List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[cfc19902010]

I don't think is a true representation. In the last few years they've basically given away Krueger, Fort, Cockatoo and McCarthy. Even in the Henry trade they let go Cooper Stephens, who was pick 16 three years earlier.

They stitched up west coast for Kelly also

 

[What is a cakewalk]

That's a question that the Cats are asking. Seems like he's lost a lot of confidence as a fullback after his facial fracture last year and struggled at times this year - they gave him a run in the ruck and he was badly beaten by his brother. Had Knee issues late in the year and he couldn't win back a spot even after regaining fitness in the VFL - I'd be cautious on him, could be a bust.

Big red flag to me if geelong are looking to get rid of him.

 

[cfc19902010]

Absolutely. Holding grudges holds you back. Jimmy is a nice guy too

Thanks

 

[Apex36]

They would be absolutely stark raving mad not to be trying to move him on. He's derailed a couple of seasons, caused a massive review and was the impetus for Petracca wanting out, which led to the Roffey debacle.

Dunno, I think they’ll be well aware that Trac will be requesting a trade again in 2025 and if they trade Oliver now that’s their two best mids gone in 2 years, as well as (probably) Gawn retired.
Not many clubs can bounce back quickly from losing that amount of quality in such a short amount of time.

 

[JuniorB]

Agree. Carlton are the exception. Never want any of their ex anything's at our club.

Never forget. Never forgive.

Brendon Bolton?

 

[Hardas]

Would oppo clubs that have missed out on an important recruit possibly exaggerate numbers to the media for the audience of their supporter base or existing players?

Thus, making it look like to their 'decision' made them the more reasonable decision-makers when in fact they just weren't successful?

Must happen, surely.

(Apologies, if already raised).

 

[Apex36]

Big red flag to me if geelong are looking to get rid of him.

They’re not actively looking to get rid of him, but if push comes to shove and it means that they can land both Smith and Oliver they’d be hard pressed not to look at it as an option.

 

[JuniorB]

I don't think is a true representation. In the last few years they've basically given away Krueger, Fort, Cockatoo and McCarthy. Even in the Henry trade they let go Cooper Stephens, who was pick 16 three years earlier.

The same Cooper Stephens who's been delisted by Hawthorn.

 

[Pistol Night]

They’re not actively looking to get rid of him, but if push comes to shove and it means that they can land both Smith and Oliver they’d be hard pressed not to look at it as an option.

Hes still young and you dont lose ability

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Therein lies my point. Those initial reports were low and the inflated figures more accurate based on what we now know. If I were to guess the low amounts were in the earlier stages of negotiations and then McStay’s management squeezed further $’s out of us as things reached their conclusion.

Oh riiiight. So those ones were low…ok

Yeah let’s just agree to disagree

 

[satanshoof101]

Nah, former 1st round pick not getting a game.

Pick 38 sounds about right hey Mackie

Hahaha future 3rd and Jack Bytel

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I like this move. The query for me is whether Bartel is prepared to give up the media? He’s got a few side gigs and you can get away with it as a board member, but not FD staff.

Unfortunately listening to what's actually said makes it sound like the Dees are quite a bit ahead of us in that race.

 

[Moore of the Same]

Look at his stats for the last five weeks of the H&A when he was in a full time mid. His overall numbers are a bit misleading as he was played as a sub and a HFF/Tagger.

Here is an article about his rise.

Numbers are very good the last 6 weeks,

He got midfield opportunities and started to play well.

The thing that stood out was how well he found clearences.

Thanks for this! I'll go back and have a little look at his end of season form.

 

[cfc19902010]

Yep. Look forward not backwards. Unless it’s Carlolton then we’ll always laugh and mock their shitness.

Geelong aren’t that far from Carlton imo

 

[Jasper84]

They stitched up west coast for Kelly also

The Kelly trade is great example of how we overrate mid to late first round picks. WC gave up picks 14,13,24 and 33. On paper it sounds massive. In reality it's Conor Stone, Cooper Stephens, Jeremy Sharpe and Nick Bryan.

Kelly has played more games for WC than all of them combined and won a B&F.

 

[Harry O]

Would oppo clubs that have missed out on an important recruit possibly exaggerate numbers to the media for the audience of their supporter base or existing players?

