List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[asongofnightsandliars]

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we're being bent over for Houston.

He's not a Petracca or Cripps or Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

, he won't be the defining factor in us going up the ladder.

Giving up Noble, Richards, a future 1st rounder and pick 36 for Houston and Pick 50-****ing-8.

Hine has done it again, we have not seen enough return on this trade and have 3 draft selections in the 50s

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[Apex36]

Nope

He was a pick in the 40s. 44

Our picks in the 50’s will turn in to picks in the 40’s after bid matching.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Knew it was too good to be true.

So instead of getting pick 23, we are giving away pick 36, our highest pick.

So essentially a 28 years old Houston for:

• future first
• pick 36
• noble (worth 25)
• richards (worth 40)

Almost feels overs after being happy with the initial reports.

More shattering because a top 25 pick in this years draft almost guaranteed us to get one of whitlocks/shannahan, allowing us to finally get a young quality kkp, pretty much giving us a cheat code to get a quality player without a high first round pick.

Haply to get Dan but abit annoyed on the end.

In the end, all goes back to getting shafted in the Schultz deal. That pick 10 would have been worth gold this year and pretty much got Houston on its own.

Definitely overs with the 36 thrown in. But we get pick 50 or so back in return

But who cares. Pay overs to get quality and give away some mid tier players .

 

[Mkcaptain]

Nope

He was a pick in the 40s. 44

I was assuming they meant numerically above. If they meant earlier than 35, then the answer is clearly Nick with it being too early to tell about Ed and Demattia

 

[cfc19902010]

Hahahaha

the only hole is the one that many journos need to go hide in .


S eriously
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N etwork

 

[swoop42]

At the end of the day would you prefer to wake up tomorrow with the knowledge Houston is ours or that we gave up the opportunity to get him due to the squabbling over pick 36?

Besides I kind of get a giggle out of Leppa ever thinking we could hold 23 after any deal for Houston.

We couldn't even get that bloody pick out of them! LOL.

He surely knew that (retaining 23) was never anything more than a ambit claim.

 

[Apex36]

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we're being bent over for Houston.

He's not a Petracca or Cripps or Jeremy Cameron, he won't be the defining factor in us going up the ladder.

Giving up Noble, Richards, a future 1st rounder and pick 36 for Houston and Pick 50-****ing-8.

Hine has done it again, we have not seen enough return on this trade and have 3 draft selections in the 50s

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Go back to reddit and stop blaming Hine for something he has nothing to do with.

 

[Rusty Beam]

From HS top 60

41. Kayle Gerryn - 199cm fwd/ruck
42. Adrian Cole - 194cm def (St Kilda NGA)
43. Tom Sims - 199cm fwd/ruck
44. Charlie Nicholls - 197cm fwd/def
45. Floyd Burmeister - 199cm ruck/fwd
46. Nathaniel Sulzberger - 187cm fwd/mid
47. Xavier Ivisic - 180cm fwd/mid
48. Joel Cochran - 194cm def (Sydney Academy)
49. Josh Dolan - 177cm fwd/mid5
50. Clancy Dennis - 195cm def
51. Lennox Hofmann - 190cm def (St Kilda NGA)
52. Lucas Camporeale - 184cm mid/def
53. Jasper Alger - 183cm fwd
54. Bailey Mckenzie - 191cm fwd
55. Riley Bice - 185cm def (mature ager)5
6. Malakai Champion - 172cm fwd (Eagles NGA)
57. Tyler Welsh - 191cm fwd (Adelaide F/S)
58. Sam Davidson - 191cm fwd (mature ager)
59. Sam Toner - 186cm fwd
60. Gabriel Stumpf - 196cm key fwd

Tom Sims is the one. Rate him really highly.

 

[Silky23]

Our 23-29 age group will now stand at

Beau - 23
Bobby, IQ - 24
Perryman, Jaicos - 25
Schultz, Lipinski - 26
Houston - 27
Maynard, JDG, Moore -28
DC, McStay - 29

Add in Nick at 21, Allan at 20, Harrison at 20 plus McGuane next year

That's 14 of our best players in the perfect age bracket, plus Allan and McGuane who we are super excited about, and our older guys

Crisp, Titch, Mihocek, Elliott (32) who are all 31

21 guys who should be with us for at least the next 3-5 years, and untried guys like Jiath and Demattia at 19, am I one of the only ones who think we are in a REALLY good spot moving forward? With opening $ space, no reason we can't top up and try poach guys like LDU/Trac and potentially some KPP depth.

 

[Basil brush]

Yes, but we are two years older. This will be our last year to contend then we will disappear I reckon

Disappear where? Maybe we lose Sidey, Pendles, Elliott, Michell, Howe and Cox over next 2 seasons. I may have missed someone but I believe our list is not completely falling off a cliff with some smart acquisitions like Houston, Perryman and even Schultz (I know...). Key position depth is a slight worry.

