List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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Current contract status (Updated 10/2/25) : Total 43 Players - Main List (37) Rookie List (4) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2029 (2) : Jake Waterman (6/5/98) - Signed a 4 year extension (2026-29) on an existing contract due to expire 2025 in October 2024 Liam Baker (27/1/98) - Signed a 5 year...

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[Obeanie1]

So:
Sell Barrass
Id take anything top 10, with extras would be nice.

Get McGovern jr cheap. A stopgap player yes, but covers us defensively and will be an upgrade on Rotham/Foley and can play fwd too.

Deven, our pick in the 50's should do it.
Georgiades #1 PSD

Id inquire about T. Rivers, would be a nice fit and cost us pick #36

Hit the draft hard while also bringing in players with proven performances and genuine upside.

Rivers just signed a decent extension. So sounds happy at Dees.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

You are sounding more and more like Sumich!!!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Anyone but me would like to see us add Jeremy Sharp from GC?

Id rather bulk out our list this way then trying to split all our picks.

 

[bzparkes]

Pick 38 for Pick 39 and Mitch Georgiades seems fair to me if not overs

Why do that when he can come for free? Doesn't make sense to miss out on a draftee around that pick if we don't need to.

It's not like there's a lot of 'good faith' between WCE and Port in regards to trading, considering their poaching of our players over the years.

WCE owe Port nothing.

 

[ArdentEagle]

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I see you!!!

 

[mattyc75]

I’m sure ya’all missed my pleasant company the last couple of days, especially Obeanie1.

I’ve been helping my 80 year old, ex tradie, hoarding father, down size and move.

My back is fecked.

Keys is 80!!

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[Keys]

Keys is 80!!

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Then it’s time for me to go

I’ve told my wife that if I get that far I’m cashing in my chips. I’ll be done by then

 

[Wooshaaaa]

When it comes time to trade him home Tassie would more than likely have the top 20 picks in the draft and we'd get FkAll

Then the trade doesn't happen. He goes into the draft and Tassie take him.



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[dinnaz]

Rivers signed recently I believe and would cost a lot more than pick 36

Its a long shot, with a fit Salem and Bowey taking the flanks could see melb drop him again. Could be a 2024 chance

 

[Obeanie1]

Good point. I wouldn’t be leaving if I was in TBs position though. Done very well for himself.

He has done well and he will, no matter where he plays.

Does living and playing in Sydney interesthim and his partner? Even if its a 3 to 4 year plan? Some people may find that attractive, especially when you are young.

Or do they live their entire lives in Perth?

People do move for careers and then move back home later.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I took from the tradies podcast that this could be our offseason:

Out: Pick 1 to GWS, T. Barrass to Sydney
In: Picks 5,6 (current), Himmelberg Compo and Pick 7 (current) from Swans
Preseason draft: MMcgovern

So draft would be 5,6,7 and Himmelberg Compo (expect 1st round?), 19 and 37

That's getting young quick... too quick?

Barras is worth more than 7 and himmelberg compo.

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[Farang83150]

How do you feel about pick 19 instead?

They are so deluded.
They go from one extreme to another at light speed.

 

[Hook461123]

Anyone but me would like to see us add Jeremy Sharp from GC?

Id rather bulk out our list this way then trying to split all our picks.

Yeah I’d be happy getting a Dev/Georgiades/Sharp with a late pic/psd to bulk out the list but would still want at least 5 ND picks.

Wouldn’t mind a scenario where we use our first 3 picks on best available and then the 2 NGA players. Then with what’s left we get a combination of Dev/ Georgiades / Sharp through trade and psd.
Freo were into Sharp last year though so May out trade for him.
That’s 7 maybe 8 new players

 

[mattyc75]

Then it’s time for me to go

I’ve told my wife that if I get that far I’m cashing in my chips. I’ll be done by then

BY the sounds of it therell be a good garage sale

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[Wooshaaaa]

I have a top 2, then a group of 5, then a group of 7-10, then a group of 15 or so, then a group of 40.

That's my draft board at the moment. So to me You have Reid and Walter, then a drop off which includes mckercher, caddy, duursma, curtin and watson, then a group of 7-10 with a few who could drop to the lower group and 1-2 who could join the above group of 5 and then of that group of 15 there are a couple that could reach as high as the top 5 but are most likely depending on club preference 17-35 then draftable talent depending on club preference all the way out to pick 75.

So in this draft it depends on how many picks in each tier. If you could turn 22,26 and 35 into pick 7 I would do it. If you could turn it into pick 12 then I wouldn't.

So as it stands I would prefer 22,26 and 35 over say pick 9. (say GC pick) 1,7,19,22,26,35 would leave me ecstatic. Even if it means reaching a touch on 35 to secure a specific player who could between just before 40 meaning we couldn't match.

