List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Cainozz]

The more I think about Warner the less keen I’m on him for us to sell the farm for. I feel like it’s the Kelly trade 2.0. Can we just go to the draft and get that top end talent anyway. Sick of us going after the messiah.

 

[Astro7]

The one part of Nisbett's era as the years went on was the invulnerability to criticism.
Pyke was supposed to herald a new, open era.

We'll see if this just blows over or not. I suspect the resentment will linger, and the club will be surprised by it.

Maybe a needed reality check for Pyke and head office? Before trade week, I was already sceptical of the new happy positive 'gloss and spin' that was being churned out by the Eagles propaganda machine. I understand the need to distance itself from a negative build-up after years of bad form, but let's just keep it real folks...and transparent.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

No.

We obviously retain picks to go to the draft with.

Retain the Barrass picks.

Use a blend of these and a blend of future picks to land Warner and retain picks for the draft.

If we held pock 3 again Swans would demand pick 3 in any trade.

If we bring pick 3 forward we get the benefit now. Not in 12 months when it gets gobbled up trading.

You tell Sydney pick 3 is off limits and offer, if we get it, hawks and Carlton 2025 R1 or a trade up of both of these picks for a top ten pick and offer it along with our F1 (2026). If that price is not enough he costs too much and you go to the draft with your picks and apologise to the player and say we made the highest offer the club saw reasonable but weren’t able to facilitate an acceptable deal.

You then bring in Fred Rodriguez and likely trade your two firsts up higher so they’re not at risk of bids and draft an immense hand in 2025 with two top ten picks and a bunch of talented WA academy kids with NGA bids.

The rebuild was delayed, it’s now trying to be shortcut sooner or later we’re going to have to utilise premium draft capital efficiently.

 

[Astro7]

It's like when I go to my 'special' club in Northbridge.

 

[Elite Pete]

Gotta hope we have a deal with Richmond 11 for Hawks F1 and F2

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I never said he wont turn out good. I just dont think he fills a list need. I mean 2 posts ago you spoke of ball movement, hard running and Bo Allan isnt that type of player. He will be good, but it wont solve that ball movement issue.

I also feel sorry for the kid. He will be burdened with unrealistic expectations like the above. He shouldnt have the pressure of being the next Patrick Cripps. He should be allowed to grow into his career without that absurd comparison. Its why we need to be going in with multiple 1st rounders and not just 1 egg in the basket

You’re talking about ball movement to yourself.
Why would you feel sorry for a kid about to realise his AFL dream?
No one has compared him to Patrick Cripps.
Honestly mate you need to think before you type.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Gotta hope we have a deal with Richmond 11 for Hawks F1 and F2

Jeez Freo paid a heap there!

 

[Astro7]

How is Hewett tracking? anyone?

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Was tracking well when last seen, has a new AI chromium supersonic foot attached, humming and buzzing along, learning to keep it under control...

 

[Dylan82]

Gotta hope we have a deal with Richmond 11 for Hawks F1 and F2

Moves Fremantle's pick behind ours now at least if there is a target the club is after.

 

[mitchzz]

Gotta hope we have a deal with Richmond 11 for Hawks F1 and F2

Welcome to West Coast, Bo Allen lawl

Freo picking before us was our only hope

 

[mitchzz]

Time for Clarkey to make a deal with his pals at Richmond and get us some more first round picks this year

 

[DorothyG]

Jeez Freo paid a heap there!

And we think we over payed for Baker

 

[twce13]

Gotta hope we have a deal with Richmond 11 for Hawks F1 and F2

I actually reckon we should trade out our future first to tigers and get a better deal... 10 and 18 for example. They will still have 1 6 11 20 lol, so I think a potential top 3 pick in 2025 may be appealing.

Now before I get blasted, I'm basing this on the fact that we go for warner next year and if we've learnt anything, fair value goes out the window and when push comes to shove, what you have will suffice. The key is to get warner to nominate us and I think the Harley appeal mentioned here helps with that.

Let's get maximum value for this year and then we can give Sydney hawks 1 and out F1 and whatever sweetener next year.

This year 10 12 18 and 26.
Next year warner.

Rebuild is back on the menu lads.

 

[twce13]

Moves Fremantle's pick behind ours now at least if there is a target the club is after.

Bo allen odds just increased

 

[Altum Volantes]

How is Hewett tracking? anyone?

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He’s great!

