List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
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  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Lazzas]

Above Richmond? So we've brought in players to teach our guys how to win from one of the only teams who won less than us this year...genius take

No they have bought in Player's who set high standards and full an age list profile. Baker is elite in a lot of stars and his mate is a free hit.

Your saying that player's from team's down the ladder don't know what is required to win in an afl system. Teams can get stuck In a rut of loosing, West Coast are. Your saying player's like McGovern, Yeo, Harley and Baker must not know what it takes to win because they are in teams at the bottom of the ladder.

 

[Barrybran]

Hilarious and scary thing Is we actually have our team.

FB : Hunt, H.Edwards. Hough
HB: Ginbey, McGovern, Duggan
C: Baker, Yeo, Cole
HF: Ryan, Allen, Hutchison
FF: Owies, Waterman, J.Williams
R: Flynn, Kelly, Reid
I/C : Long, Graham, B.Williams, Hewett
EMG : Bazzo, Chesser, Maric, Johnston

Wow….

This is what a lot of people have overlooked about the state of our list. The best 18 is there already. Some need time but they're not going back to the WAFL. It's the bench players that aren't up to AFL standard due to age or ability that come on the field and break a chain or don't know where to be or are a touch too slow for the level. We will now have the "luxury" of playing such players at WAFL level and making them earn their way into the AFL side, something we couldn't say two years ago.

I'd love to have a top 6-8 pick this draft to go along with 12 but the reality is that one or both of those players would be coming via the WAFL (not a bad thing) because we now have an AFL standard team. Still not a very good one but the bones are there.

 

[JDWCE]

It’s a shame it will become pick 14 on the night after the Ashcroft and Kako bids…

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You’re forgetting the Lombard bid. So pick 15

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The biggest tragedy from all this is that our 2024 draft hand is absolutely putrid.
We only have 12, 26 & 73. Plus Baker & Owies.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but we could have had 3, 26, 33*, 63 & 68. Plus Baker.
No idea who if pick 33 was ever on the table though.
It sickens me that we have only 2 usable picks, plus a late pick to perhaps match a bid on Champion.

 

[Godfather32]

No they have bought in Player's who set high standards and full an age list profile. Baker is elite in a lot of stars and his mate is a free hit.

Your saying that player's from team's down the ladder don't know what is required to win in an afl system. Teams can get stuck In a rut of loosing, West Coast are. Your saying player's like McGovern, Yeo, Harley and Baker must not know what it takes to win because they are in teams at the bottom of the ladder.

I'm not saying that...but then why do we need to overpay to bring players in that know what it takes to win when you've just listed 3 from our team that "know how to win"

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

What i or other supporters believe Baker is worth is irrelevant really. For the record I’ve said numerous times he’s worth a late first early second pick in my opinion but clearly the price was set by the market.

Pick 14 wasn’t overs. The price was set by Freo by offering pick 11 as mentioned by many in the media. Freo have been circling in the last few days and were going public saying they are interested in Baker if the deal with the Eagles fell over.

On top of that Clarke had already let us know what Bakers worth was in his press conference at the start of trade week which would have been set by Freo offering up pick 11. We needed to get somewhere around that pick to make the deal happen, if anything the Tigers could argue they accepted unders in the deal because pick 11 was on the table.

I’m personally not upset with the pick for Baker I’m just furious that the best deal we could get for pick 3 was 12 & Baker or that another way wasn’t found to unlock the Baker trade. Taking the club spin out of it pick 3 is a sweet spot in any draft not pick 12. It was incompetence from a first year list manager that needed to swim but sank in his first trade week.

Freo muddied the waters, as they knew he wanted us and only us. I think that pick 11 was BS for what it's worth. Through the media it sounds like 10, 11, 18 for Bolton n Baker, which is the headline. In reality freo would've been asking for something back, 100%.

Every trade has a sliding scale and for Baker it was 11 to 24. Pick 11 is massive overs and 24 unders. 18 or 19 was about spot on. We gave up 14 for an uncontracted player which for me sits in overs.
Asking for 41 and 51 should've happened as a minimum.

If this is how we target an out of contract player, I'm confident we'll certainly pay overs for Warner if it happens. Worst thing is Sydney now know how to play this one...

 

[larrikin]

Think team will do that but it’s a 50/50 call I feel

In any case Pyke and co think that team is competing for finals….. Crazy

My lordy you are full of shit.

 

[amazingjoshy]

After tomorrow Richmond could (and probably will) have 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24

Now they'll probably package up picks to move up but you think with all Clarke's "goodwill" there might be a chance to trade back in somewhere there

 

[Godfather32]

The biggest tragedy from all this is that our 2024 draft hand is absolutely putrid.
We only have 12, 26 & 73. Plus Baker & Owies.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but we could have had 3, 26, 33*, 63 & 68. Plus Baker.
No idea who if pick 33 was ever on the table though.
It sickens me that we have only 2 usable picks, plus a late pick to perhaps match a bid on Champion.

I'm not going to lie, it's going to take a lot from here for us to win trade week this year

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Silver lining in all this mess (and it may have been mentioned before in the thread) but Pyke in his interview (here) did say:
"and we'll now do work to close the Barrass deal and hopefully get ourselves back into this draft in some form or fashion, either in the top 10, or in the 10-20 range to give us those three picks that we want for this year to keep bringing talent on to our list".

Although it's not great to broadcast your intentions in this regard I guess we'll see if anything can be salvaged tomorrow and we gain another first rounder back into this draft.
Otherwise our third pick will be pick 73 (which will come in a bit when picks are absorbed through matching trades).

Can you tell Tobie to tell all recruiters 'only West Coast'.

