List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Keys]

Time to roll this runaway train of a thread over

A bit of a summary of where we sit with our list and what’s on the radar for us

We currently have 34 players contracted beyond 2024 (31 main list, 2 rookie list and 1 Cat B rookie)

Which leaves 10 players currently out of contract :
Rotham
Witherden
Jones
L Edwards
Trew (R)
Culley (R)*
Burgiel
Baker (R)
Livingstone (Cat B)*
Rawlinson (R)*

* As reported by old mate Stickdick, these players have reportedly signed, or are about to sign, new deals. The future for rest of that list remains in limbo for the time being as they have yet to be offered a contract for 2025

Assuming that is correct and with Barrass requesting a trade to Hawthorn we have 8 list spots available for the draft, FA/trades or re-signings

Our current draft hand is 3,23,59 plus whatever we receive for Barrass, likely to be Hawthorn’s R1 pick at a minimum with other pick(s) to be determined. We’ll also have pick 3 in the rookie draft

Using 4 draft picks plus one in the rookie draft should be considered the minimum for a rebuilding side. Ideally, given the purported depth of this draft we should be looking at using a 5th draft pick if we can trade one in somehow

As for trades and FA acquisitions we have been linked to the following :

Peatling (GWS)
Baker (Richmond)
Graham (Richmond - FA)
Parfitt (Geelong - FA)
Carroll (Carlton)
Garcia (Bulldogs)
Clurey (Port Adelaide)

Sheldrick (Sydney) and Robertson (Brisbane) remain possible targets albeit neither name has come up in the media yet

We have also been tenuously linked to Kozi Pickett but it appears more likely he’ll head to Fremantle if he decides to leave Melbourne

Our success in luring some of those players will determine how many, if any, of those contracted players remain or if we have to trade players out or delist a contracted player (unlikely) to make room on the list. Graham and Baker seem the most likely whilst the rest are speculative at best

Ryan, Darling and Petruccelle have been raised as potential trades but mainly in passing rather than anything definitive

Trade week commences Monday, October 7 and runs through to Wednesday, October 16 - a mere 38 sleeps away

 

[KERRPOW]

Im glad culley is reportedly signing a 1 year extension. He came into the club with a bit of hype and had big eagle energy about him. I really hope he can make it.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Thanks uncle Keys for keeping us safe

 

[Kegs15]

Time to roll this runaway train of a thread over

A bit of a summary of where we sit with our list and what’s on the radar for us

We currently have 34 players contracted beyond 2024 (31 main list, 2 rookie list and 1 Cat B rookie)

Which leaves 10 players currently out of contract :
Rotham
Witherden
Jones
L Edwards
Trew (R)
Culley (R)*
Burgiel
Baker (R)
Livingstone (Cat B)*
Rawlinson (R)*

* As reported by old mate Stickdick, these players have reportedly signed, or are about to sign, new deals. The future for rest of that list remains in limbo for the time being as they have yet to be offered a contract for 2025

Assuming that is correct and with Barrass requesting a trade to Hawthorn we have 8 list spots available for the draft, FA/trades or re-signings

Our current draft hand is 3,23,59 plus whatever we receive for Barrass, likely to be Hawthorn’s R1 pick at a minimum with other pick(s) to be determined. We’ll also have pick 3 in the rookie draft

Using 4 draft picks plus one in the rookie draft should be considered the minimum for a rebuilding side. Ideally, given the purported depth of this draft we should be looking at using a 5th draft pick if we can trade one in somehow

As for trades and FA acquisitions we have been linked to the following :

Peatling (GWS)
Baker (Richmond)
Graham (Richmond - FA)
Parfitt (Geelong - FA)
Carroll (Carlton)
Garcia (Bulldogs)
Clurey (Port Adelaide)

Sheldrick (Sydney) and Robertson (Brisbane) remain possible targets albeit neither name has come up in the media yet

We have also been tenuously linked to Kozi Pickett but it appears more likely he’ll head to Fremantle if he decides to leave Melbourne

Our success in luring some of those players will determine how many, if any, of those contracted players remain or if we have to trade players out or delist a contracted player (unlikely) to make room on the list. Graham and Baker seem the most likely whilst the rest are speculative at best

Ryan, Darling and Petruccelle have been raised as potential trades but mainly in passing rather than anything definitive

Trade week commences Monday, October 7 and runs through to Wednesday, October 16 - a mere 38 sleeps away

Thanks for the summary!

If he wants to come I reckon Parfitt of those options you've listed would make the most sense IMO - he's hard and a bit bullocking, does the defensive stuff, right age and seems the best fit to put around the Reid/Hewett/(Draper) etcs to give them a bit of physical protection whilst being young enough to be around as long as we need him and fast enough that nobody's picking up his slack on the spread.

