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List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2015
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I heard that, but someone put the actual rule up, and that suggests Wallace is wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
tassiemaniac
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Unfortunately I don't think its for the members - I think its for the Board and the Executive - something tells me the reason we are struggling with GWS and Brisbane could be as much about the noise we made this year in relation to COLA and the apparent luxury being provided to northern states in relation to Academy picks. I could be completely wrong and this may all be a bit of a coincidence but I wonder what good a phone call to mend relations might achieve because this posturing is achieving nothing other than helping speed us to 1000 pages. I noted this thread has now gone over 1,000,000 views.
- May 27, 2012
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Send our first rounders this year and next for Treloar and GWS' second rounder this year.
Second round picks for Kennedy (Melb), Seedsman (GC) and Freeman (St Kilda).
That gives us 5 second rounders to play with.
Package two and send them to Sydney for #14. Offer #14 + Oxley for Aish. If Brisbane don't play nice, take #14 to the draft. Weideman territory.
Offer another second rounder to Hawthorn for Anderson.
Use the last two second rounders in the draft. Place priority on Rioli.
Also, pickup Mitch Harvey DFA.
We replenish the majority of our key needs with potential high level talent instead of bandaids, in one draft.
In a situation like that, we won't need Howe or Saad. I wouldn't want them either.
Second round picks for Kennedy (Melb), Seedsman (GC) and Freeman (St Kilda).
That gives us 5 second rounders to play with.
Package two and send them to Sydney for #14. Offer #14 + Oxley for Aish. If Brisbane don't play nice, take #14 to the draft. Weideman territory.
Offer another second rounder to Hawthorn for Anderson.
Use the last two second rounders in the draft. Place priority on Rioli.
Also, pickup Mitch Harvey DFA.
We replenish the majority of our key needs with potential high level talent instead of bandaids, in one draft.
In a situation like that, we won't need Howe or Saad. I wouldn't want them either.
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Why do we get ****ed around when young guns wanna join us. Fml.
wicksy
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We won't get a 2nd rounder for Kennedy.... No way, No Howe!!
- Dec 16, 2013
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Has howe officially nominated us??
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It seems to me negotiations arn't going to well and talks may have broken down.it would not surprise me at all that we miss out on treloar and Aish and end up with duds like Howe young and saad.
jjsmitty8
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I heard Terry as well. Pretty sure he's wrong.
My understanding is that if you trade a future first rounder, then you're done trading future picks in that draft. If you hold onto the first rounder, then you're free to trade multiple future picks.
Additionally, you must use two first round draft picks over a 4 year period.
So essentially going from my understanding, we wouldn't be allowed to trade 2016 first AND second. But we could trade 2016 second and third etc. If we trade 2015 and 2016 firsts, then we'll be unable to trade a first rounder for 2017 next year, or a first rounder for 2018 in the 2017 trade period.
Does anyone know the actual rule?
My understanding is that if you trade a future first rounder, then you're done trading future picks in that draft. If you hold onto the first rounder, then you're free to trade multiple future picks.
Additionally, you must use two first round draft picks over a 4 year period.
So essentially going from my understanding, we wouldn't be allowed to trade 2016 first AND second. But we could trade 2016 second and third etc. If we trade 2015 and 2016 firsts, then we'll be unable to trade a first rounder for 2017 next year, or a first rounder for 2018 in the 2017 trade period.
Does anyone know the actual rule?
Treloar will get to us I reckon at the end we might give our first pick this year and next
- Aug 17, 2009
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If and it's a big if this does happen then we wont be the ones that didn't get the trades done. It would've been because GWS are being unreasonable and Brisbane are wanks.
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I would be unbelievably disappointed if we got Howe. IMO, he would flourish in a team that needs medium marking forwards which stay in the F50. If Freo got McCarthy then dumped DeBoer or Mayne for Howe on the cheap, they'd be smiling. But we have Elliott, Fasolo and Swan already. We need a hard running high half forward ala Gunston, or a quick crumbing specialist. Howe is neither and Howe plays from behind too often to be that Gunston type. He's just unwilling to impose himself on games consistently. When you combine that with his poor defensive workrate, it's just a recipe for disaster, especially if we give up Kennedy for him.
Magpie Monopoly
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This statement is based on what information exactly?
- Dec 16, 2013
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I wrote f ark and it came up as glory be!! ..lol
Don't agree. Lions tweeted about that actual deal. Sure it could be a subtle backhander from Bucks, but it might just be that it was in his opinion good that it was all done with no fan fare. He is allowed to have an opinion on another trades in the AFL. If Lions want to take him out of context, who cares.
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You can trade your first and second round I think but can only do twice in 4 year period. Think consecutive is ok but stand corrected.
Clokeydokey
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I was being subtle
eddiebankbalance
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Howe probably has to take a pay cut. Thinks Melb is behind him, time to move on.
sr36
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The Shaw and Adams trade was always going to go ahead, but if you remember correctly it dragged on until the end, assumedly with lots of haggling over the sweetener. I suspect the same thing is going on here and seems to go one with all of our trades. I don't think that we can blame other clubs. It's the way we do business and over the last few years, we've walked away with very good deals.
eddiebankbalance
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Martin's hair is a joke
Hammies hold up he might be the best player in that draft, if they don't he will be a bust. Up side huge, down side massive risk. That's all you can say about him.
Exactly when saying "SEN" it's important to say who exactly said it. If it's a talk back caller then no. If it's a journo it has more creditabilitySEN got hacked, LMAO
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