List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Pleasedontfail11]

Melbourne should be targeting a draft bounty that is just shy of the Cameron package, even if it means they have to carry a greater portion of his salary on their books.

The Cameron package wasn't great when you look at it.

 

[Seedsfan]

Be careful for what you wish for. Smith is an astute pick up. Oliver very risky but he’s a top 5 mid in the comp at his best

They are both very risky.

 

[Apex36]

Geelong is perfect for him, look how quickly the Stengle stuff went away. At the pies the attention on him would be huge, dont see it working out well.

Ridiculous that he could go out on a bender, be hospitalised, then get selected to play the next week and nobody says boo about it…

 

[Exambolor]

The Cameron package wasn't great when you look at it.

I mean when they got a flag out of it I’d call it a success

 

[celestial]

Ah yes, the toxic, drug-addled, wall-kicking turnover merchant that was Jeremy Cameron. It’s definitely the same scenario playing out again in front of our eyes.

How much of the first part do you want to put it on Melbourne's culture ? Say whatever you want about his off field issues, he has still contributed at a fair level on field . Can't overlook his b&f winning seasons and the quality of his play back when the club was somewhat settled.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I mean when they got a flag out of it I’d call it a success

You mean to tell me when we traded pick 2, Treloar and Stephenson for Oliver Henry, Poulter and McMahon. That was a success?

 

[celestial]

The Cameron package wasn't great when you look at it.

Would imagine three first round picks be a decent return.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Would imagine three first round picks be a decent return.

You didn't look at it properly.
In total it adds up to about pick 12. I'm not talking points either.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

How much of the first part do you want to put it on Melbourne's culture ? Say whatever you want about his off field issues, he has still contributed at a fair level on field . Can't overlook his b&f winning seasons and the quality of his play back when the club was somewhat settled.

Everything you’re saying could also have been said about Dayne Beams.

It certainly appears the club has decided Melbourne’s culture is the effect and Oliver is the cause. Joel Smith’s career is hanging by a thread too for the same reason.

 

[sideswipe]

Everything you’re saying could also have been said about Dayne Beams.

It certainly appears the club has decided Melbourne’s culture is the effect and Oliver is the cause. Joel Smith’s career is hanging by a thread too for the same reason.

With Oliver apparently saying he wants to be traded to the Cats, the whole thing has become a real mess. It'll make for a fun trade week.

 

[Jen2310]

Melbourne can just as easily turn around and say they will hold onto Oliver because the trade compensation was no where near what they wanted. They are all adults, they will sit down and work out a plan to coexist next year. Whatever happens after that , happens. Poor list management decisions like trading your greatest trade asset for a single pick will cost careers. Fremantle with the draft capital can potentially sell Oliver the opportunity of not being in the Melbourne fishbowl. So Melbourne don't have to trade him to geelong, if they can get other clubs to convince Oliver to select them.

And Geelong will be like, you are pushing him, not the other way around.

 

[Harry O]

I have been against Tomlinson all along but starting to come around that he might be a reasonable free agent option while we draft a few young talls who won’t be ready for a few years

 

[Apex36]

Everything you’re saying could also have been said about Dayne Beams.

It certainly appears the club has decided Melbourne’s culture is the effect and Oliver is the cause. Joel Smith’s career is hanging by a thread too for the same reason.

Hanging by a thread? I thought it was over, they’ve delisted him haven’t they?

 

[cfc19902010]

And typical Geelong w***ers think they have the cure for cancer

Life was better when they had their handbags

 

[HFF]

They’re pushing Oliver out the door.
The Petracca stuff has finally gotten through and they are making change.
Their patience has run out.
They will be paying a significant amount of his contract to boot…a lot more than what we contributed for Grundy based on the figures he is on.

Interesting to see how this one plays out.

 

[cfc19902010]

I hope it isn't. What's he ever done besides running, chasing, groundball gets, contested posessions, score assists, marking,
kicking goals and ruck assists.

JUH is the weakest link of their 3 talls
That elimination final effort was shameful
I’d rather Naughton even tho JUH has more ability

 

[gtrain23]

has De konig nominated us yet?
Asking for a friend

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

And typical Geelong w***ers think they have the cure for cancer

They apparently have the cure for a salary cap.

 

[loki04]

He wouldn’t be on a big contract, why aren’t they retaining him. As has been noted, no guarantee 3rd round draft picks or SSPs will be any better.

Too many same types at Carlton.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Would imagine three first round picks be a decent return.

I just looked it up. Those 3 1st rounders ended up being picks 15, 18, 25*and a 4th

They got back 2 future 2nd picks that ended up being 24 and 25 (think this is right).

* this one doesn't look right but it is close to this. I got this from an article.

So in the end the Cameron trade lost them pick 15 and down graded 2 picks by half a dozen places. Oh and a 4th rounder. In the end it was a bad trade. Although it looks good on paper (3 firsts).

 

[loki04]

That’s what I’m lead to believe

Bulldogs?

 

[manicpie]

JUH is the weakest link of their 3 talls
That elimination final effort was shameful
I’d rather Naughton even tho JUH has more ability

Oh boy. Really? Naughton is way overpaid

 

[loki04]

Hope Schultz and Perryman dominate next year.

A big F U to the haters.

Where are the Perryman haters or is it about the contract size?

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Wonder if Nicksy received the same treatment on the phone I did.

 

[unplugged]

I may have misunderstood but I couldn't actually find anything Jimmy Bartel said about a trade target... did anyone find it? Or was it made up?