Would cost us nothing picks-wise (and as you say would be nice to keep a few mid range picks). And generally prefer to take players who are on the outer in a really good team/system.

Also think our board in general is maybe a bit overly focused on good disposal by foot (PTSD from our 2015 midfield which still made a GF) - good disposal I'd prioritise highly for A-grade midfield draftees sure but for a cheap pickup who's always going to have flaws I'd rather someone who's hard and decently fast. Will be better for protecting the kids, preserving Yeo and letting Kelly hopefully play more of a Geelong Kelly role if possible.

Peatling would be great but reckon he'll be choosing between other offers or staying.

 

[dinnaz]

2025, we will be out of the bottom 4
Lets trade our F1

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

If bolten and pickett both get to freo it will cost them all 3 firsts this year and a future 1st with some later picks going back .

If freo blow their wad on 2 contracted players who's club's will be wanting maximum compensation it will effectively take them out of the warner race next season .

It will also give us a free run at Baker without interference.

 

[dinnaz]

If bolten and pickett both get to freo it will cost them all 3 firsts this year and a future 1st with some later picks going back .

If freo blow their wad on 2 contracted players who's club's will be wanting maximum compensation it will effectively take them out of the warner race next season .

It will also give us a free run at Baker without interference.

No way in hell is Bolton worth 2 first rounders.
Picket is far better and Melbourne should be stoked with #10 alone

 

[mat11]

1 year deals:
Rawlinson
Livingstone
Trew
Culley

Retire/delist:
JJ
Rotham
Witherden
Burgiel
Edwards
Gaff

Trade Ins:
Peatling- 23 + GWS give back 49
Kozzie- 12 + Hawks f1

Trade Outs:
Barass- 12 and Hawks f1
Darling- Pies 48

Draft:
3 - O'Sullivan
48 - Dennis
49 + 59 (445pts) = pick 39 Champion bid
Kozzie
Peatling
Graham (FA)

Best 23
Hough Edwards Cole
Duggan Gov Ginbey
Kelly Peatling Maric
Pickett Snake Long
Ryan Allen Jwilliams

Flynn Yeo Reid

O'Sullivan Graham Hutchinson Dewar
(Sub)Hewett

 

[Mop]

Burgiel is the one big disappointment there - really thought he’d kick on and be really useful. Injuries have been cruel - maybe a one year rookie deal last roll of the dice ?

 

[kerrazy]

It will also give us a free run at Baker without interference.

 

[Elite Pete]

With Noble and Rioli on their way to GC. Should try and get Joel Jeffery or Budarick for cheap. (GC might plan to play Jefferey fwd)

 

[Smotie2]

1 year deals:
Rawlinson
Livingstone
Trew
Culley

Retire/delist:
JJ
Rotham
Witherden
Burgiel
Edwards
Gaff

Trade Ins:
Peatling- 23 + GWS give back 49
Kozzie- 12 + Hawks f1

Trade Outs:
Barass- 12 and Hawks f1
Darling- Pies 48

Draft:
3 - O'Sullivan
48 - Dennis
49 + 59 (445pts) = pick 39 Champion bid
Kozzie
Peatling
Graham (FA)

Best 23
Hough Edwards Cole
Duggan Gov Ginbey
Kelly Peatling Maric
Pickett Snake Long
Ryan Allen Jwilliams

Flynn Yeo Reid

O'Sullivan Graham Hutchinson Dewar
(Sub)Hewett

You want to go into one of the deepest midfielder drafts with 1 pick in the top 50?

Are you working for the dockers?

 

[Peptide Pig]

Start of 2025 Bolton is 26 and Baker is 27, both have premiership experience which Freo need.

Kozzy and Warner are both 23 which is perfect for us. Throw in Peatling (24) and Dev (23) and we have bolstered the midfield, added pace, flair and aggression as well as some defensive balance.

Here is my attempt at making it happen while maintaining a top 10 pick to land an elite young mid. The end of R1 priority picks are a big IF but would give us a lot more flexibility with trades and draft collateral. If North got given 4 surely we can get 2 ??

