List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Eastcoasteagle]

Got to say, some of the proposed trades for Barrass were ott.

If Sydney were trading for Barrass, my opinion is their first round pick would be sufficient.


As for Sydney’s academy prospects for this year, they don’t appear to have any high kids. The best looks to be Indi Kirk, who is an over ager, and probably a late pick or rookie pick.

Caiden Clearly is their best academy, 25-40 range. Handy player.

 

[Forward Press]

Barass and pay some of his wages for 2 years for Warner & Sheldrick?

Would do that in a heartbeat but no way Sydney would take that offer as it stands.

 

[DanWCE]

Would do that in a heartbeat but no way Sydney would take that offer as it stands.

Agreed. They'd prefer to trade picks over players if shooting for a premiership

 

[Hawks_4478]

The thing about houses is they are a pretty good investment, whether you're living in them or not.

Good point. I wouldn’t be leaving if I was in TBs position though. Done very well for himself.

 

[Hook461123]

I think Barrass is an important player for us. We don’t have too many players in that middle age range to help bring through the young guys. Pass on their knowledge and be the onfield leaders.
Barrass showed last year he is capable of leading the defence.

Him, Allan and Duggan seem to be the next generation leadership.
To replace Gov, Shuey and Hurn.

Plus we are really light on for Full Backs. Not sold on Hedwards

 

[freo1]

If true, i think trading Barras is a great idea for your club. He's your best trade bait for sure - the others are un-tradable (Kelly, Allen etc).

Cant see TB being a part of your next flag at his age so get some good picks for him and offload some salary. I can't see Sydney offloading Warner or any Key Position players but definitely a mid to late first round pick would be great and maybe a second rounder in there too.

Bit of a Hawthorn type trade focus would be good.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I have a top 2, then a group of 5, then a group of 7-10, then a group of 15 or so, then a group of 40.

That's my draft board at the moment. So to me You have Reid and Walter, then a drop off which includes mckercher, caddy, duursma, curtin and watson, then a group of 7-10 with a few who could drop to the lower group and 1-2 who could join the above group of 5 and then of that group of 15 there are a couple that could reach as high as the top 5 but are most likely depending on club preference 17-35 then draftable talent depending on club preference all the way out to pick 75.

So in this draft it depends on how many picks in each tier. If you could turn 22,26 and 35 into pick 7 I would do it. If you could turn it into pick 12 then I wouldn't.

So as it stands I would prefer 22,26 and 35 over say pick 9. (say GC pick) 1,7,19,22,26,35 would leave me ecstatic. Even if it means reaching a touch on 35 to secure a specific player who could between just before 40 meaning we couldn't match.

If Watson was 185cm + 85kgs , where would you have him in this draft? (And rate overall)
Pie in the sky stuff I know but I really don't think size matters like it used to in this league. Rules if anything are starting to favour the smaller guys. (Dick jokes/sex life)

 

[Haggas]

Gems from the Port board.

Cmon. FFS.

Georgiadis is rated a lot higher than Barnett mate. Hence why your Eagles are so high in him and Robbo will do anything at the trade table


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[CountryLad]

Yeah but what golf club is he a member of?

Royal Sydney

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Georgiadis is rated a lot higher than Barnett mate. Hence why your Eagles are so high in him and Robbo will do anything at the trade tableView attachment 1712710


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We have seen nothing of Barnett yet! Reports have him with a high ceiling.
Georgiadis has a bung knee,couldn’t get a permanent gig at Port,takes the odd screamer,shit kick for goal doesn’t chase and tackle.
Mmmmmm?

 

[WCErevival]

Georgiadis and a pick for multiple AA winning wingman Andrew Gaff

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Andrew Gaff

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.6

5star

K

15.9

5star

HB

10.7

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.5

5star

K

15.6

5star

HB

8.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

CL

2.5

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

0.6

3star

would be a good trade for Port.

 

[bzparkes]

Georgiadis is rated a lot higher than Barnett mate. Hence why your Eagles are so high in him and Robbo will do anything at the trade tableView attachment 1712710


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WCE don't need to do anything other than pick him up for free in the PSD.

Maybe a token late pick we weren't going to use, for good faith.

 

[UseR2006]

Premierships?

He's already got one of them.
Which is why he'd cost more and why he probably wouldn't leave to chase more.

 

[Mop]

Georgiadis is rated a lot higher than Barnett mate. Hence why your Eagles are so high in him and Robbo will do anything at the trade tableView attachment 1712710


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We. Can. Get. Him. For. Nothing.

What’s so hard for you to fathom there?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

WCE don't need to do anything other than pick him up for free in the PSD.

Maybe a token late pick we weren't going to use, for good faith.

Pick 38 for Pick 39 and Mitch Georgiades seems fair to me if not overs

 

[briztoon]

Sydney currently hold pick 6 as the ladder stands which could become pick 8 if McKay and Himmelberg both generate first round FA compo picks

Barrass has the ability to be a multi-year AA defender at Sydney and a massive upgrade on anyone they have there. He’s also contracted until 2027 so we have all the negotiating power

I’d be looking at one of their early 2nd rounders with our 3rd going back as a minimum

I don't disagree with any of the bolded, but he'll be what, 28 next season?

