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List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023
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When l heard Tay wanted to leave, l wondered what we would do with his cap space. Schulz was the man, but l know nothing!!!!
Obviously Fly wanted him, so he believes that he will make us better. Happy to trust Fly as they have the runs on the board with their choice of recruits.
Obviously Fly wanted him, so he believes that he will make us better. Happy to trust Fly as they have the runs on the board with their choice of recruits.
It means Sydney value him more than Melbourne did.
Besides, a third rounder is steak knives at best.
Witts to GC for pick 3 million…
I doubt Schultz is owed what we would've paid Adams next year. He's also younger and arguably (actually, not that much argument is needed) better in the same position.
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Can anyone access this article?
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Yes! They just might be our academy!
Do you mean points value for on trading to other teams?
Because unless you have a FS or Academy player outside value to others they mean sweet fa to your draft selection position.
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"I see it working really, really well. I am really, really excited. I am really bullish about the fact it can work."
"It's funny, I've had to turn my arch nemesis into my best friend, and it's happened pretty quickly,”
"Any club that shows a player at the door almost like that was, it's always a big game no matter what."
"I dare say he'll probably get the first centre bounce, I don't think I can talk him out of that."
"He’s now at a club that really values what he brings to his team, we’re certainly going to embrace that"
Oh how much I'd love to see Bruz tear Goodwin a new one!
"It's funny, I've had to turn my arch nemesis into my best friend, and it's happened pretty quickly,”
"Any club that shows a player at the door almost like that was, it's always a big game no matter what."
"I dare say he'll probably get the first centre bounce, I don't think I can talk him out of that."
"He’s now at a club that really values what he brings to his team, we’re certainly going to embrace that"
Oh how much I'd love to see Bruz tear Goodwin a new one!
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What do we reckon will get the Shultz trade done? 19+33?
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That is WAY overs
Pick 19 is the deal. Maybe a swap of other picks if they want more
Disappointed we helped make Sydney a contender again and all we got was pick 33. I guess the club just did the right thing by Adams or maybe there was a lot of contract to pay on Adams contract next year that we were happy to avoid.
Seems about par when you remove the emotional side of it. A 30 year old inside mid, with an injury history behind him, that was probably going to have a few youngster look to move past him - a mid second rounder seems about right.
Would've loved 25 - would've loathed 44, we've landed in the middle. Thanks for everything Tay!
Would've loved 25 - would've loathed 44, we've landed in the middle. Thanks for everything Tay!
We would likely get a pick mid 40s back to give us a 2nd pick to use. 19 and 33 only would be too much.
I think the city of Sydney is, we've done well out of GWS too.
I say we got overs with Hill, Mitchell and Frampton all being part of our Premiership team and McStay kicking 2 the week before in a 1pt win.
Let's not jump the gun here. Hamling sucks ass. Adams helps, but he's no Mills, who he'll be replacing for a large portion of the season due to injury. In theory Grundy makes them better, but I don't know if they vault into the top 4 based on these moves.
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If you don’t ask, you’ll never know. At the minimum the benefit is that it makes Geelong cough up a little more for him.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's 19 and and one of the 30's picks for Schultz and 45.
Try and package 33/38 + 45 into an early 20's pick and see what happens draft day.
You're making too much sense.
You can also add that, that at this point in his career he's not going to get any better, people should look at this as what he would probably be worth as a player next season, not the past season.
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Craig McRae’s powers of persuasion can move mountains.
For Fremantle half forward Lachie Schultz, it wasn’t even a fair fight.
Collingwood looks set to land Schultz in coming days using all the hallmarks that won them the flag – McRae’s charisma and glass-half-full approach, football boss Graham Wright’s dealmaking and the power of football’s biggest club.
And this time the dexterity to be able to act in a matter of days to use the setback of Taylor Adams’ exit as an opportunity to dive head first into wooing Schultz.
Schultz and his partner have always wanted to return to Victoria at some stage given family reasons, but had put that move on the backburner as recently as season’s end.
He had put together another consistently excellent season – 33.19 (second only to Jye Amiss’s 41 majors), an average of 1.1 score assists, 5.5 score involvements, 4.1 tackles.
He ticked off a games-based clause that locked the unrestricted free agent in until 2024, actually limiting his options this off-season.
But talks were underway about another extension.
Lachie Schultz has requested a trade to Collingwood. Picture: Michael Klein
He would secure a significant pay rise, the move home would be delayed, and his multiple suitors including Collingwood would have to move on.
The Dockers, fully aware of his reasons for one day moving home, believed they had got their man.
But during the post-season break Schultz and partner Maddie returned home to spend time in Echuca and Moama – both attended school together in Moama – and realised how much they missed family and friends.
Only they can say how that development might have affected his contract discussions and future if the Taylor Adams move hadn’t played out after Callum Mills wrecked his shoulder on Mad Monday.
On the Wednesday after the grand final, Adams told the Pies he was exploring a trade to Sydney.
They were floored given he was still the club’s vice-captain.
Swans football boss Charlie Gardiner wouldn’t confirm if Sydney had made first contact or whether Adams had broached a move, following his great mate Brodie Grundy.
But suddenly the Pies had a hole at half forward, up to $600,000 of cap space, and would secure another draft pick for Adams to go with their own first-round selection.
Contact was made over the weekend between the parties.
McRae’s pitch was overpowering, as usual.
And while Hawthorn had chased Schultz hard two years ago, those close to him knew Collingwood was the perfect landing spot to make use of Schultz’s powers.
The former plumbing apprentice who found his way to AFL through the Bendigo Pioneers and Williamstown, he is less interested in the bright lights and fame than a chance to maximise his football potential.
Collingwood, with an elite midfield, a wide-open premiership window and 15-plus MCG games a year, fits the bill perfectly.
That McRae pitch is believed to have come over the weekend.
McRae has turned role players like Billy Frampton and Bobby Hill into premiership heroes, so what will he do once he gets his hands on Schultz?
Schultz kicked 33 goals for the Dockers in 2023. Picture: Getty Images
Collingwood is aware their offer to Fremantle will have to be more significant than any free agency compensation the Dockers could acquire if they held him next year.
A deal involving a player from another club heading to Fremantle had fallen through by Wednesday, so the Pies and Fremantle will continue to haggle.
And yet Wright rarely fails to deliver.
Collingwood is in that perfect post-premiership glow where even paying slightly too much from a trade perspective will be fine by the Magpie Army.
If he lands at the Pies the 178cm forward will arrive as a goalkicker but Pies fans will fall in love with his tackling early on.
He is a tough little bugger, rating elite for forward 50 pressure as well as being a lovely touch kick to advantage who snaps well for goals on both feet.
So in a competition that has never been equal, the premiers only get stronger just as Richmond did with Tom Lynch in 2019 and Geelong with Ollie Henry last year.
Add landing Schultz to McRae’s recent list of achievements including a 50th birthday on preliminary final day, an AFL premiership and a new daughter Maggie with wife Gabrielle.
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