List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Elite Pete]

We would be silly not to ask about soldo i assume he has a relationship with mini

Already selected Saints and sounds very much like he wants to go back to Melbourne

 

[RanaNaved]

We also need some run and skill off half back and a kpd, just taking mids would be stupid

 

[stallon]

Yeo and Kelly gone in 3 years.

Our midfield depth is non existent. Maybe Richmond has less depth.

And you think his manager would steer him away from the Eagles because of a lack of opportunity?

Very few draftee mids impact like Harley did.

Does Garcia push out Hewett/Reid/a potential mid with pick 3 and Warner/top 4 pick next year?
Thats 3-4 accumulator/offensive mids.
Hes fighting Baker/Long/Hutch/Brockman/our NGA kids for a half-forward spot

Garcia isnt your big body defensive mid who youd throw in there to complement those types of players either. A Dev/Graham/Hall type would be more suitable id imagine.

Next 2 years Yeo and Kelly are still around competing for a spot too, he and the eagles wont know for sure whether Yeo and Kelly are still in the middle in 2026.

Thats the situation he would be facing, hes far from guaranteed a midfield spot in 3 years time

 

[Byron_Clanger]

To be expected. Not many people wanna go to a team that's won 11 games in three years.

 

[Deepthroat]

There seems to be general consensus we are likely to finish bottom 4 again next year.

So WHY are we giving 13 up for Baker again?

 

[mattyc75]

Bit harsh on the history bit............. you clearly missed our 2001 golden era of Trent Carroll, Greg Harding, David Sierakowski, Mark Merenda and Michael Prior, they just showered the oppo with their talent.

Merenda was a big talent, injuries slowed him down in think

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[Big_Birdy]

Yeo and Kelly gone in 3 years. Hewett has massive questions on his foot issue.

Our midfield depth is close to non existent. Even Richmond has more depth.

And you think his manager would steer him away from the Eagles because of a lack of opportunity? Really?

Very few draftee mids impact like Harley did.

The impact is irrelevant.

If we are giving maybe at best afl standard footballers like Garcia games ahead of the likes of Hewett and Sid Draper in 2026 then we have bigger problems than not chasing hard the likes of Riley Garcia.

for a team not competing for finals, a highly rated teenager will be played before a 24 year old fringe player every time. As they should.

We have no need for him after next year except as break glass coverage. If we weren’t getting Baker and Graham it may be different, but we are. The manager would know this.

 

[stallon]

Peatling is a good get for them.
Pushes Curtin back a spot in the pecking order for midfield time. Do we ask the question?
Even some of their other mids may be gettable

 

[Elite Pete]

To be expected. Not many people wanna go to a team that's won 11 games in three years.

Crows have sucked for a long time. Hardly hit a first round pick.

Just going the Cats route

 

[Tugga27]

There seems to be general consensus we are likely to finish bottom 4 again next year.

So WHY are we giving 13 up for Baker again?

Are we?

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Are we?

Yes lol

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

If the general consensus is don’t trade 13 for baker, why wouldn’t we offer Hawks F1, which you can safely assume is going to be higher than 13 given they’re on the up and adding TB and battle.

 

[MaxHunt]

I reckon Barrass makes it to Sydney, we receive Warner and give Sydney a pick

You'd reckon wrong.

 

[Bender_]

Are we?

You're a masochist.

 

[KERRPOW]

With Daniher retired trade radio discusses possible replacements. Jenkins mentioned Bailey Williams……

Thats me driving B Williams to the airport

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Crowd potentially getting ANB, Peatling and Cummings without giving up a first rounder this year or next you would think is good business.

In that note I’d rate baker around the same as ANB and peatling going off this years form and they both fetch second rounders imo so baker would be of a similar value

 

[Elite Pete]

Crowd potentially getting ANB, Peatling and Cummings without giving up a first rounder this year or next you would think is good business.

