guy who got us arguably a better result in more strenuous circumstances.

And I'm definitely no Ned Guy supporter. Just want to finally have some competent list management and trading strategy which unfortunately still isn't coming with this recent change of regime.

In what way is it arguable that Ned Guy got a better result?

He got less in return and paid more of the outgoing salary.

 

[caloschwaby]

Just because i knew it was coming didn't make it less painful unfortunately...

It is painful, mostly because it was avoidable. Sadly now it became necessary.

 

[Ugene41]

Does it though? When have we ever landed a big free agent? We get b graders at best. This is what we said about zac merret in 2020, but here we are in 2022 doing more salary dumps.

Yea we've spent the savings attracting B grade Mcstay already according to a poster above.

 

[caloschwaby]

FFS, two in sixty-f**ing-four years, stop crying. You want to win a premiership? These are the moves you have to make.

You were... how old when you were watching the '58 flag?

 

[jatsad]

GW on Trade Radio in a minute. Let's see what he's got to say.

 

[nahnah]

Our drafting has been awful for a long time, Hine has long gone past his use by date, I made a thread about that like 2 years ago.. wouldn't blame Wright for any of this. If he gives away Henry for peanuts I will happily be angry and point the finger at him for that, the Grundy mess and poor drafting have not been his fault though

 

[Scodog10]

Just floating a theory. Is the Fiorini interest falling flat about list spaces in preparation for the Henry deal falling through?

 

[Chrispiesssss]

This is not a bad drafting record?

Grundy & JDG are the only ones who have turned out good from our “drafting”.

Moore, IQ & Naicos were handed to us.

Finlay too early to judge. Everyone else no good or traded.