I don't believe a player with maybe 4 years left at the peak of his powers, is worth a top 10 pick.

I don't see any recent examples of top end KPD's costing what you're asking for.

Other posters are suggesting Logan MacDonald plus pick/s. Not that Sydney should ever entertain such an offer, but such a trade should be weighted more in Sydney's favour, as MacDonald it the most valuable piece in such a trade scenario.


On the other side of the ledger, whilst Sydney are in desperate need of a top quality key defender, it's not like they're about see their window close either.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I don't disagree with any of the bolded, but he'll be what, 28 next season?

I don't believe a player with maybe 4 years left at the peak of his powers, is worth a top 10 pick.

I don't see any recent examples of top end KPD's costing what you're asking for.

Other posters are suggesting Logan MacDonald plus pick/s. Not that Sydney should ever entertain such an offer, but such a trade should be weighted more in Sydney's favour, as MacDonald it the most valuable piece in such a trade scenario.


On the other side of the ledger, whilst Sydney are in desperate need of a top quality key defender, it's not like they're about see their window close either.

They should probably not bother chasing a recently contracted player then

 

[dinnaz]

So:
Sell Barrass
Id take anything top 10, with extras would be nice.

Get McGovern jr cheap. A stopgap player yes, but covers us defensively and will be an upgrade on Rotham/Foley and can play fwd too.

Deven, our pick in the 50's should do it.
Georgiades #1 PSD

Id inquire about T. Rivers, would be a nice fit and cost us pick #36

Hit the draft hard while also bringing in players with proven performances and genuine upside.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Barrass has just bought a house in Peppermint Grove. I’d be very surprised if he agrees to be traded.

Peppy Grove. What a ****ing toff!!! Trade trade trade!!!

 

[briztoon]

So let me get this straight.

IYO: Sydney get a still contracted for four years Barrass, for a first round pick in the pick 6-8 range - and you think thats an equitable and fair trade.

YET:

By comparison ( and I use your mob Brisbane as I know thats a reference point that always resonates well with you ):

You traded pick 21 last year and this years Brisbane first rounder, plus a 2023 second rounder and a 2023 4th rounder.

Got an out of contract Dunkley and two future third rounders, back.

That doesn't look at all balanced against your generous offer ............ pick 6 at best..... for Tommy.

Not all picks are equal. What would you prefer to hold.

Picks 15, 21, 34 & 72
or
Picks 6, 48 & 53.

Picks 15 and 21 aren't getting you pick 6 in a trade. Add in pick 34, and you're still unlikely to persuade the other team to give up pick 6.

Look at what a contracted Lachie Neale cost us, picks 6, 19 & 55 for Neale & pick 30.

What you're asking for is a similar to what Neale cost.

 

[Elite Pete]

So:
Sell Barrass
Id take anything top 10, with extras would be nice.

Get McGovern jr cheap. A stopgap player yes, but covers us defensively and will be an upgrade on Rotham/Foley and can play fwd too.

Deven, our pick in the 50's should do it.
Georgiades #1 PSD

Id inquire about T. Rivers, would be a nice fit and cost us pick #36

Hit the draft hard while also bringing in players with proven performances and genuine upside.

Rivers signed recently I believe and would cost a lot more than pick 36

 

[briztoon]

They should probably not bother chasing a recently contracted player then

They probably should.

But West Coast probably shouldn't entertain such an offer. Lest North's fate awaits WC.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

It's highly unlikely that Warner or McDonald would ever be included, but pick 6 alone doesn't get it done, Barrass is an A grade defender under contract until the end of 2027. 6 and 22 or 6 and Sheldrick I can see. We should get a 25 for 36 swap on top but we like to play nice at the trade table. 5, 6, 7 and 8 if the draft was held today could be Mac n Cheese(Colby McKercher), Daniel Curtin, Mitchell Edwards and Darcy Wilson. 2 hard running mids and the 2 highest rated WA talls.

Colby McKerchers nickname is now Mac n Cheese. Henceforth everyone on this board will address him as such.

You are sounding more and more like Sumich!!!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Not all picks are equal. What would you prefer to hold.

Picks 15, 21, 34 & 72
or
Picks 6, 48 & 53.

Picks 15 and 21 aren't getting you pick 6 in a trade. Add in pick 34, and you're still unlikely to persuade the other team to give up pick 6.

Look at what a contracted Lachie Neale cost us, picks 6, 19 & 55 for Neale & pick 30.

What you're asking for is a similar to what Neale cost.

If Neale had a 4 year deal with Freo you would have been giving up 3 top 20 picks as a minimum

Contract = worth more

 

[DanWCE]

Id inquire about T. Rivers, would be a nice fit and cost us pick #36

Trent loves it over there. He signed on for a reason. No way we would get him that cheap even if he was interested