List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

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If we pinch a flag next year, with the oldest list - fantastic. Mission accomplished! But we face massive decisions in 2026. How many retirements? probably at least 5. Going to be tough but maybe 2/3 years finishing in the bottom 4 will benefit us longer term in terms of salary cap space; draft credit (tough with Tassie coming in) if this happens, it's so important we remain a highly professional club to also remain a destination for key trade targets. I think Hawthorn have set the bar for this situation.
 

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And Hobart is about to open a golf course at Seven Mile Beach - which from all reports will be a proper, world class Links course!

Wow, looks awesome.

Always stayed in Launceston when playing at Barnbougle....will have to maybe slot in Hobart now and give it a crack.
 
I was one of them. Never sober enough to be of any use to anyone.
I shared a house once with an airline hostess (bit straight laced) - I think she felt there were shenanigans going on after yachts arrived
 
Noah Cumberland (Richmond)


“Collingwood reached out months ago, but that hasn't really progressed any further.


“He's been told to wait until the end of the trade period (by Richmond) and I’d be surprised if he wasn’t on an AFL list next year, but there’s no certainty from the Tigers at this point.”

 
And Hobart is about to open a golf course at Seven Mile Beach - which from all reports will be a proper, world class Links course!

Is the links course thing in Australia just a prestige thing or do some people actually prefer playing Links courses?
 
Noah Cumberland (Richmond)


“Collingwood reached out months ago, but that hasn't really progressed any further.


“He's been told to wait until the end of the trade period (by Richmond) and I’d be surprised if he wasn’t on an AFL list next year, but there’s no certainty from the Tigers at this point.”

He is a spud of epic proportions
 
Is the links course thing in Australia just a prestige thing or do some people actually prefer playing Links courses?
Have you played sandbelt courses? Did you like? Because, whilst they are not Links courses, they invite the same style of play.

I will refrain from the Massive Thread Derailment your very offensive question truly demands!
 
Noah Cumberland (Richmond)


“Collingwood reached out months ago, but that hasn't really progressed any further.


“He's been told to wait until the end of the trade period (by Richmond) and I’d be surprised if he wasn’t on an AFL list next year, but there’s no certainty from the Tigers at this point.”

Probably half the player Fasolo was, and there was no place for him in modern football 6 years ago let alone now
 
I agree that a redeveloped Blundstone seems a better choice. Also closer to the airport.

But the argument for the new stadium - setting aside the cost which admittedly is hard to set aside - is that it will be walking distance to the Hobart CBD, and part of a precinct which the state government wants to regenerate, with benefits to local businesses etc. So while it will cost the earth, there are expected to be related economic benefits which go beyond the initial employment benefit

I’m sure one of our resident Big Footy Van Demonians will set me straight on this.

But I’m not an apologist for the new stadium. Why not upgrade Blundstone and let the new club settle in and develop, before committing $ to the new stadium?

The roof is a furphy.
As a Hobart local, I feel I’m in a good place to comment. Blundstone is a terrible facility in the middle of a residential suburb. The local community are were intensely opposed to the installation of light towers, as it may disturb their enjoyment of the area. This opposition delayed the installation for years. Whenever there is game at Blundstone (AFL or Big Bash) there is horrific and immovable traffic because the road infrastructure can’t handle anything above residential loads.

I am as budget conscious as the next person but I believe the only way the Tasmanian team will be a success is with a new stadium in the CBD area.
 

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As a Hobart local, I feel I’m in a good place to comment. Blundstone is a terrible facility in the middle of a residential suburb. The local community are were intensely opposed to the installation of light towers, as it may disturb their enjoyment of the area. This opposition delayed the installation for years. Whenever there is game at Blundstone (AFL or Big Bash) there is horrific and immovable traffic because the road infrastructure can’t handle anything above residential loads.

I am as budget conscious as the next person but I believe the only way the Tasmanian team will be a success is with a new stadium in the CBD area.
200% true
 
Have you played sandbelt courses? Did you like? Because, whilst they are not Links courses, they invite the same style of play.

I will refrain from the Massive Thread Derailment your very offensive question truly demands!
Fair enough - barren and windswept are your kind of words.

If you're a links enthusiast, the way I see it, you're either a pro standard shot shaping wizard or an old bloke who bunts shitty low balls 150 metres straight up the fairway. I've now got you pegged as the latter.