He’s off to Melbourne to meet with a ballet physio!

Young Eagle to consult with ballet physio to manage foot injury

Sounds a bit whacky but it just might work!

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Jack Graham came because Baker was coming with the link of McQualter.

Some people are just up for the adventure, and there's no reason we can't try and get those outside the profile - but we need to accept that, based on geography, we can't just get anyone we want. Some just have no desire or reason to, even if the salary permitted it.

Baker sure isn't our core need, an undersized flanker, but he is a good player well above what we have now to call from. I have no issue with taking Liam Baker at all, it's just the price and context that irks me.

That Jack Graham comment re Baker, is that your opinion or do you have any facts to back that up? Previously we have picked up players that didn't have any connection to Perth, see Hunt, Witherden and Redden. We had players linked to our coach, Petrie and Mitchell.

I've never heard of a player leaving a club that wanted to keep them and relocating their family to a new city they are unfamiliar with because their friend was also being recruited.

The Baker comment at the end is bit superfluous. I have no issue with buying a Mercedes but I've got rent to pay so it's not the right time.

I don't think anyone has an issue with picking up Baker, even his price if it was the right time. The question is he the right pick up for us given his price and our current context and priorities.

 

[Astro7]

I'm happy to wait and see what actually happens...

 

[amazingjoshy]

Time for Clarkey to make a deal with his pals at Richmond and get us some more first round picks this year

I reckon this will happen, but more likely closer, or on draft night

 

[Obeanie1]

With pick 12 I'm worried it's outside the zone I really rate and gets into the pretty good zone. Phil mentioned still in the zone for players we want, I'm a tad dubious of that.

From early post I'm removing Trainor as I think he's still on the board and I wouldn't take him at 12. In no particular order, I'd want one of the following list;

1. Jagga
2. Draper
3. Reid
4. Fos
5. Smillie
6. Reid
7. Travaglia
8. Allen
9. Langford
10. Lalor

Tauru I really like and happy with him at 12, but think he's gone too. I'd take the above list just ahead of him.

So who does that put at 12;

Hotton, easily the best option but flight risk.
Berry, very sound option here but do we now have too many that play similarly to him.
Lindsay, ideally for me I'd like a better more reliable kick for an outside mid.
Hynes, I see heaps of upside as he's got the powerful core and great skills.
Armstrong and Shanahan but are both a low need for us. Hopefully they got before our pick so someone slides.

I'm also really worried we've lost the points to match Champion.

Picks in the late 60's don't mean much.....except to Geelong recruiters of course.

We will still get Champion no matter what.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Jeez Freo paid a heap there!

Richmond covering some of his wages.

 

[EagleEgo]

Jeez Freo paid a heap there!

This is the issue both West Australian clubs need to address. Bolton, Baker, Chad Warner, Nick Martin are all picked by Eastern State clubs with low picks. They costed (or will cost) us a lot to bring them back to WA.
Are we losing the ability to "seek" the local talents?

 

[Obeanie1]

Not sure how selling the farm for Warner next year solves the issues. The cupboard in the middle in bare. Club needs mids, lot's of them and good quality ones.

Like a 24 year old Warner perhaps?

Seriously have people literally lost their minds.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Can only see the below deal getting us to 11

Hawks F1st + F2nd + our future 2nd for Pick 11 + Tigers F3rd

I think the Hawks stuff only wont cut it

 

[swingdog]

I'm happy to wait and see what actually happens...

What are you, some kind of monster?

 

[Altum Volantes]

That Jack Graham comment re Baker, is that your opinion or do you have any facts to back that up? Previously we have picked up players that didn't have any connection to Perth, see Hunt, Witherden and Redden. We had players linked to our coach, Petrie and Mitchell. I've never heard of a player requesting a trade and relocating their family because their friend was also being recruited.

The Baker comment at the end is bit superfluous. I have no issue with buying a Mercedes but I've got rent to pay so it's not the right time.

I don't think anyone has an issue with picking up Baker, even his price if it was the right time. The question is he the right pick up for us given his price and our current context and priorities.

It’s a Chris Tarrant-Dean Solomon type scenario where you buy a temperamental race horse but also need to take it’s billy goat stable mate to keep it happy.

Tim Kelly-Jamaine Jones or Harley Reid-The Milk Guy are perhaps more recent examples.

Only issue with this one is that the race horse is a Shetland pony.