 

[gouki88]

Houston is an upgrade on Noble in the same way Jolly was an upgrade on Fraser.

I don’t even think this captures the gulf between them to be honest.

 

[stormskye]

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we're being bent over for Houston.

He's not a Petracca or Cripps or Jeremy Cameron, he won't be the defining factor in us going up the ladder.

Giving up Noble, Richards, a future 1st rounder and pick 36 for Houston and Pick 50-****ing-8.

Hine has done it again, we have not seen enough return on this trade and have 3 draft selections in the 50s

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He’s worth two first rounders. You need to start watching footy.

Watch Brisbane this year? And Zorko? Transition from defence wins flags. He’s a better ball user than daicos.

 

[cfc19902010]

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we're being bent over for Houston.

He's not a Petracca or Cripps or Jeremy Cameron, he won't be the defining factor in us going up the ladder.

Giving up Noble, Richards, a future 1st rounder and pick 36 for Houston and Pick 50-****ing-8.

Hine has done it again, we have not seen enough return on this trade and have 3 draft selections in the 50s

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Graham wright would have given them 12, 14 curnow Cripps and wetering if he’d been let loose earlier

 

[celestial]

I think he writes those stupid trade scenarios in crayon. If it weren’t for that Brownlow he’d be irrelevant

One could argue that one of the crayons that he uses to come up with his trade suggestions has found its way into his frontal lobe.
Think I found his x-ray

 

[mumblingpie]

He did ask to be traded.

Wouldn’t you if you played every game then got shafted come gf time

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I was assuming they meant numerically above. If they meant earlier than 35, then the answer is clearly Nick with it being too early to tell about Ed and Demattia

Oh sorry

In the end, Hine would have wasted picks better than 36 anyway

His specialty is at the level of picks we have. I feel far more comfortable trusting Hine with Pick 58 than I do Pick 13

 

[No SPIN]

Personally I’d rather the Cats approach though.

Getting players like Bruhn, Henry, Smith etc at the start of their careers, once they have proven themselves at the level, rather than the end.

What about Smith, Tuohy, Ottens, Cameron Stengle, Dangerfield who are just a few of many that don’t fit your theory.

 

[Bramax]

Yep
Hefty price to pay for a bloke who is basically an upgrade on John Noble

Yep
Hefty price to pay for an AA gun player who is a massive upgrade on John Noble.
(Fixed it for you).

 

[Horaceg]

the only hole is the one that many journos need to go hide in .


S eriously
E mbarassing
N etwork

There’s one between Cooneys ears, it’s big

 

[Piesinfront]

Lol at the melts over pick 36, its pick 36!

Exactly ......history tells that about half the picks in the 30's are in longer in the afl system in 3-4 years

 

[Exambolor]

In 3 years there will still be young talent from GC and GWS to raid as they can’t pay them all.
Trading is becoming arguably better than the draft to build your team and it’s only going to increase.
By the time Tassie’s talent are all looking to come home, like GWS players especially, we will all benefit again.

And in saying that it didn’t exactly propel the Suns and Giants into instant winners. It took nearly five years before GWS were pretty good.

And look at North for example, literally being HANDED first rounders and they’re still planted at the bottom of the ladder.

Essendon as well, also had multiple top 10s and most have been role players or list cloggers

Take their 2020 draft, three consecutive Top 10 picks and all of them meh. Reid was injured, Cox is a role player at most, Perkins has regressed. Even Tsatas and Hobbs can’t get a game.

 

[gouki88]

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks we're being bent over for Houston.

He's not a Petracca or Cripps or Jeremy Cameron, he won't be the defining factor in us going up the ladder.

Giving up Noble, Richards, a future 1st rounder and pick 36 for Houston and Pick 50-****ing-8.

Hine has done it again, we have not seen enough return on this trade and have 3 draft selections in the 50s

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You probably aren’t the only one, but it’s not a very sensible group you’re aligning with

 

[Silky23]

I don’t even think this captures the gulf between them to be honest.

Houston to JFN is like comparing a Ferrari to a Holden Commodore.

 

[manicpie]

I work in a prison, he was an inmate

Not ravenhall, we may have crossed paths

 

[sr36]

Yes, but we are two years older. This will be our last year to contend then we will disappear I reckon

Disagree. This move keeps us in it in 2025-27

We haven't just replaced 2023 Pendles and Sidey, we've just upgraded them.

And it's not just WHE and Checkers getting two years older. It's also Nick, Hill, McCreery, Josh, IQ.

We're going to need to poach a forward soon with our two best in Elliott and Checkers getting on. But Im not sure why people think we wont be able to.