List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[eaglevision]

Or Sydney are just complete dickheads, who are poorly treating a former captain and near 300-gamer?

That depends. If Swans countered with 44 for Parker and 59 then that’s reasonable. If they counter demanding pick 22 then yes, they are being complete dickheads.

 

[Hook461123]

This!!!! He's a ****ing big bodied near 300 gamer, who is our second highest scoring forward going to a club that's been gifted first rounder picks out the ****ing ass. Club is gutless and has no third perspective.

I think of it like the Sam Mitchell trade to us, when he came here for nothing. These guys have been such good servants of the club that if they can get an extra year or two elsewhere you let them go. He’s not really worth anything. He was probably going to play wafl then retire.

 

[bzparkes]

I think of it like the Sam Mitchell trade to us, when he came here for nothing. These guys have been such good servants of the club that if they can get an extra year or two elsewhere you let them go. He’s not really worth anything. He was probably going to play wafl then retire.

Exactly.

Imagine you've given your club 300 games, tried your heart out in a GF where your peaheart teammates shit the bed, then the club refuses to let you go to your destination of choice, despite playing 2nds most of the year.

 

[WCErevival]

I love how Darling started the year at 'terrible and should consider retiring' and ended the year at 'we should have got more for him at the trade table'.

 

[eaglevision]

I think of it like the Sam Mitchell trade to us, when he came here for nothing. These guys have been such good servants of the club that if they can get an extra year or two elsewhere you let them go. He’s not really worth anything. He was probably going to play wafl then retire.

Exactly.

Imagine you've given your club 300 games, tried your heart out in a GF where your peaheart teammates shit the bed, then the club refuses to let you go to your destination of choice, despite playing 2nds most of the year.

Take your points but it’s also pretty hard to run a footy club when blokes are tying to opt out of contracts, regardless of whether they are B22 or depth. Signing a long contract comes with risk for both parties but if an exit can be agreed to that suits both player and club then great.

 

[sey666]

We finally have an A grader who wants out. Trading away whatever we get for him to another team for one of their OOC players makes no sense especially when we are rebuilding. Get as much as we can for Barrass and pay as little as possible for Baker. Keep pick 3 (or split it into 2 top 10 picks) and hold on to the Barrass pick/s. JTB in the PSD and win the trade week.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

I love how Darling started the year at 'terrible and should consider retiring' and ended the year at 'we should have got more for him at the trade table'.

And none of that was based on considerable performance. His pressure inside 50 was good, and he had one great game and a few other decent ones. Was solid enough. He started with a creeping feeling with the rise of a Waterman breakout, Oscar back & a young Williams improving steadily that he was moving a bit down the order. Very true.

He ended the year with a 2yr deal and a trigger for a 3rd and saying he might kick 50. Definitely more valuable currently in their setup at least on paper. It’d be pretty funny if he does! Could be the final twist in the tale

 

[Hook461123]

Take your points but it’s also pretty hard to run a footy club when blokes are tying to opt out of contracts, regardless of whether they are B22 or depth. Signing a long contract comes with risk for both parties but if an exit can be agreed to that suits both player and club then great.

I think that’s what we did. We got cap space and a late pick for a Champion bid. Don’t think he’s worth much more than that.

 

[such is ben]

I feel the board is lacking a bit on new “reliable” intel. Going round in circles

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I think we need Baker to make a scene now

 

[juddy_Like]

Getting the feeling Richmond are going to either fold late, or hold onto at least one of Rioli or Bolton.

Doubt Freo cave and Richmond are going to have to give up something good for pick 2/3 that they apparently seem desperate for.

Yep fk the Tigers.

Let’s remember these are the same carnts playing the “good faith” card when they were risking losing an uncontracted Callum Coleman Jones (lol I know but still) for nothing to North.

North could and probably should have picked him up in the pre season draft for nothing but instead handed over an early second rounder.

 

[new breed]

Freo won't fold ....

 

[archiemoses]

+1 to bedwetters

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

I think we need Baler to make a scene now

Wouldn't mind hearing some thoughts from Hay Clark.

 

[FKASC]

The best part about all of this is that pick 14 vs Baker will be tracked and debated for many years to come.

Can’t wait. Revive the SPP tears thread!

 

[THE A5]

Trade period should start a week after FA starts but only go on for 2-3 days. The clubs/recruiting teams would have close two week prior to get all the dealings done.