Tassie is probably the right place to host a wonderland for old bunters - Adelaide could do with one too - perhaps they would be better off placing some decent hospitals beside it though for the old bunters rather than a roofed stadium.
 
A thing a lot of people don't realise about Hobart, is that it is in a rain shadow because of the mountains to the west.
Average temperatures during the footy season are only a little cooler than Melbourne, and the average rainfall is similar.
It underlines your point about a roof - why not just light towers at Blundstone?
Well the light towers are already there.
 
Pro sport creates jobs and high amounts of revenue. That high revenue is then taxed by the government. The more high revenue ventures that can be funded, the more revenue can be created, the more taxes can then be obtained. Those extra taxes can then be allocated towards “important” things like medical/hospitals etc.

There’s obviously more complicated layers to it, but it’s not that hard to understand the basic economics as to why these sort of projects are actually important enough to get funding instead of just saying “mAjOrItY RuLeS tHeY CaN **** OfF”.
The thing with trickle down economics is that if the trickles always get diverted to things that produce trickles, you end up with puddles in one area of the garden where mosquitoes breed, and a barren desert elsewhere.
 
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Can someone make up some trade news. I’ll take anything at this point
I'm afraid that is all that might be on offer at the moment. I put it down to the penalty for missing the finals, and read the rubbish like everyone else. It makes for a dreary couple of months.
 
NATHAN KREUGER

A regular topic of discussion on Collingwood’s out-of-contract players of late has been Nathan Kreuger, who after 13 games in three years at the Magpies officially has his future in the air.

And while the Pies are still yet to offer the 196cm big man a contract beyond 2024, Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph believes they black and white would be silly to not keep him in their colours.

“(He’s) from Geelong, has gone to Collingwood, he played a really good month of football there and then got concussed – and then Dan McStay came back (from injury) and took his spot in that side,” Ralph said.

“He can play as a ruck and forward, predominantly forward – which is very rare in the AFL fraternity – he has got suitors out there, Collingwood (are) still considering whether to give him an offer.


“If I was Collingwood, I would get him quick smart, because there’s not a lot of players that play forward and then chop out in the ruck. Snap him up Collingwood, or someone else will.”

“We’re talking forwards; he also played his first game in the AFL as a key defender, so he can play anywhere on the field you need him,” colleague Josh Barnes added.

Kreuger’s best performance this season came in the Magpies’ King’s Birthday clash where he kicked three goals from 11 disposals.

MATT OWIES

Certainly, one of the more baffling out-of-contract players at this stage of the season is Owies, who played all 23 home-and-away games this season for his 33 goals.

And while he was the sub twice and subbed as many times, the 179cm crafty forward has been integral in providing the Blues at least a shot at the 2024 premiership.


A former Category B rookie, there is no doubt that should Carlton not offer Owies a suitable deal, there will be clubs lining up for his services.

“Before his (Round 24) suspension, he was one of the few players that had played every game this year for the Blues – that’s no mean feat at Princes Park given the injuries,” Barnes explained.

“I can’t believe he doesn’t have a contract yet … he has to be getting a strong deal, and if he’s not, surely there are suitors lining up.”

“He ticks a lot of boxes … you snap him up as a bargain, and he kicks you 30 goals a season!”

Owies will miss this Saturday night’s elimination final against Brisbane through suspension, but is expected to slot straight back into the side should they win up at the Gabba.

JACK MARTIN

The teammate of Owies has unfortunately had nowhere near as much luck at getting on the park this season, playing just three out of 23 games this season for Carlton.

And coming to the end of his five-dear deal at Ikon Park, the 29-year-old could be squeezed out amid the Blues’ salary cap squeeze and his injury woes.

“I think we get seduced by talent; he’s played three AFL games this year (and) he’s broke down (with injury) in two of them,” Ralph said.

“I don’t think the offer will be fore coming at Carlton, but there’s clubs like Fremantle and West Coast … you can tuck him away, he’s your 43rd spot on a list; it may be that he never plays AFL again, but if you can get him for six, or eight or 10 games when the whips are cracking next year, he could just win you a final.

“He’s hard, he kicks goals, he’s silky – he’s a triple threat.”


Barnes agreed that while Martin’s best would be invaluable to any club, his history on the sidelines would need to be considered deeply by anyone looking to pick him up.

“He’s just so enticing Jack Martin … he kicked 24 goals in 2017, that was the last time he played more than 16 games,” Barnes added.