 

[CountryLad]

Freo

Freo muddied the waters, as they knew he wanted us and only us. I think that pick 11 was BS for what it's worth. Through the media it sounds like 10, 11, 18 for Bolton n Baker, which is the headline. In reality freo would've been asking for something back, 100%.

Every trade has a sliding scale and for Baker it was 11 to 24. Pick 11 is massive overs and 24 unders. 18 or 19 was about spot on. We gave up 14 for an uncontracted player which for me sits in overs.
Asking for 41 and 51 should've happened as a minimum.

If this is how we target an out of contract player, I'm confident we'll certainly pay overs for Warner if it happens. Worst thing is Sydney now know how to play this one...

Freo will 100% be in play for Warner so it’s going to cost plenty.

 

[Yeahnahmate]

No they have bought in Player's who set high standards and full an age list profile. Baker is elite in a lot of stars and his mate is a free hit.

Your saying that player's from team's down the ladder don't know what is required to win in an afl system. Teams can get stuck In a rut of loosing, West Coast are. Your saying player's like McGovern, Yeo, Harley and Baker must not know what it takes to win because they are in teams at the bottom of the ladder.

Difficult read. You could have just said they were premiership players but you really went the scenic route

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

My lordy you are full of shit.

You think we signed 3 27 year olds with the plan of finishing in the bottom 3 ?

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

So your saying we can turn 3 into 15, pick a Rioli and then turn that into 6 which means we will only have slid back 3 spots for a then 34 yr old Baker.

Whohooooo

Matt Clarke has guaranteed it as shown in the Gif below.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Hello.



I'm Dumb Puke. And this is a recorded message regarding the current financial status of our club.


I bad want money now. Me sick.


Please send funds via Crypto.



Kind regards.


Dom


dial tone

Why did I read this in Jeff Winger's voice?

 

[KERRPOW]

I have a hunch, given we have worked in "good faith" with Richmond, im sure the contingency was on them accepting the deal of picks 10 and 18 for Bolton, given that Freo doesn't pick the WA player?

This is the only different perspective that I can come up with to justify the shit show.

No chance.

Freo fkd us over with the baker trade like they did with the kelly one.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

That's some ugly reading except rioli is worth pick 6 and 23 apparently

Zac Bailey, Cody Weightman and Jordan Clark aren't bad either. Sure we will miss pick 3 whoever that ends up being. But listening to the whole Pyke interview it makes sense. As long as we get 2 Future 1st rounders next year. Just trying to be a optimist in a sea of misery.

 

[Barrybran]

After tomorrow Richmond could (and probably will) have 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24

Now they'll probably package up picks to move up but you think with all Clarke's "goodwill" there might be a chance to trade back in somewhere there

If we do trade back in with Richmond I hope it is something like our F3 for 51 or something like that. I'd rather not be doing something stupid like giving up our F1 unless it is going to be for overs and at least one pick is better than 12.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If Clarke seriously tied his entire strategy this year around ‘luring’ Jack Graham

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Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

and Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the club from his previous long term employer - to the point where we were ‘stuck’ with an alarming ‘if you don’t pay for Baker then you won’t get Graham’ scenario then he should be sacked tonight for a clear conflict of interest. That is beyond ridiculous and shows they have clearly made a terrible decision in hiring him.

Pyke goes too for seemingly signing off on it and then using it as some kind of demented justification.

Reid is gone btw - there is no coming back from this - those idiots will not convince him to stay.

Hell, he’ll probably be gift wrapped for Richmond on current form.

This is the black hole people.

 

[eaglespremiers]

If we do trade back in with Richmond I hope it is something like our F3 for 51 or something like that. I'd rather not be doing something stupid like giving up our F1 unless it is going to be for overs and at least one pick is better than 12.

Pyke indicated that we are after a top 10 pick, so probably not pick 51.

 

[Lazzas]

I'm not saying that...but then why do we need to overpay to bring players in that know what it takes to win when you've just listed 3 from our team that "know how to win"

The overpaying that's something I agree with you on.

I listed three obvious players you could put them in any side they would make the side better.

West Coast have a lot of players that just don't turn up week after week.

The point of my post was perhaps the Eagles want to get the team going again. Bring back winning traits so we don't have to watch the horrendous crap.

I agree though they gave up too much.

 

[ghostbat12]

After tomorrow Richmond could (and probably will) have 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24

Now they'll probably package up picks to move up but you think with all Clarke's "goodwill" there might be a chance to trade back in somewhere there

They need to find at least another baker, Rioli and Bolton just to stand still. Good start with picks but at 50% hit rate, they could burn 10-24 and be where they started.

But have to start somewhere. At least they are doing what we didn’t do and stop giving credits and then try and trade them when there are a few years left.

 

[Barrybran]

Pyke indicated that we are after a top 10 pick, so probably not pick 51.

Yeah I did see that

 

[Godfather32]

The overpaying that's something I agree with you on.

I listed three obvious players you could put them in any side they would make the side better.

West Coast have a lot of players that just don't turn up week after week.

The point of my post was perhaps the Eagles want to get the team going again. Bring back winning traits so we don't have to watch the horrendous crap.

I agree though they gave up too much.

I just don't see them as helping us win many games, I think we'll still be as shit next year as we were this year.
Hopefully I'm wrong though

 

[rebel23]

We should keep TB now since it's obvious we aren't 'rebuilding'... Unless we get 2 first rounders... Which is overs

The strategy is fine I guess... But then we should go out and acquire a semi decent ruckman... And a winger..

Most other pieces we have... See what we can do with pick 12.

This opinion is because of what we did today... Which is just weird