List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

So Warner is ultimate trade prize and we are competing against the purples who have a better draft hand, interesting.

But they're using those for Bolton as well.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

So what are we getting for Darling? What flavour chips?

 

[KERRPOW]

I know he’s injury prone, but at least he’s a beast when he plays

We dont need another proven injury prone player

 

[Happy Mastenator]

**** off all of you. Just take Sid Draper. I don't want theoretical potential, injury issues. Just give me the guy who wins the ball all day, and makes things happen at every single level he's played.

 

[ghostbat12]

So Warner is ultimate trade prize and we are competing against the purples who have a better draft hand, interesting.

It’s not clear how they would put serong brayshaw young and Warner under same salary cap. Add in Bolton.

Either the rest don’t like money or they completely have blinkers on. Brayshaw is free agent next year and will get warner-like offers. They would have to lose players and then comes back to typical Freo show.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Anyone know Xavier Lindsay kicking efficiency stats? For the type of player he is, looks quite 50/50 that he hits targets.

 

[eaglevision]

Anyone know Xavier Lindsay kicking efficiency stats? For the type of player he is, looks quite 50/50 that he hits targets

I don’t have stats but he’s a very good, penetrating kick. One area I feel he can improve is that knowing he is a good kick he sometimes bites off more than he can chew. There’s a few good examples of this in noobermensch champs videos.

When it comes off it looks sublime but sometimes results in a turnover. Lewis Jetta used to do the same despite being one of the best kicks. Lindsay is the Gippsland captain and by all accounts he’s very coachable so once he learns the time to take on the dangerous kick I don’t think this will be a concern in the medium or long term.

 

[noobermensch]

I don’t have stats but he’s a very good, penetrating kick. One area I feel he can improve is that knowing he is a good kick he sometimes bites off more than he can chew. There’s a few good examples of this in noobermensch champs videos.

When it comes off it looks sublime but sometimes results in a turnover. Lewis Jetta used to do the same despite being one of the best kicks. Lindsay is the Gippsland captain and by all accounts he’s very coachable so once he learns the time to take on the dangerous kick I don’t think this will be a concern in the medium or long term.

No shade to Eastcoasteagle, just talking in generalities here.

I think people are tricked/biased by watching predominantly AFL which is played in huge stadiums that block 90% of the wind or even block out all external conditions altogether (docklands). These kids play in all sorts... most commonly heavy breeze, but also rain or at least heavy rain drenched tracks and waterlogged footys etc.

The other thing is they're not kicking to Charlie Curnow out there. They're kicking to young and inexperienced forward who more often than not lack the game awareness to anticipate the flight of the ball or body size to hold off an opponent, or even lack the forward craft or foot speed to get out on the lead and create a good option for a ball carrier.

There are a lot of reasons why disposal efficiency at junior level is a lot lower across the board, even for the really elite kicks. Xavier is an excellent kick to my mind, one of the best in the draft.

 

[eaglevision]

No shade to Eastcoasteagle, just talking in generalities here.

I think people are tricked/biased by watching predominantly AFL which is played in huge stadiums that block 90% of the wind or even block out all external conditions altogether (docklands). These kids play in all sorts... most commonly heavy breeze, but also rain or at least heavy rain drenched tracks and waterlogged footys etc.

The other thing is they're not kicking to Charlie Curnow out there. They're kicking to young and inexperienced forward who more often than not lack the game awareness to anticipate the flight of the ball or body size to hold off an opponent, or even lack the forward craft or foot speed to get out on the lead and create a good option for a ball carrier.

There are a lot of reasons why disposal efficiency at junior level is a lot lower across the board, even for the really elite kicks. Xavier is an excellent kick to my mind, one of the best in the draft.

Very well put. I have no criticism of his technique, penetration or accuracy. Just needs to develop the knowledge of when to take on the difficult kick and when to kick within himself at AFL level but his kicking is attacking and line breaking. If you had a 2024 draftee kicking for your life Lindsay would be someone you’d be happy with ball in hand.

 

[CountryLad]

So Petrucca didn’t attend the Dees F&B.

I’m going to wait for someone to now say “where there’s……..”

 

[Rowan18]

I know he’s injury prone, but at least he’s a beast when he plays

What an uninspiring career. Guy was so highly rated but kept going to clubs who already had good rucks. I can't believe he's done about 10 years on lists for about 20 games.

 

[FKASC]

What an uninspiring career. Guy was so highly rated but kept going to clubs who already had good rucks. I can't believe he's done about 10 years on lists for about 20 games.

Not sure he was ever that highly rated. Had a fun name to say though

 

[FKASC]

Lewis Jetta used to do the same despite being one of the best kicks.

Never forget Jetta > Yeo out of nowhere

 

[Art OF war]

No shade to Eastcoasteagle, just talking in generalities here.

I think people are tricked/biased by watching predominantly AFL which is played in huge stadiums that block 90% of the wind or even block out all external conditions altogether (docklands). These kids play in all sorts... most commonly heavy breeze, but also rain or at least heavy rain drenched tracks and waterlogged footys etc.

The other thing is they're not kicking to Charlie Curnow out there. They're kicking to young and inexperienced forward who more often than not lack the game awareness to anticipate the flight of the ball or body size to hold off an opponent, or even lack the forward craft or foot speed to get out on the lead and create a good option for a ball carrier.

There are a lot of reasons why disposal efficiency at junior level is a lot lower across the board, even for the really elite kicks. Xavier is an excellent kick to my mind, one of the best in the draft.

Eastcoasteagle is "under notice"

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Never forget Jetta > Yeo out of nowhere

Probably the single greatest pass I've ever seen.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Never forget Jetta > Yeo out of nowhere

1:54. Never seen anything like it.

 

[Astro35]

Never forget Jetta > Yeo out of nowhere

Man, just the vision and putting the ball to the right spot. Legendary!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The drop off from Jetta and Hurn off half back to whatever we have now, has been significant....

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Draper for me.he operates real well in tight and that is so important in todays game

Yep our midfield and ball winning ability is where we need to add strength too.

We are currently relying on 31 year old yeo , 30 year old Kelly and 19 year old Reid. All of which are not elite runners or only 1 way runners .

Pick 3 draiper is genuine 2 way running ball winning mid .

We need to address this far more than HBF like TT who would be nice but not necessary ATM

 

[Spooky17]

Yep our midfield and ball winning ability is where we need to add strength too.

We are currently relying on 31 year old yeo , 30 year old Kelly and 19 year old Reid. All of which are not elite runners or only 1 way runners .

Pick 3 draiper is genuine 2 way running ball winning mid .

We need to address this far more than HBF like TT who would be nice but not necessary ATM

JTD

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Probably the single greatest pass I've ever seen.

Ditto. I was sitting in a direct line from Jetta to Yeo and I still had no idea where that kick was going until it hit Yeo on the nipple.

 

[beagles]

Don't get all the Draper zealots on this post. He’s OK but there 6 other mids with very good traits.

IMO...FOS, Ried & Smith are similar in size and have better skills. It's a very even top 6.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Probably the single greatest pass I've ever seen.

I was convinced he'd stuffed it until suddenly Yeo.

 

[mattyc75]

JTD

Just trade darling?

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[Ambrose Burnside]

I was convinced he'd stuffed it until suddenly Yeo.

I reckon I'd groan and throw my hands in the air in exasperation with 100% of Jetta's kicks only to look like a right dumb arse after 90% of them hit a target I couldn't see. Extraordinary vision.