TIM MEMBREY

After a dozen years in the system, Saints tall Tim Membrey could be on the move to a third club – still with plenty to give in front of the big sticks.

His 2024 season produced 30 goals from 19 games, including a five-goal haul from 23 disposals only weeks ago in Round 19 against West Coast.

Despite this, he may be best suited to move out of Moorabbin with plenty still to unfold for Ross Lyon’s list management this off-season; despite five delistings and a free agency request.


“He wants to know that he’s very much in St Kilda’s plans, and the feel from St Kilda is: ‘We don’t mind if you look around’,” Ralph revealed.

“As soon as you hear that, (you think) ‘they don’t love me, and so I’ll find a club that will’.

“Clubs out there like North Melbourne are keen, (as are) Melbourne and Collingwood. I still think he’s got a really significant role at St Kilda with Cooper Sharman and the returning Max King.

“Tim always seems to be that reliable, mainstay forward … he can help be that back-up for Max King,” Midweek Tackle host Lauren Wood added.

After two years at Sydney across 2013 and 2014, Membrey has since been a staple in the Saints’ side – at times also deployed down back.
SAM DAY

One of very few inaugural Gold Coast Suns left in the AFL system, key forward Sam Day would be extremely unlucky if he doesn’t find himself a new home in 2025.

And while injuries have plagued an impressive 115-game carer to date, the 31-year-old showed at times in 2024 he can still cause major headaches for opposition defenders.

“He’s had so many horrific injuries … he just keeps coming back in – and you know what he is, he’s reliable,” Ralph stated.

“He hasn’t been officially delisted, so you wait until then … he’s an insurance pick, but he’s a player if you get three or four key injuries you know you can rely on him. You put him on your rookie list … I think he’s a smart acquisition.”

The Suns earlier today announced six delistings, with Day not one of them – making for an interesting next few weeks around his future.


Day kicked 10 goals from five games this season before a plantar fascia issue in his foot ruled him out for the remainder of his Round 17 game against North Melbourne – the same match he clunked a staggering six contested marks, with two goals 11 disposals to go alongside it.

ASH JOHNSON

The Magpies’ 2021 Mid-Season Draft pick-up has proven himself a burst of life in Collingwood’s forward line in recent years, standing up in particular during his side’s frantic flag run during the 2022 finals series in both their qualifying and semi-finals.

His season last year was also notably strong, before a hairline fracture in his arm sidelined him from partaking in their eventual premiership.

Since his fracture, the 27-year-old hasn’t quite been the same – but perhaps another club could help him get back to his best, as he struggled to find consistent game time in the senior side this year.

“As a restoration, I think he’s as exciting as anyone in the competition at his best,” Ralph noted.


“We all know how great he can be, we all know he’s got spectacular hands, we all know he’s really pacy.

“Someone (needs) to give him a tap on the head, a rub on the back and say: ‘We believe in you, and we believe you can lift’.

“If it was me, I’d be trying to pluck Ask Johnson out of Collingwood.”

The medium-sized forward has kicked 36 goals in 27 games since coming to the club, and would be well suited to several other Victorian rivals – if not, to either Western Australia or South Australia where he grew up and previously lived.

REEF MCINNES

After 20 games at Collingwood in four seasons, rival clubs may be swooping the Magpies themselves for Reef McInnes, who arguably would like to have had a greater impact since being taken at Pick 23 in the 2020 National Draft.


“He’s one of those first-round draft picks from 2020 that Collingwood just haven’t got going,” Barnes said.

“I’m not sure where he fits at the moment; he probably just hasn’t shown enough to be a target in the air or on the ground.”

His two three-goal hauls against St Kilda and West Coast respectively this season was reason for Magpies fans to be hopeful, however he was also the substitute in three of his nine games this season – suggesting he perhaps may struggle to retain his place in the side in a period of full health.

The Pies would be inclined to hang onto him if he wishes to stay put, but if the right offer comes about elsewhere, he could well be on the move.


 
Fair enough - barren and windswept are your kind of words.

If you're a links enthusiast, the way I see it, you're either a pro standard shot shaping wizard or an old bloke who bunts shitty low balls 150 metres straight up the fairway. I've now got you pegged as the latter.

Tassie is probably the right place to host a wonderland for old bunters - perhaps they would be better off placing some decent hospitals beside it though rather than a roofed stadium.
Your words peg you as someone whose mind has been broken by unimaginative target golf played in Asia on broadleaf grasses.
 

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