I thought the mantra leading up to last year's draft was all about how this year's draft was some kinda superdraft.

If so, then your picks of 1,7,19,22,26,35 should give us 6 bodies capable of playing AFL football. Take it....we need as many in this year as possible.

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[Mop]

Gems from the Port board.

Cmon. FFS.

He has done well and he will, no matter where he plays.

Does living and playing in Sydney interesthim and his partner? Even if its a 3 to 4 year plan? Some people may find that attractive, especially when you are young.

Or do they live their entire lives in Perth?

People do move for careers and then move back home later.

I did a good ol’ google this afternoon.
Both Perthies. Nadia Rosa’s stepdad is Heath Ledgers’ dad. She’s loaded through her stepdad by the look.

She’s one of these new age influencers / designer types. You know the ones.

Maybe Sydney would suit them?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Is it just me or was there a little bit of Bayley Fritsch

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Bayley Fritsch

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.7

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

about Maric. Composure??

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

WCE owe Port nothing.

WCE owe Port a good old fashioned Rogering.

 

[Monocle]

Not all picks are equal. What would you prefer to hold.

Picks 15, 21, 34 & 72
or
Picks 6, 48 & 53.

Picks 15 and 21 aren't getting you pick 6 in a trade. Add in pick 34, and you're still unlikely to persuade the other team to give up pick 6.

Look at what a contracted Lachie Neale cost us, picks 6, 19 & 55 for Neale & pick 30.

What you're asking for is a similar to what Neale cost.

I haven't asked for any thing.

What I did infer was that your estimate that Barrass was worth pick 6 ......no more no less....was unders.

So do you still stand by that ?

I am not getting into a wanky debate with you as to "Not all picks are equal "as thats just the sort of retort that gets you a "well dur " response.

I was merely pointing out that other trades, that have gone down recently, would suggest that a contracted Barrass ( four year contract ) for pick 6 alone, would see us short changed when compared with other trades.

 

[bzparkes]

WCE owe Port a good old fashioned Rogering.

Ok, apart from that.

 

[briztoon]

If Neale had a 4 year deal with Freo you would have been giving up 3 top 20 picks as a minimum

Contract = worth more

We wouldn't have paid that, if Freo asked for more, we would have waited the extra year and got him as a restricted free agent.

Similar to Dunkley, Bulldogs asked for 2 first round picks, we asked for their second rounder back. They said no, so we traded our first rounder to GWS for their second round pick & future second round pick. We then traded that future second round pick and pick 46 to Gold Coast for picks 25, 36 & 56.

That p!ssed the Dogs off big time, and they kept asking for 2 first round picks, and we kept replying we don't have two first round picks (anymore).


Yes Barrass is contracted, and that gives you more power, but Sydney is unlikely to overpay for a 28 year old defender. Sydney most likely walks away from any deal that costs them what they consider too much.

 

[jaxxon]

WCE owe Port a good old fashioned Rogering.

More than just one.

 

[briztoon]

I haven't asked for any thing.

What I did infer was that your estimate that Barrass was worth pick 6 ......no more no less....was unders.

So do you still stand by that ?

I am not getting into a wanky debate with you as to "Not all picks are equal "as thats just the sort of retort that gets you a "well dur " response.

I was merely pointing out that other trades, that have gone down recently, would suggest that a contracted Barrass ( four year contract ) for pick 6 alone, would see us short changed by compared with other trades.

Show me a recent comparable deal, for a key defender that involves a top 10 pick.

I pointed out that the Dunkley trade wasn't comparable. Yes he was contracted, but there was no top 10 pick involved, and the picks that were involved are unlikely to get you a trade in to the top 10.


Unless any such trade discussions involve a Brisbane player, I'm trying to offer a neutral perspective in such discussions, as I don't have any biases towards either team.

 

[Tugga27]

Show me a recent comparable deal, for a key defender that involves a top 10 pick.

I pointed out that the Dunkley trade wasn't comparable. Yes he was contracted, but there was no top 10 pick involved, and the picks that were involved are unlikely to get you a trade in to the top 10.


Unless any such trade discussions involve a Brisbane player, I'm trying to offer a neutral perspective in such discussions, as I don't have any biases towards either team.

Wasn't Steven May a high end pick when he went to Melbourne?

 

[briztoon]

He has done well and he will, no matter where he plays.

Does living and playing in Sydney interesthim and his partner? Even if its a 3 to 4 year plan? Some people may find that attractive, especially when you are young.

Or do they live their entire lives in Perth?

People do move for careers and then move back home later.

Unless Sydney is bumping his pay by an extra $200k per, it's not even close to an attractive financial decision. If he wants a shot at another premiership, Sydney might be an option, but so to would the Suns, Port, maybe Adelaide and 3 or 4 Vic teams.