List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[CheckerTrade666]

Bobby's manager confirmed on Trade Radio that discussions have commenced with the club about extending/restructuring his deal.

Thank gosh. If you go on the AFL website his face is right their with the headline of ‘Hill in talks’.Thought it was a possible trade rumour away. Absolutely trolled

 

[Tadpole]

Just when I thought the hatred couldn't deepen any further.

 

[sr36]

Houston and Perryman are wildly different cost scenarios.

One’s OOC and receiving a significant pay increase while the other is having their tab picked up and might be on unders for their output. If word came out that we were re-structuring Houston’s deal in line with his output he’d be on $1.2m going forward. Do you think we’re venturing into those waters?

I agree with your take that clubs will value things differently I’ll still sit with cash being king though because of its ability to shape the minds of a recruit. I also can’t fault that assessment it just differs from your initial take. I would say though that GC’s top end is nowhere near the level of the other 5 (us included). Right now the only two on their list I’d actively chase are Flanders and Andrew. The rest fold faster than Superman on laundry day which is why they can’t put it together on the road.

I don't know with GC and they've always struggled to recruit and retain so salary cap space for them is a bit of a different scenario, at least until they're a respected team. But assume they'll bet ton what they've got and will continue to get coming through to provide the top end - and they probably can't attract it any other way.

I'm just not convinced they'll overpay for Noble. Rioli is their high priority. Is Noble a high priority too? A back up? Something they think would be nice but not willing to pay a bomb for if they have Rioli already? My view is that a high price for Rioli helps Richmond and not us as it means that they might place less value on Noble and could shift their value towards future points for matching. I hope it plays out with him getting us a big return, but it's a guess. Our best chance of getting a good return could be to get it done early, because the price may drop after Rioli is over the line. If Richmond are being ridiculous GC might be best off getting the Noble deal done and then pretending to walk away from Rioli to get Richmond to play ball.

 

[AmericanMustard]

Just when I thought the hatred couldn't deepen any further.

The hatred for Kelly and Browne? It’s a fair and reasonable view point!

 

[Tadpole]

The hatred for Kelly and Browne? It’s a fair and reasonable view point!

For Carlol, I was referring to. I don't care where he goes, as long as it's not there.

 

[VinnieB]

It’s a long exchange you’re jumping in on here and that was never my point…

oopsy.

 

[cfc19902010]

If he goes there that’s treason

 

[Ugene41]

If there’s one thing I’ve learned the past week since we got serious about Perryman this one is going to shock some on here!

This has been talked about way before Perryman was chased as a FA.

It will be the standard contract extension in signed one year before the comes out of contract end of 2026.

I'm willing to hold a bet and revisit that it won't be anywhere near the $1m p.a. you've been sprouting.

 

[jimmy35]

Wrighty fall out with someone in the Pies, seems to be a lot of chat about him starting up elsewhere. Thought he was on sabbatical?

 

[Gabbo64]

He is uncontracted, we can't just keep him if we choose like we can for Noble

But we can match offers

 

[Scodog10]

What’s your prediction?

My guess is it’ll start with a 1. No idea what the second number will be. Here’s to me being wrong!

This has been talked about way before Perryman was chased as a FA.

It will be the standard contract extension in signed one year before the comes out of contract end of 2026.

I'm willing to hold a bet and revisit that it won't be anywhere near the $1m p.a. you've been sprouting.

Happy to have a slab on it! Colin Young isn’t known for ****ing spiders

 

[thommo_legend]

Wrighty fall out with someone in the Pies, seems to be a lot of chat about him starting up elsewhere. Thought he was on sabbatical?

Tensions between Wright and chief executive Craig Kelly, a 1990 premiership teammate, were among the factors that have led to the decision to leave the club, as the Pies appear certain to seek an outsider to replace Wright, who has already been sounded by the AFL and other clubs about potential positions.

Wright away: Inside the exit of Pies footy boss

Less than 11 months after their storied premiership, Collingwood have lost one of the principal architects of that flag following the resignation of football boss and ex-premiership hero Graham Wright after a club-paid sabbatical this season.

www.theage.com.au

 

[SchuPie]

I struggle to understand how freos first pick is already better than Schultz. He could be a complete spud that we'd be waiting 3 years until he becomes a regular contributor

Doesn’t matter who they pick, it has no impact on who we may have selected - we’ll never know

 

[anshell]

Just when I thought the hatred couldn't deepen any further.