Thus, making it look like to their 'decision' made them the more reasonable decision-makers when in fact they just weren't successful?

Must happen, surely.

(Apologies, if already raised).

And Cornes will inflate the salary so he can criticise Perryman for next 6 years

 

[Fat Jesus]

The Kelly trade is great example of how we overrate mid to late first round picks. WC gave up picks 14,13,24 and 33. On paper it sounds massive. In reality it's Conor Stone, Cooper Stephens, Jeremy Sharpe and Nick Bryan.

Kelly has played more games for WC than all of them combined and won a B&F.

Amazing isn't it? Bloody lottery mate.
It's why I'm rapt to get Schultz

 

[cfc19902010]

The Kelly trade is great example of how we overrate mid to late first round picks. WC gave up picks 14,13,24 and 33. On paper it sounds massive. In reality it's Conor Stone, Cooper Stephens, Jeremy Sharpe and Nick Bryan.

Kelly has played more games for WC than all of them combined and won a B&& in

The point is Geelong are pricks to deal with IMO

 

[Jen2310]

PIE STILL TOSSING UP OPTIONS​

COLLINGWOOD and Port Adelaide are still waiting on a decision from Joe Richards as the small forward weighs up offers from both clubs.


Richards has met with the Power as he ponders a three-year deal to move to the South Australian club, while he is also considering a similar offer to remain at the Pies for 2025 and beyond.


Alongside Giants midfielder James Peatling, who is assessing significant interest from as many as six clubs, Richards is now one of the last players still to decide on their future ahead of the Trade Period starting on Monday.

The 24-year-old enjoyed a breakthrough year at Collingwood this season, playing his first nine games of senior football before a series of injuries hampered his progress in the back half of the campaign.


Port Adelaide has emerged as the main rival for his signature and could redouble its efforts to lure Richards having missed out on free agency targets Isaac Cumming and Harry Perryman to Adelaide and Collingwood respectively in recent days.

 

[TradeDraft]

Will Fin be more wanting to leave now after getting Perryman?

 

[Mick F]

The point is Geelong are pricks to deal with IMO

Most people don’t have the inclination and time to care for family, friends and work colleagues - don’t be wasting time on people you don’t respect, will never meet and have zero impact on your life.

 

[Matt_352]

Will Fin be more wanting to leave now after getting Perryman?

Definitely think he'd be a chance to be delisted if we pick up Peatling or another mid

 

[Jen2310]

GIANTS SWEAT ON COMPO CALL​

COLLINGWOOD's move for Harry Perryman will come close to being the biggest free agency deal made this off-season, triggering hopes at Greater Western Sydney that it could earn the club Band 1 compensation.


There had been a feeling among the clubs involved in the Perryman chase that Collingwood's offer was either on par or even larger than Hawthorn's move for St Kilda free agent Josh Battle.


As revealed by AFL.com.au on Tuesday morning, Perryman chose to take up the Magpies offer despite significant interest from Port Adelaide and the option of staying at the Giants on a long-term deal.


Collingwood's offer for Perryman extends six years, ensuring the defender's future at his boyhood club until at least 2030, with a thought it could need to exceed $900,000 per year to earn the Giants first-round compensation.

What aids the Giants' cause is that Perryman is a young free agent, given his December 19 birthday, and he won't turn 26 until later this year. A similar situation occurred last year with Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

, who was also 25 when he left North Melbourne for Essendon as a free agent, netted the Kangas Band 1 compensation.


The difference between Band 1 and Band 2 compensation for the Giants currently stands at pick No.15 or No.19, pending an AFL outcome likely to arrive over the weekend, but could have significant ramifications throughout the Trade Period.


Fremantle's No.16 selection, which is likely to be tossed up in a trade for contracted Richmond midfielder Shai Bolton, is at risk of falling further down the order if Band 1 compensation for Perryman is triggered.


Brisbane's No.18 pick could also be impacted, with a host of clubs already in talks with the Lions over trading for that selection given it will almost certainly be eaten up by an early bid on father-son gun Levi Ashcroft.

 

[Jasper84]

The point is Geelong are pricks to deal with IMO

But not really. They also let Jordan Clarke (15) go for pick 22.

 

[Jen2310]

Definitely think he'd be a chance to be delisted if we pick up Peatling or another mid

He's contracted so wont be delisted.