List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

Lets speculate. Most Brownlow votes - HR. Build a team around HR? Then, don't keep trading down the draft as HR needs real quality around him. All the Ginbeys under the sun will not get it done.

Look to Geelong and Collingwood as ways to build a squad. A couple of stars and a bunch of B graders. Dont need a heap of top 4 picks to make it happen, dont need a 22 like Carlton thats so top heavy

 

[Coasters7]

Do hate how the Baker trade has turned into a “marquee” sort of trade, purely through the media, when it’s far from..

If this was an uncontracted Duggan going back to Richmond (pretty much an identical comparison imo), it’d get done quietly and without fuss for a middling second or F2.

Absolutely ridiculous that we’re talking first round picks and/or splitting pick 3 to get enough draft assets and Baker.

Happy to go to the draft with what we have (post Barrass trade).

 

[squashface]

Do hate how the Baker trade has turned into a “marquee” sort of trade, purely through the media, when it’s far from..

If this was an uncontracted Duggan going back to Richmond (pretty much an identical comparison imo), it’d get done quietly and without fuss for a middling second or F2.

Absolutely ridiculous that we’re talking first round picks and/or splitting pick 3 to get enough draft assets and Baker.

Happy to go to the draft with what we have (post Barrass trade).

Did lol at a headline I saw that was something like: “How do the Eagles get their man? We unpack the potential trade” like we’re trading for a superstar mid or something

 

[RanaNaved]

If WC are in to Draper then trading back makes sense. I don't think he's in the top 8 mix tbh. The people who rate him the most highly are seemingly WC and the West Coast bigfooty folk

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Barass + f2 to Hawks for 14 + F1
14 + hawks F1 to Gold Coast 6
3 to Adel for 4 + F2

No one loses here. Westcoast go to the draft with 4,6,26,61(darling),62. Guarantee one of lalor, fos, langford or smillie and Travaglia. Getting the f2 back from Adelaide means we don't hurt next year's draft getting Hawks f1 and missing draper isn't the end of the world

Let GC pay pick 13 for rioli not 6, 6 is our baby. Baker deal can be done in the last 5 minutes of the trade period- pick 26 and we chuck in a fringe player or they can have a crack with freo


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We lose!!!

Barrass and f2 for 6. No.

Barras for 6 was what was likely touted half way through the year as the likely trade when Hawks had pick 6. Now you want to give away a F2nd as well.

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[Wooshaaaa]

If WC are in to Draper then trading back makes sense. I don't think he's in the top 8 mix tbh. The people who rate him the most highly are seemingly WC and the West Coast bigfooty folk

Crows will take him at 4. No way they pass up a local talent for the sake of a couple picks.

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[stallon]

Crows will take him at 4. No way they pass up a local talent for the sake of a couple picks.

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If they see him as a decent drop back from Langford/Jagga/FOS who would be there at their pick then why wouldnt they pass on him?
I think its a bit of the old "WA teams take local talent" thing coming through, they dont have to take the local kid

 

[TerryFilk]

If they see him as a decent drop back from Langford/Jagga/FOS who would be there at their pick then why wouldnt they pass on him?
I think its a bit of the old "WA teams take local talent" thing coming through, they dont have to take the local kid

Adelaide need a big bodied goal kicking mid more than Draper but in saying that, I could only see them passing on him for Lalor and he’ll be gone by then you’d think. Drums are starting to beat that he might go #1.

 

[bzparkes]

If they see him as a decent drop back from Langford/Jagga/FOS who would be there at their pick then why wouldnt they pass on him?
I think its a bit of the old "WA teams take local talent" thing coming through, they dont have to take the local kid

Adelaide have taken only 1 SA talent inside the top 10 in that last 15 years - Thilthorpe.

 

[RanaNaved]

Crows will take him at 4. No way they pass up a local talent for the sake of a couple picks.

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I doubt it, I think they'll go best available at 4 and I don't think Sid is that. If they did, meh, there are better player's to be had anyway

 

[Jukes]

If WC are in to Draper then trading back makes sense. I don't think he's in the top 8 mix tbh. The people who rate him the most highly are seemingly WC and the West Coast bigfooty folk

FOS
Lalor
Jagga
Langford
Smillie
Draper

All midfielders so I’d be happy with whoever’s left over at Pick 6 if that’s where we end up. Even if we “reach” a tiny bit and go TT or Tauru there I’d be equally as happy.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I suggested it on the Saints board earlier today and they were all keen.

