List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 Part 4 - The Final Day: Sailing into the abyss ...

[MagpieJoel]

Hine just said he has "no idea" what is happening with Williams.

Yeah, but that's what he always says. Then 5 minutes later....bam.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

What a horrible return for Witts

For a slow, soft ruckman who does nothing around the ground?

I think we did well.

 

[Couch Coach]

I think the Grundy/Jesse combo will be fine. Grundy will ruck 90% if the time anyway

Backup ruck if Grundy is injured?

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Barlow is slow as treacle and kicking lacks penetration. He makes Mayne look like a superstar.
With Wells and maybe DeGoey moving into our midfield in 2017, we'd be better to put Crisp onto the HBF than recruit Barlow for that role. Crisp is fast, defensively minded, aggressive and can kick it a mile. Vastly superior option to Barlow.

I dont believe we would have no use for Barlow with the state of our list. He was boarderline elite a couple years back and is only 28

 

[Maggie5]

Poor Maggie5 she might need a Hug

Already switched to Dunn.

 

[Hardas]

Yeah I have NO idea why we aren't considering Barlow.

He'd cost us nothing, I don't get it.

DFA?

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Backup ruck if Grundy is injured?

Anyone but Moore. But yes we do have thin KPP stocks

 

[Kappa]

For a slow, soft ruckman who does nothing around the ground?

I think we did well.

When you consider other trades for soft slow ruckmen we got absolutely reamed.

 

[wicksy]

Cam Wood to us for pick 14...

That says more about the stupidity of us though... Hardly worth mentioning!

 

[jmac70]

Already switched to Dunn.

Try following an AFL player Maggie!

 

[JustInsideFifty]

Rupetfan was right about Witts 44th pick = 4th round pick

Well 62 is 4th round...

 

[Jez629]

A little unders for Witts I would have thought.

People will say "But he was only playing in the VFL!"

Yeeeeeah, because the AFL side had arguably the in form ruckman of the competition playing ahead of him? Witts would have been playing seniors in at least 10 other sides this season.

Cloke deal to be done very soon then!!!!

 

[Lethal06]

So did i;

Longer (4 games in seniors) for effectivley pick 22
Hampson (6 games) for 32
Cam Wood (8 games) for 14

in their years prior to being traded.

Think also pretty well accepted Witts far to good for VFL and more a reflection of Grundy being the # 1 guy.

Is what it is but I cant see the argument that Witts is any worse than any of them in the years they got traded

Shocking deal.

Its a mistake to use trades of Longer, Hampson and Wood as a pricing guide for Witts. Those three you name were all priced way too high and the clubs have woken up and are now being smarter about it. We really needed to trade Witts last season, before his ordinary efforts in 2016 dragged his value down.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Knight / Snoop / Etc.
What back up rucks are available?
Our backup rucks are Cox, White, Keeffe, Moore

Not many mate and suspect need to wait for DFA.

Minson obviously would be one to look at for me.

Luke Lowden maybe but I am not sure where he is at with footy so unlikely.

Drew Petrie for a year maybe but he aint a ruck but I guess you could look at it as would provide back up as a forward I guess.

Cameron from the WAFL but I have never been a huge fan but he has been on the improve.

Might be one or two from the SANFL but again unlikely.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

DFA?

Ok, so we can take him later?

 

[TradeDraft]

Already switched to Dunn.

and we don't even have him yet

 

[Daicos Daze]

Please i don't want Moore mentioned in the same sentence as Ruck

But his dad played Ruck/forward and won Two Brownlows
Smashed them

 

[TradeDraft]

Cloke deal to be done very soon then!!!!

But aren't we trying to get the WHE done 1st?

 

[Snoop Dog]

Its a mistake to use trades of Longer, Hampson and Wood as a pricing guide for Witts. Those three you name were all priced way too high and the clubs have woken up and are now being smarter about it. We really needed to trade Witts last season, before his ordinary efforts in 2016 dragged his value down.

I have been saying trade him for the last 2 years so yeah I agree with that but not sure i agree with former argument.

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Witts gone. Farewell sweet prince - you were too beautiful and tall for our world.

44+62 is disappointing from what we'd hoped we might get, but probably reflects the market value. It should pay for at least one of Brown or Daicos.

Meanwhile, that swap of picks by the Doggies with the Suns doesn't bode well for what pick we get for Cloke, although if the theory is that that pick gets shifted straight to Melbourne for Dunn, that doesn't matter too much.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Not everyone gets the pleasure of riding our arse, it's got be shared around.

love it

 

[TW Sherrin]

I dont believe we would have no use for Barlow with the state of our list. He was boarderline elite a couple years back and is only 28

maybe he's on reasonable coin?

 

[Jez629]

But aren't we trying to get the WHE done 1st?

Doggies getting draft picks to then pass onto us for cloke..... thats my guess

 

[Hardas]

Ok, so we can take him later?

Once they start considering further delistings etc.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

yes - although what might have been if he'd gone to GWS as part of the Treloar trade.

That's the sting, big ugly sting