TB to Hawks for 12 + 30
Ryan to Freo for 27 + Knobel
JD to Pies for 50
Petch to highest bidder at approx 40
End of R1 PP 19 + 20 from AFL

Draft picks
3, 12, 19, 20, 23, 27, 30, 40, 50, 59, 77

Trade
12 + 20 to Dees for Kozzy
3 + 19 + BW to Saints for 7 + 8 (Battle compo)
23 + 27 + 30 to Suns for 13
7 + 13 + F3 to Sydney for Warner
F2 + 40 to Giants for Peatling + 35
50 to Lions for Dev

Draft
8 best mid
35 best slider
59 champion
77 will come in to 60 odd

In: Kozzy, Warner, Peatling, Dev, Knobel

B: Hough Edwards Hunt
HB: Ginbey Gov Duggo
C: Kelly Yeo Peatling
HF: Pickett Waterman Hewett
F: Long Allen JWillo
R: Flynn Reid Warner
Int: Maric Hutch Dev pick 8
S: Chesser
E: Bazzo Dewar Brockman Hall Archer Witho Cole Cripps

I know the draft mafia want to flood the team with speculative 18 year olds, but in this scenario we bring in

• 1x gun AA attacking mid
• 1x gun small forward/mid
• 2x best 22 balanced/defensive mids
• 1x developing ruck
• All between the ages of 20-24
• Retain top 10 pick

All of a sudden we look pretty competitive and Harley might enjoy a few more wins with a core group of youngsters which will go a long way to keeping him and others together long term.

 

[Patron]

I'm really concerned that we are being linked to so many middling, low ceiling players which will require the use of valuable assets, especially our finite draft picks.

Peatling, Baker, Graham etc. all likely to cost more than they are worth to us as a developing side that lacks stars.

If we draft well, we really only need one of these types of players to protect the kids post kelly/yeo (or none if we got a pickett).

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

I wonder if we have shown any interest in Kaleb Smith? Or has he resigned with the Tiger's?

 

[chaddy22]

Rumour is Jamie Cripps

15

Jamie Cripps

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.9

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

has retired and will play at Northampton with his mates.
If true it opens another spot or saves someone from being delisted.

 

[MeltMan]

New thread who Dis?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Rumour is Jamie Cripps has retired and will play at Northampton with his mates.
If true it opens another spot or saves someone from being delisted.

Heard that from Mark Readings on 6PR just before..I'll believe it when I see it. Wouldn't be celebrating too early

 

[random260]

Before everyone starts shouting from rooftops in langford we trust

Wait for the combine. He's may test slower then a snail for speed and endurance. That would be a deal breaker. He had one vfl game with men and got 12 possessions.

Now as a hypocrite same doesn't apply for Lalor. He could test slower worse on endurance then langford I still draft him instead of langford. Now if Lalor blitzes combine then we'll let hope other clubs don't watch combine score and he slides

 

[mat11]

You want to go into one of the deepest midfielder drafts with 1 pick in the top 50?

Are you working for the dockers?

1.Firstly there are 3 under 50,
Finn- arguably the best pure mid
Dennis - u18 all Australia full back
Malakai- mercurial small fwd

2.
It's only speculation this years draft is stacked, it's not something we can guarantee on till 5-7 years pass.The draft is bread and butter for people like cal twomey so it's in their best interest to oversell it every year like Americans do with their football

3.
Adding peatling and kozzi won't be free.both players add a lot and we'd look significantly better for it. Our Midfield needs a mature body ready to go, relying on young Harley or yeo who is injury prone is reckless. Having a xfactor like kozzi in not only adds 30+ goals a year it keeps a hbf accountable also freeing up kelly/dewar/Ryan

4. If you don't like peatling that pick 23 will probably get swallowed up bringing in baker. 12 and Hawks f1 probably won't be enough to get kozzi here so there's an extra pick for you

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

I made a very funny post in the last thread that was lined up to receive record numbers before oldigarch Keys left me on an island. I'm sure you'll all do the right thing.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I'm really concerned that we are being linked to so many middling, low ceiling players which will require the use of valuable assets, especially our finite draft picks.

Peatling, Baker, Graham etc. all likely to cost more than they are worth to us as a developing side that lacks stars.

If we draft well, we really only need one of these types of players to protect the kids post kelly/yeo (or none if we got a pickett).

Just because we're "linked" to them all doesnt mean we plan on getting all of them. Some would be backups if the first choices fall through

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Rumour is Jamie Cripps has retired and will play at Northampton with his mates.
If true it opens another spot or saves someone from being delisted.

He’s been a great player, I wouldn’t be disappointed if the news was true, Dewar, Champion, Liam Baker, could all be given opportunities if he was moving on.

 

[stallon]

I'm really concerned that we are being linked to so many middling, low ceiling players which will require the use of valuable assets, especially our finite draft picks.

Peatling, Baker, Graham etc. all likely to cost more than they are worth to us as a developing side that lacks stars.

If we draft well, we really only need one of these types of players to protect the kids post kelly/yeo (or none if we got a pickett).

Graham is free, Peatling will be relatively cheap as hes not even locked in the best 22 for GWS.

We ideally want 2 of these guys imo. Need to move Kelly out and to be able to move out Yeo in case of injury or just to protect him at half back.

Draft wont cover these defensive mid roles in the near future, thats years away.