In that note I’d rate baker around the same as ANB and peatling going off this years form and they both fetch second rounders imo so baker would be of a similar value

Baker imo has a little more value than all of those mentioned, maybe on par with Cummings if he stayed on the park.

increasing their floor of their best 23, while also using pick 4 to increase their ceiling is good business.

Will be interesting to see where they see Peatlings value. Future 2nd?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

To be expected. Not many people wanna go to a team that's won 11 games in three years.

Peatling , cumming and neil-bullen .

They are well stocked to climb the ladder next season .

Peatling is a great slone replacement

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

If the general consensus is don’t trade 13 for baker, why wouldn’t we offer Hawks F1, which you can safely assume is going to be higher than 13 given they’re on the up and adding TB and battle.

I like 3 + 13 + culley + for 6 + 9 +47 + Baker trade .

With the steak being Richmond landing band 3 ( pick 22) for Graham

We then send pick 47 to Brisbane for Robertson.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Baker imo has a little more value than all of those mentioned, maybe on par with Cummings if he stayed on the park.

increasing their floor of their best 23, while also hoping pick 4 increases their ceiling is good business.

Will be interesting to see where they see Peatlings value. Future 2nd?

All above are solid b or b plus players you pay late teens to mid twenties for. Good players not superstars.

Peatling for F2 seeems about right

 

[Elite Pete]

I like 3 + 13 + culley + for 6 + 9 +47 + Baker trade .

With the steak being Richmond landing band 3 ( pick 22) for Graham

We then send pick 47 to Brisbane for Robertson.

Richmond ain’t doing that

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The inability to get anyone in besides Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

has been shambolic really. We are basically at North Melbourne levels here

 

[Tugga27]

Yes lol

You're basing this on a couple of tweets?

Interesting.

 

[Choogler]

If as rumoured the Tigers are keen on getting 2 top 3 picks, and they offered us pick 6+something to get it done, assuming FOS, Draper and Smith arent there at 6 do we just take TT?
I would but thats just me.

We keep lowballing ourselves, while the largely Vic media highballs the value of guys leaving Vic clubs for interstate clubs and assumes the deals will just get done.
IMHO, neither Rioli or Baker are worth 6 or 13 as touted. Rioli is an outside seagull with very poor contested ball/defensive stats and not worth any more than GC Pick 20, and it is around the same mark for Baker. To provide a comparison, who would give up Pick 6 or 13 for Duggan? I suspect not many, and yet his stats are comparable or better than Rioli and Baker last season and over their careers. Pick 6 might be a starting point for someone like Lachie Whitfield who is elite/above average in most areas.

Now, most of the Vic media seem to think its a formality that Richmond will get everything they want to regenerate quickly, well we should be proactively trying to improve our hand while limiting Richmond's draft hand.

I'd rather give our F1 to GC to extract 6, rather than give up our pick 3 in this year's draft. It also looks as though GC may have 3 potential first round academy kids, including a potential No. 1, to match for in 2025. Due to changes to points and and discounts for 2025 they can't match those with junk picks like they did in 2023, they will need to bank early picks to get the points.

So, offer our F1 & 23 for 6, 12. If we finish in the bottom 3 in 2025, the points will either favour GC or be equal. Assuming we get 13 for Barrass (and Hawks F1) we'll then have 3, 6, 12, 13, 59, 77 and still have a 1st rounder in 2025.
Alternatively, offer F1, 13, 23 for 6, 12, 20, 46. Use 20 on Baker and take to the draft 3, 6, 12, 46 & 59

That is a much better result and leaves GC with 13 for Rioli (Still overs IMO) and ample points to match for their academy kid Lombard plus drafting someone else.

If Warner did become available this year, we would be in a good place to compete with Freo, because Freo have the Bolton deal to get done... if he doesn't then we may have to rethink. Hopefully, some of our other fringe players may attract 2nd or third round picks?

 

[Cursedsword02]

The inability to get anyone in besides Liam Baker has been shambolic really. We are basically at North Melbourne levels here

"We can't bring in anyone!"

Jack Graham and Liam Baker wants to join us, the latter picking us over Freo.

"No, not like that!"