List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade & FA 2024

[manicpie]

Given we don’t have much in the way of first rounders, I’m all in on 25/26 with Tassie coming in.

I’m talking Tex Walker 2 year deal type of thing.

I'd take Tex, why not, he's better than what we have atm.

 

[Carlthetruth]

We all knew we’d be bottoming out in the near future with our retirements. There’s no avoiding it. Was hoping we’d snag another flag before then but doesn’t look likely (unless a miracle happens this year). Can’t get your Daisys, Pendles, Beams, Sidey, Reid, Nicks, De Goeys and Browns without high draft picks. I just hope we us in the 5-8th range without being a real threat.

Listen, if anyone wants to be a cheese eating surrender monkey that's your problem. What I find remarkable is that after delivering a premiership only last year some people think the club doesn't have a plan. We won't be 'bottoming out' and will be back at the pointy end next year and still have this year to go, that's what will happen so deal with it. Kept hearing the same shyte when Fly took over and that proved to be wrong aswell.

 

[Bianconeri]

Strength ? Ginnivan was a liability. He had no urgency, diligence or focus.
Joey was off the radar with ordinary form, and a delist candidate for many.

Ginnivan wasn’t even best 22.

 

[loki04]

Essendon did B2B in 84 - 85.

The reason we failed to go B2B in 2011 was nothing to do with drafting or trading

I wasn't saying we failed to go B2B in 2011 due to draft/trading but we were in a real position to achieve it due to Drafting and then trading in to fill list weakness.

 

[loki04]

He's unrestricted.

Cheers I thought he was restricted. Well maybe a realistic target using cap space.

 

[loki04]

I'd take Tex, why not, he's better than what we have atm.

I believe he wants to stay in Adelaide but money talks.

 

[Doc1763]

I'd take Tex, why not, he's better than what we have atm.

I'd take him as far away from the AIA Centre as physically possible and leave him there

 

[manicpie]

I'd take him as far away from the AIA Centre as physically possible and leave him there

is it because he wears a 10 gallon hat

 

[Doc1763]

is it because he wears a 10 gallon hat

that's one of many reasons!!

 

[loki04]

Like I said, where were your howls of protest about this, when Grundy was winning AA’s.
Now all of a sudden it’s an issue!!
Common on Loki get real mate.

It was brought up back when he was traded about getting bent over in trades.

Not the Witts loss but the compo we recieved for him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Only way AJ stay on list be De-Listing him and draft him in Rookie Draft

 

[No SPIN]

It was brought up back when he was traded about getting bent over in trades.

Not the Witts loss but the compo we recieved for him.

But it was forgotten when Grundy was winning AA’s that’s my point.
In other words people thought the preference for Grundy was sound and that he was a far superior Ruckman.

 

[Bianconeri]

But it was forgotten when Grundy was winning AA’s that’s my point.
In other words people thought the preference for Grundy was sound and he was a far superior Ruckman.

It wasn’t forgotten though. The outcome of the Witts trade was still brought up when Grundy was winning AAs.

Especially when Shai Bolton broke out as we missed out on him because of it.

 

[WakeUpPies]

Listen, if anyone wants to be a cheese eating surrender monkey that's your problem. What I find remarkable is that after delivering a premiership only last year some people think the club doesn't have a plan. We won't be 'bottoming out' and will be back at the pointy end next year and still have this year to go, that's what will happen so deal with it. Kept hearing the same shyte when Fly took over and that proved to be wrong aswell.

How do you think we ended up with our premiership lists? By bottoming out and picking our core players with top picks. It’s delusional to think you’d win a premiership without spending time at the bottom. You don’t get to pick up the Pendles, Dale Thomas, Nick Daicos, De Goey, Sidebottom, Beams etc by finishing 9th every season.

 

[loki04]

But it was forgotten when Grundy was winning AA’s that’s my point.
In other words people thought the preference for Grundy was sound and that he was a far superior Ruckman.

It was sound. The compensation was not and people took issue with it at the time.

That's what I was commenting on.

 

[No SPIN]

It wasn’t forgotten though. The outcome of the Witts trade was still brought up when Grundy was winning AAs.

Especially when Shai Bolton broke out as we missed out on him because of it.

No one cared about Witts when Grundy was winning AA’s.
But I’m keen to see you link 5 or 6 posts at the time to prove your point.

 

[larrikan]

Im in my 60s. My first key forward I remember is Peter Mckenna, a gun full forward who got fed brilliantly by Barry Price and the Richardsons. Next was one amazing season from Phil Carman. We have had the Rocca brothers, Travis Cloke for two key seasons and Mihocek as solid good forwards. Sorry if I missed someone here.

I have never seen a superstar forward at Collingwood. We tried for Reiwoldt, Brown, Cameron and Lynch with no luck. We have burned first round draft picks for flankers and small mids. Last night Fly said Cameron cost three first round draft picks like that was a reach. Yes that's right. We blow two on good solid players.

Every CPF we recruit is a fail. I remember Billy Morrison spin as the next Jonothan Brown. I don't listen to player comparisons anymore.

Im talking 50 years of no superstar game turning forward. Apparently its not a need for us ever.

I'll admit they are hard to come by but our best recent pick Mihocek was a back man from Port Melbourne yet we didn't believe we could change Naughton from a backman.

Most talls we have picked Hyne calls project players.

Its bizarre.




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[manicpie]

Im in my 60s. My first key forward I remember is Peter Mckenna, a gun full forward who got fed brilliantly by Barry Price and the Richardsons. Next was one amazing season from Phil Carman. We have had the Rocca brothers, Travis Cloke for two key seasons and Mihocek as solid good forwards. Sorry if I missed someone here.