They really want a mid and a KPP of some sort I believe, and it would secure us Travaglia plus hopefully one of the mids that slides if Tauru or something jumps up the rankings

For Saints, M Reid is perfect for them at 3 and at 14 they have choice of many KPP

Meanwhile we get TT and Berry or a slider from the top 6

 

[Elite Pete]

Best thing about that article.

Unlike what the Media and Rhino (doesnt know anymore) are saying. Pick 14 clearly isn’t locked atm for the Baker trade. Everything is still on the table

 

[mat11]

We lose!!!

Barrass and f2 for 6. No.

Barras for 6 was what was likely touted half way through the year as the likely trade when Hawks had pick 6. Now you want to give away a F2nd as well.

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We are getting Adelaide's f2 back in the scenario to cover it

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[Ghossein]

Pick 2 + Darling for Pick 3 + Darling + Hawks Pick 30.

I'm liking this approach the more I think about it

 

[BOND 007]

Nah come on, the most enjoyment we might be getting out of this period is the customary period of melting.

Regarding which, as I said, the gallery of target characters is looking a bit thin. BOND 007 you know what M.Clarke's pastry of choice is?

Not sure Mr Clarke is a pastry/pie eater. Pretty partial to the odd carrot stick and pistachio if that helps

 

[Barrybran]

Barass + f2 to Hawks for 14 + F1
14 + hawks F1 to Gold Coast 6
3 to Adel for 4 + F2

No one loses here. Westcoast go to the draft with 4,6,26,61(darling),62. Guarantee one of lalor, fos, langford or smillie and Travaglia. Getting the f2 back from Adelaide means we don't hurt next year's draft getting Hawks f1 and missing draper isn't the end of the world

Let GC pay pick 13 for rioli not 6, 6 is our baby. Baker deal can be done in the last 5 minutes of the trade period- pick 26 and we chuck in a fringe player or they can have a crack with freo


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We lose!!!

Barrass and f2 for 6. No.

Barras for 6 was what was likely touted half way through the year as the likely trade when Hawks had pick 6. Now you want to give away a F2nd as well.

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There's a pick missing from the GC trade but if we could get away with Barrass, 25 + F3 for 14, 32 + F1 (downgrade our F2 for F3 and swap seconds this year) then we could offer something like the Hawks' F1 + our F2 for 6 straight up, which would leave us with 3, 6, 14, 32, 61 plus whatever we get for Darling this year, and our F1 + F4 next year with the potential to get Adelaide's F2 per mat11's trade suggestion. None of this factors in Baker but there would be some flexibility with 3, 6 + 14 in hand.

 

[DanWCE]

Not sure Mr Clarke is a pastry/pie eater. Pretty partial to the odd carrot stick and pistachio if that helps

I thought it was the carrot OR stick approach

 

[Mattman93]

Not sure Mr Clarke is a pastry/pie eater. Pretty partial to the odd carrot stick and pistachio if that helps

Hmm, Carrot Sticks Clarke. I can work with that.

PS while you're here - please don't cough up a first rounder for Baker. Signed, literally every one of us.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Not sure Mr Clarke is a pastry/pie eater. Pretty partial to the odd carrot stick and pistachio if that helps

Crazy Vozzo and now Nutter Clarke.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Adelaide need a big bodied goal kicking mid more than Draper but in saying that, I could only see them passing on him for Lalor and he’ll be gone by then you’d think. Drums are starting to beat that he might go #1.

They think they have the big bodied mid in Curtin. They are putting his development as a midfielder.

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[Elite Pete]

We are getting Adelaide's f2 back in the scenario to cover it

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That’s going for Peatling by the looks

 

[Wooshaaaa]

We are getting Adelaide's f2 back in the scenario to cover it

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No you're not, you getting the crows F2 for compensation for sliding back in the draft in the first round and as the crows F2 will be higher than ours we slide back in the second round!! We lose again.

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[RanaNaved]

Hmm, Carrot Sticks Clarke. I can work with that.

PS while you're here - please don't cough up a first rounder for Baker. Signed, literally every one of us.

Don't know how a nobody is going to have any say in the trade bro

 

[mat11]

No you're not, you getting the crows F2 for compensation for sliding back in the draft in the first round and as the crows F2 will be higher than ours we slide back in the second round!! We lose again.

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How else do we get Hawks f1? Barass for 14 and their f1 prob requires something going back

Sliding from 3 to 4 this year isn't too bad

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