Opinion Commentary & Media VI

[giantroo]

Kingy about to go deep on north on sen

42 mins in

 

[Rod Stroker]

With 6 changes? I doubt it.

the number of changes doesn't necessarily impact the chances of winning or losing.

We'll have a bloke who kicked 9 goals come in this week, and possibly Wardlaw's debut. We'll be a chance.

 

[Passmore]

Great response by our boys, they really stuck it to Kane.

We roughed ‘em up good.

 

[Nylex]

42 mins in

Great. Impressed with Simpkins quick response. More effort expected against the swans

 

[justroyal]

**** off Jy. ‘We’re trying our hardest’.
Are you? Really?

 

[Mav]

the number of changes doesn't necessarily impact the chances of winning or losing.

We'll have a bloke who kicked 9 goals come in this week, and possibly Wardlaw's debut. We'll be a chance.

right, so we're hanging our hat on a guy who's played 20 AFL games and averaged less than a goal, plus an underdone first gamer.

I realize it's been a long time since we've been competitive but come on, CCJ isn't as good as Zurhaar and Wardlaw isn't as good as LDU.

 

[Ardent Roo]

right, so we're hanging our hat on a guy who's played 20 AFL games and averaged less than a goal, plus an underdone first gamer.

I realize it's been a long time since we've been competitive but come on, CCJ isn't as good as Zurhaar and Wardlaw isn't as good as LDU.

But equally so, 4 of the 6 changes are for guys who people on here pot as ready to de-list or at the very least, drop. Perez, Tucker, Mahony and Corr. LDU (and seemingly Zurhaar?) definitely make us weaker no matter who comes in, but let's not think the world is caving on because the number happens to be 6.

 

[Scylla]

Effort is a byproduct of confidence with this group. The skill errors and ridiculous turnovers just sapped the team and it’s fairly evident to see week in week out. The amazing part is things can click if the skill execution can be raised to a 70-80% level. Easier said than done, but the indictment is that skill level has not improved one bit in the last god knows how long. And that comes down to development!

 

[berniemccarthy]

42 mins in

You cannot argue with any of that. None. They’re no natural leaders. I would argue CZ has more natural leadership instincts than any in the leadership group but lacks polish. That should count for him and not against him. Wayne was a natural leader in actions. He was not a media performer and still isn’t ! That’s what we need. Someone to follow into battle. Larkey is a classic. In the leadership group but I wouldn’t follow him around the corner. McKay is worse. Leading Teams should be thrown out if that’s the best they can come up with.

 

[King Corey]

I say this about Jy particularly rather than the other players named and shamed by David King - is there a chance he/they were caught in no man's land playing to instructions?

David was highlighting them not committing to individual contests. I wonder if some of the examples were players deliberately holding back in a certain zone?

Probably not. Just want to test the "insufficient effort" hypothesis a bit before going in with the jackboots.

 

[r_boy]

I say this about Jy particularly rather than the other players named and shamed by David King - is there a chance he/they were caught in no man's land playing to instructions?

David was highlighting them not committing to individual contests. I wonder if some of the examples were players deliberately holding back in a certain zone?

Probably not. Just want to test the "insufficient effort" hypothesis a bit before going in with the jackboots.

They're all fixated on the game plan trying to learn it which is fine but in the meantime they're using it as an excuse to be lazy IMO. They've done it so many times now it comes natural.

I dunno that's what it feels like.

 

[Mav]

I say this about Jy particularly rather than the other players named and shamed by David King - is there a chance he/they were caught in no man's land playing to instructions?

David was highlighting them not committing to individual contests. I wonder if some of the examples were players deliberately holding back in a certain zone?

Probably not. Just want to test the "insufficient effort" hypothesis a bit before going in with the jackboots.

You talking about the first or second low light? First one, he had to close the space, that's how zones work. 2nd one, he held off to cover the outlet pass, but McKay was already beaten. That could be following instruction but unlikely. Surely a second tackler is a must inside D50.

 

[King Corey]

You talking about the first or second low light? First one, he had to close the space, that's how zones work. 2nd one, he held off to cover the outlet pass, but McKay was already beaten. That could be following instruction but unlikely. Surely a second tackler is a must inside D50.

It looked really poor to the naked eye. Just looking for any nuance before concluding it was all laziness.

 

[Mav]

It looked really poor to the naked eye. Just looking for any nuance before concluding it was all laziness.

I don't see it so much as laziness in an effort sense but it's defiantly lazy in a mental sense. The guys are trying, but they're making poor decisions, or hoping their team mate does something special. It's these mental lapses that are killing us.