I would be horrified if Wright went to Carlton as CEO.There must have been a major falling out at Collingwood for him to even consider taking a job there.

 

[SchuPie]

If other clubs are interested this could throw a spanner in the works should he decide to leave

If he leaves, I hope his price shoots through the roof

 

[RGpies]

While there may have been conflict with Kelly. If he is applying for a CEO role this is also in line with Wright wanting more responsibility/promotion from a footy boss perspective. If he takes up Footy boss with Adelaide and only takes a side ways career move, this highlights more of an issue with the Wright/Kelly conflict IMO.

 

[Scodog10]

I don't know with GC and they've always struggled to recruit and retain so salary cap space for them is a bit of a different scenario, at least until they're a respected team. But assume they'll bet ton what they've got and will continue to get coming through to provide the top end - and they probably can't attract it any other way.

I'm just not convinced they'll overpay for Noble. Rioli is their high priority. Is Noble a high priority too? A back up? Something they think would be nice but not willing to pay a bomb for if they have Rioli already? My view is that a high price for Rioli helps Richmond and not us as it means that they might place less value on Noble and could shift their value towards future points for matching. I hope it plays out with him getting us a big return, but it's a guess. Our best chance of getting a good return could be to get it done early, because the price may drop after Rioli is over the line. If Richmond are being ridiculous GC might be best off getting the Noble deal done and then pretending to walk away from Rioli to get Richmond to play ball.

Last night’s B&F shifted the dynamic on Rioli. Our B&F is Friday? If so I’d like to revisit the discussion after that. For now though I agree with your take, but I suspect our B&F will make pick 25-7 (or whatever 20 ends at) seem untenable.

 

[Ugene41]

My guess is it’ll start with a 1. No idea what the second number will be. Here’s to me being wrong!

Happy to have a slab on it! Colin Young isn’t known for ****ing spiders

Yep let's bookmark and come back when the new contract extension is signed end of 2025

 

[Obese Arachnid]

With Robbo gone, someone has to take the mantle of perpetually pissed clown

I'm pissed off I missed out.

The old I'm over qualified excuse was given again.

 

[stormskye]

This is the trade thread. Let’s leave wright discussions elsewhere

 

[Scodog10]

Yep let's bookmark and come back when the new contract extension is signed end of 2025

I hope we’re discussing the result around then. Unfortunately though this one will be sorted first half of 2025…

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

My guess is it’ll start with a 1. No idea what the second number will be. Here’s to me being wrong!

Happy to have a slab on it! Colin Young isn’t known for ****ing spiders

Colin Young isn't his manager anymore. He's switched to Mac Sports.

 

[Bianconeri]

I’m all for allowing the right players to leave at the right time ala Noble this year, but I’m not convinced IQ is the one. If he doesn’t take the next step in 2025 this debate changes and McReery is the other.

Without a Perryman style deal it makes it a lot harder to pick them off as you’ve suggested. Take Geelong as the example because they manage their cap better than anyone and they would never offer this type of money for a Perryman level of player. When was the last time they lost one that didn’t want to go home?

I’m probably underestimating Quaynor’s ability to get his attacking game going in 2025 and overestimating Parker and HDM’s potential but I see the small defender role as a good position for a development player whilst Maynard is around.

But I’m starting to come around to your pov on the Perryman contract. My concern is now we sign Perryman on that contract and he then goes onto have a middling season on the wing and half back whilst our midfield remains the same and that allows others to think they’re worth more money.

The only way I’d be comfortable with that offer is if we intend on using him as full time first possession on baller that unlocks Nick Daicos but I’m unsure whether Fly will commit to that and whether Perryman even has that capability.

 

[Scodog10]

Colin Young isn't his manager anymore. He's switched to Mac Sports.

McConville is definitely better for us than Young! Hopefully that translates to the end result, but I won’t be holding my breath…

 

[bunter]

why did he leave?