I have never seen a superstar forward at Collingwood. We tried for Reiwoldt, Brown, Cameron and Lynch with no luck. We have burned first round draft picks for flankers and small mids. Last night Fly said Cameron cost three first round draft picks like that was a reach. Yes that's right. We blow two on good solid players.

Every CPF we recruit is a fail. I remember Billy Morrison spin as the next Jonothan Brown. I don't listen to player comparisons anymore.

Im talking 50 years of no superstar game turning forward. Apparently its not a need for us ever.

I'll admit they are hard to come by but our best recent pick Mihocek was a back man from Port Melbourne yet we didn't believe we could change Naughton from a backman.

Most talls we have picked Hyne calls project players.

Its bizarre.




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Brian Taylor was very good for a few years but other than that, you're spot on

 

[sideswipe]

Im in my 60s. My first key forward I remember is Peter Mckenna, a gun full forward who got fed brilliantly by Barry Price and the Richardsons. Next was one amazing season from Phil Carman. We have had the Rocca brothers, Travis Cloke for two key seasons and Mihocek as solid good forwards. Sorry if I missed someone here.

I have never seen a superstar forward at Collingwood. We tried for Reiwoldt, Brown, Cameron and Lynch with no luck. We have burned first round draft picks for flankers and small mids. Last night Fly said Cameron cost three first round draft picks like that was a reach. Yes that's right. We blow two on good solid players.

Every CPF we recruit is a fail. I remember Billy Morrison spin as the next Jonothan Brown. I don't listen to player comparisons anymore.

Im talking 50 years of no superstar game turning forward. Apparently its not a need for us ever.

I'll admit they are hard to come by but our best recent pick Mihocek was a back man from Port Melbourne yet we didn't believe we could change Naughton from a backman.

Most talls we have picked Hyne calls project players.

Its bizarre.




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BT kicked 100 for us. They are hard to find.


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[manicpie]

Im in my 60s. My first key forward I remember is Peter Mckenna, a gun full forward who got fed brilliantly by Barry Price and the Richardsons. Next was one amazing season from Phil Carman. We have had the Rocca brothers, Travis Cloke for two key seasons and Mihocek as solid good forwards. Sorry if I missed someone here.

I have never seen a superstar forward at Collingwood. We tried for Reiwoldt, Brown, Cameron and Lynch with no luck. We have burned first round draft picks for flankers and small mids. Last night Fly said Cameron cost three first round draft picks like that was a reach. Yes that's right. We blow two on good solid players.

Every CPF we recruit is a fail. I remember Billy Morrison spin as the next Jonothan Brown. I don't listen to player comparisons anymore.

Im talking 50 years of no superstar game turning forward. Apparently its not a need for us ever.

I'll admit they are hard to come by but our best recent pick Mihocek was a back man from Port Melbourne yet we didn't believe we could change Naughton from a backman.

Most talls we have picked Hyne calls project players.

Its bizarre.




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In that time we knocked back Quinlan and Plugger also

 

[jathanas]

Im in my 60s. My first key forward I remember is Peter Mckenna, a gun full forward who got fed brilliantly by Barry Price and the Richardsons. Next was one amazing season from Phil Carman. We have had the Rocca brothers, Travis Cloke for two key seasons and Mihocek as solid good forwards. Sorry if I missed someone here.

I have never seen a superstar forward at Collingwood. We tried for Reiwoldt, Brown, Cameron and Lynch with no luck. We have burned first round draft picks for flankers and small mids. Last night Fly said Cameron cost three first round draft picks like that was a reach. Yes that's right. We blow two on good solid players.

Every CPF we recruit is a fail. I remember Billy Morrison spin as the next Jonothan Brown. I don't listen to player comparisons anymore.

Im talking 50 years of no superstar game turning forward. Apparently its not a need for us ever.

I'll admit they are hard to come by but our best recent pick Mihocek was a back man from Port Melbourne yet we didn't believe we could change Naughton from a backman.

Most talls we have picked Hyne calls project players.

Its bizarre.




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I would have loved Jeremy Cameron at Collingwood.

Then again, if Checkers and McStay were playing yesterday we'd have won.

Similarly if Cameron was out injured, Geelong would have lost. Swings and roundabouts.

EDIT: When on song Trav Cloke & Anthony Rocca were all the KPF a club would want. Both were magnificent at their peak.

 

[Jelly Bean]

How do you think we ended up with our premiership lists? By bottoming out and picking our core players with top picks. It’s delusional to think you’d win a premiership without spending time at the bottom. You don’t get to pick up the Pendles, Dale Thomas, Nick Daicos, De Goey, Sidebottom, Beams etc by finishing 9th every season.

Nick Daicos was a points pick, so we definitely could have still had him if we finished 9th or higher...
Sidebottom was pick 11 - we finished higher than 9th for that pick...
Beams was pick 29 in the same draft....
De Goey we got for a pick we used in a trade....

 

[whiskeytown]

If the link to barrass doesn’t come to fruition

Aaron Francis is out of contract… not getting a weekly game.

Would be a cheap pick up if he wanted to come back to Melbourne

I still think we need another experienced tall down back.

Frampton can then return to being a second ruck if needed

Howe has recently said he hopes to go on but he’s one nasty injury from retirement

Dean fairly average imo

TJ too young and lean.

Eyre they seem to be wanting to play forward

Ryan more of a rebounder than interceptor

 

[larrikan]

Brian Taylor was very good for a few years but other than that, you're spot on

I knew id miss one yes BT had a couple of big seasons.


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[kalex6251]

is it time the club undertake a review/overhaul of its recruitment/development programs?