 

[kangafruity]

My hubby says they just dont care, they are getting their coin each week and there doesnt seem to be a consequence to them playing poorly when most of them should be playing out of their skins to ensure they dont get delisted. I am tending to start agreeing with him. The captaincy hasnt helped McDonald at all n fact its made him go backwards and I am giving Jy a bit of an out because of injury but he is doing dumb stuff he wasnt doing before. Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

has gone backwards too and you have to wonder why. Does Clarko ride them hard and they cant handle the heat after years of mediocrity in the coaching ranks????? I am aware that Noble rode them hard but I think much more differently than to what Clarko knows/does

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Playing a zoning defense allows blokes to lazily guard nothing.

 

[leighlee13]

Wreck it Ralph: Your club’s hits and misses from trading top 10 picks in the past decade​

From huge busts to mega deals that secured grand final victories, Jon Ralph rates every club on their trades involving top-10 picks since the 2013 national draft.

Jon Ralph
@RalphyHeraldSun

May 15, 2023 - 1:29PM

NORTH MELBOURNE​

Like Gold Coast, the Roos have been forced into difficult choices.

Forced to trade No.1 overall pick Jason Horne-Francis, they at least got picks 2, 3, 40 and 42 and Port’s first-rounder this season.

Harry Sheezel is a jet and George Wardlaw should debut this week. Both should play at the Roos for 12-15 years, and Horne-Francis would have left this year if they didn’t trade him last October.

In 2018 the Roos knew their pick 11 would be swallowed up by a bid on NGA prospect Tarryn Thomas, so they traded 11 and a fourth-rounder for Jared Polec

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Jared Polec

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.6

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

7.7

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

20.5

5star

K

13.1

5star

HB

7.4

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

2.9

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, Jasper Pittard

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Jasper Pittard

Age

33

Ht

186cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

11.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

388.2

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.9

4star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

310.9

4star

D

19.6

5star

K

14.6

5star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

and pick 48.

It was a disastrous deal, even if it didn’t strictly involve a top 10 pick.

RATING: Let’s focus on the positives. Given what Jason Horne-Francis has said about his homesickness he was going to leave at some stage. As the Roos unwrap the gift that is Wardlaw at least they have maximised their assets from a bad situation.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Wreck it Ralph: Your club’s hits and misses from trading top 10 picks in the past decade​

From huge busts to mega deals that secured grand final victories, Jon Ralph rates every club on their trades involving top-10 picks since the 2013 national draft.

Jon Ralph
@RalphyHeraldSun

May 15, 2023 - 1:29PM

NORTH MELBOURNE​

Like Gold Coast, the Roos have been forced into difficult choices.

Forced to trade No.1 overall pick Jason Horne-Francis, they at least got picks 2, 3, 40 and 42 and Port’s first-rounder this season.

That is not what we got for releasing JHF. We also had to give up the number 1 pick this year as part of the trade.

I still think losing last years number 1 pick (given how good that player will be), and giving up this years number 1 pick, was way overs for what we got back in return.

 

[Caracas]

Haven't we already seen this movie when Nobes ripped into them last year after the Lions thrashing?

Interestingly enough, it was prior to the Swans clash last season too. To all intents and purposes, it certainly seemed to work - for one week.


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[Caracas]

Great response by our boys, they really stuck it to Kane.

We’re really wallowing in our own crapness now.


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[Rod Stroker]

Ben Carroll, BFNAAK

Myki operator loses contract, new fare system on the way for commuters

Victorians will need to be patient as they wait for the new $1.7 billion contract to overhaul the outdated ticket system.

www.theage.com.au

And yeah, Myki can **** right off. But gee governments down there know how to blow tax payers money; 100M a year to maintain Myki, and now 1.7B to replace it!

 

[Horizons_00]

First 5 mins or so on North “It’s not about winning, it’s about making us proud”

David King is on the money. The fans are hurting.

 

[DuckYeah]

So Jy doesn’t know what it is? **** me dead. I feel like I have to come down with a few of us ****in gronks and we will ****ing tell these campaigners what it is over the fence during training. I’ll organise us ugly campaigners (my mates) to turn up to training and we’ll ****ing let them know how ****ing soft they are. ****ing bullshit. HAVE A CRACK YOU ****IN campaignerS

 

[DuckYeah]

One ****ing week longer will I put up with this shit as a member and then its ****ing on. Annual leave day and a car load of blokes and we are going to Arden Street

 

[Lomas]

Ben Carroll, BFNAAK

Myki operator loses contract, new fare system on the way for commuters

Victorians will need to be patient as they wait for the new $1.7 billion contract to overhaul the outdated ticket system.

www.theage.com.au

And yeah, Myki can * right off. But gee governments down there know how to blow tax payers money; 100M a year to maintain Myki, and now 1.7B to replace it!

It’s been a costly 15 years.