 

[Obeanie1]

I'd rather give midfield minutes to Hutchinson/Hall. Dev blew his chance. His best bet would be trying to get to Richmond now.

Yeo - half back rotation
Reid tick
Tk - tick
Hewett - restricted minutes as mid, foot issue
Hutchinson - 1 good game, unproven
Pick 3 - becomes 6, slides to 8 pick Travagalia
Baker - half back
Graham - tick as quality depth
Hall - raw unproven
Dev -------- 10th in line?
Sheed - cant feel his foot, retires end 2025
Culley - may be traded. Is more a HFF pinch hitter

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Is that really midfield depth?

 

[Bender_]

Trade period should start a week after FA starts but only go on for 2-3 days. The clubs/recruiting teams would have close two week prior to get all the dealings done.

It used to be 4 days, right? Then clubs started complaining it wasn't long enough to get deals done so they stretched it out to 2, and now it's too long coz campaigners be procrastinating.

 

[Bender_]

Wouldn't mind hearing some thoughts from Hay Clark.

James Braystraw has been pretty vocal on the subject.

 

[Obeanie1]

The best part about all of this is that pick 14 vs Baker will be tracked and debated for many years to come.

What if it isnt traded?

 

[THE A5]

It used to be 4 days, right? Then clubs started complaining it wasn't long enough to get deals done so they stretched it out to 2, and now it's too long coz campaigners be procrastinating.

I actually can’t see how they have a problem if they are allowed two weeks to deal with each other leading up to a two day period. Drafts in late Nov too so they don’t even have to have fa/trade period straight away. Perhaps push everything back till mid October and just have a two day window to get it done

 

[Barrybran]

We could take advantage of the stalemate and grease the wheels for other trades

3 + 26 to GCS for 6 + 13

Barrass to Hawthorn for 14 + 33 (they trade their F2 to GCS for 41 to stay in the second round)

F2 to Richmond for Baker

Leaves us with 6, 13, 14, 33, 62, 67 + Baker

GCS flips 3 to Richmond for Rioli + F2

 

[Astro7]

And none of that was based on considerable performance. His pressure inside 50 was good, and he had one great game and a few other decent ones. Was solid enough. He started with a creeping feeling with the rise of a Waterman breakout, Oscar back & a young Williams improving steadily that he was moving a bit down the order. Very true.

He ended the year with a 2yr deal and a trigger for a 3rd and saying he might kick 50. Definitely more valuable currently in their setup at least on paper. It’d be pretty funny if he does! Could be the final twist in the tale

They said they would use him differently or a different role...but he was also slowing down...getting dropped would've been a little humiliating and a red flag for him re future.

 

[eaglevision]

We could take advantage of the stalemate and grease the wheels for other trades

3 + 26 to GCS for 6 + 13

Barrass to Hawthorn for 14 + 33 (they trade their F2 to GCS for 41 to stay in the second round)

F2 to Richmond for Baker

Leaves us with 6, 13, 14, 33, 62, 67 + Baker

GCS flips 3 to Richmond for Rioli + F2

Don’t think the pick 13 stalemate will go on. Port, Pies, GCS will get a deal done, something like

GCS OUT: 13, Lukosius
GCS IN: Noble, F1 (COLL), F1 (PORT)

PORT OUT: Houston, F1
PORT IN: 13, Lukosius, Richards

COLL OUT: F1, Noble, Richards
COLL IN: Houston

I would love a pick 6 stalemate where tigers refuse to straight swap Rioli. Would go in with F1 for 6 and 23. Would love to include Liam Ryan and they can keep 23 but have their F1 coming back.

 

[Barrybran]

Don’t think the pick 13 stalemate will go on. Port, Pies, GCS will get a deal done, something like

GCS OUT: 13, Lukosius
GCS IN: Noble, F1 (COLL), F1 (PORT)

PORT OUT: Houston, F1
PORT IN: 13, Lukosius, Richards

COLL OUT: F1, Noble, Richards
COLL IN: Houston

I would love a pick 6 stalemate where tigers refuse to straight swap Rioli. Would go in with F1 for 6 and 23. Would love to include Liam Ryan and they can keep 23 but have their F1 coming back.

Fair point re 13. We could also do 3, 26 + 67 for 6, 23 + 41 if we wanted to hold our F1.