List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew, Baker Requested Trades - Barrass, Darling Current contract status (Updated 18/9/24) : Total 41 Players (Pending Trades) - Main List (35) Rookie List (4) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2028 (2) : Liam Duggan (11/12/96) - Signed a 4 year...

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[Ishmael_]

I'm not sure he meant Long.
He said potential player.

Being selected at 58, I think Long was just happy to have been picked up.

I think he meant like could potentially have done that and is a WCE player.

And ya mate just being silly with Long. I was thinking Hewett ('attitude', Eagles nuffie) or Allen (late bloomer, Eagles nuffie).

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Brad Johnson on SEN's website o trading g pick 1:



Which ones then Brad, or does your analysis not go that deep?

I'm just going to go back and google Brad's comments on how North should trade pick 1 (when they had it for a week).

 

[Free Agent]

So does anyone know if we're definitely getting Reid?

Harley Reid Day Celebrations hahah

until then it's 3 months of shit talking

 

[Cuzz09]

Hey, don't underestimate Freo trading away Andrew McLeod for Chris Groom

Huge error in hindsight.

I actually met Chris Groom at Footy Park at a Crows game, I was standing next to him at the bar waiting to get served. We were both fairly inebriated and I did the old "Ohhhh Andy McLeod!!" or something and he was really nice, chatted about footy and trades and stuff for ages. Not what I expected. Guess ya gotta move on.

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[darksquare]

Brad Johnson on SEN's website on trading pick 1:

You can tell how much he understands our list by his choice of our young talent. Williams, Edwards, Long, Hewett. I’m sure those are exactly the four names that spring to mind for all of us…


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[bzparkes]

You can tell how much he understands our list by his choice of our young talent. Williams, Edwards, Long, Hewett. I’m sure those are exactly the four names that spring to mind for all of us…


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Yeah. Looks like he's trying to list mids to add to when Reid & McKercher are the only 2(Sanders if available) mids in the top 10.

 

[WCE_phil]

The biggest trade fail of all time is still Freo trading away pick one.

The biggest trade fail of all time is North Melbourne getting the rights to Carey and Longmire for I cant remember was either 10 or 30k.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I'm all for passing on Brockman. The one game I could actually bring myself to watch of Hawthorn this year he was completely anonymous. Yes he may blow up and become good, but have to think much greater chance that he never becomes a valuable player.

The Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

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25

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77kg

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12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

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4.6

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4.6

4star

M

2.0

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T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

talk is wishful thinking. At the same age Shai was a fair way ahead.

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Brockman has a lot of traits that the club would value, pressure, skills and good goal sense.

Brockman trades is low risk given the trade capital required to get it done.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Compare them at the same point in their careers, Bolton would still be ahead but only marginally
Brockman has a lot of traits that the club would value, pressure, skills and good goal sense.

Brockman trades is low risk given the trade capital required to get it done.

Prior to the years compared, Brockman had played 11 games, Bolton had played 9. The years compared were the year they first became regulars. 15 games from Brockman, 19 for Bolton.

So think it's fairly representative that it's at the same point in their careers.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

You can tell how much he understands our list by his choice of our young talent. Williams, Edwards, Long, Hewett. I’m sure those are exactly the four names that spring to mind for all of us…


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2 out of 4 ain't bad.

 

[kane249]

2 out of 4 ain't bad.

Bit harsh on Long and Hewett?

 

[Kegs15]

Only an AFL.com article so not worth reading into as much more than a talking point but mentions that Mabior Chol

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Mabior Chol

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27

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200cm

Wt

98kg

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7.5

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5.3

2star

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2.2

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M

2.3

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2.7

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0.8

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D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

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2.0

1star

M

2.3

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2.3

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0.7

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6.8

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is looking tradeable.

I actually wouldn't mind that - obviously the priority should be the draft so it'd depend what he'd cost but he's versatile and only 26, would protect Oscar/the younger Williams and be able to chop out in the ruck for Bailey (I still don't subscribe to Bailey being predominantly a forward, think he's best majority rucking).

GC always need later picks to get their points up and depending on his salary may want to dump him in that sense - he might not cost much at all. I'd honestly pay a fair bit to protect both Oscar and BBBBW from wrecking themselves before they're 28 and Chol is a young enough option for that to be around for as long as we need him for.

 

[kane249]

Only an AFL.com article so not worth reading into as much more than a talking point but mentions that Mabior Chol is looking tradeable.

I actually wouldn't mind that - obviously the priority should be the draft so it'd depend what he'd cost but he's versatile and only 26, would protect Oscar/the younger Williams and be able to chop out in the ruck for Bailey (I still don't subscribe to Bailey being predominantly a forward, think he's best majority rucking).

GC always need later picks to get their points up and depending on his salary may want to dump him in that sense - he might not cost much at all. I'd honestly pay a fair bit to protect both Oscar and BBBBW from wrecking themselves before they're 28 and Chol is a young enough option for that to be around for as long as we need him for.

Fell out of favour this year a bit I think, but last year kicked 44 goals for the Suns.

Could be worth a look if the cost is low in terms of draft capital

 

[Barrybran]

Not a bad shout re: Chol. Would be a reasonable short term option like Hunt while others develop.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We will take 4 and Chol for pick 19 or GTFO.






/Suns do indeed GTFO.

 

[Ishmael_]

Only an AFL.com article so not worth reading into as much more than a talking point but mentions that Mabior Chol is looking tradeable.

I actually wouldn't mind that - obviously the priority should be the draft so it'd depend what he'd cost but he's versatile and only 26, would protect Oscar/the younger Williams and be able to chop out in the ruck for Bailey (I still don't subscribe to Bailey being predominantly a forward, think he's best majority rucking).

GC always need later picks to get their points up and depending on his salary may want to dump him in that sense - he might not cost much at all. I'd honestly pay a fair bit to protect both Oscar and BBBBW from wrecking themselves before they're 28 and Chol is a young enough option for that to be around for as long as we need him for.

I think he has a couple of years on his contract still, so unless it was a salary dump we'd need to trade something. I like Chol though, a bit inconsistent but if you could improve that, he's quite talented. Can't see it happening though.

And ya I agree on BW. I don't see a forward at all, and his ruck craft is getting better. Just needs to continue his improvement around the ground and repeat efforts at stoppage.

He's also not undersized. I don't understand where that comes from. Plenty of ruckman are his height and he has a leap. Also, we don't need a monster ruckman if the rest of our midfield is elite and there's enough size - which is what we're building.

 

[BartBart]

Hey, don't underestimate Freo trading away Andrew McLeod for Chris Groom

Because they didn't like his earring.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

To be brutally honest, i'm not sure if we even need Brockman. Cripps/Long/Jones and even Burgiel are ahead in that small forward role.

I would see what we can get in the draft over the next season or two as another Brockman level player can be found easily. He's had 3 years and hasn't shown much improvement at all so why not draft the same level player with some upside.

Jones and Burgiel are small backs not forwards. We need there run and skills off half back. Bl

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[DanWCE]

I've actually wondered if we hid Hough.

 

[ROO DOGG]

I've actually wondered if we hid Hough.

Sounds like too much of a hassle.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I've actually wondered if we hid Hough.

If we are in the process of hiding, who is the person we could be hiding this year....

 

[BeornJ]

Sounds like too much of a hassle.

If there is anyone worth the hassle, it's Hough.

 

[Big_Birdy]

I've actually wondered if we hid Hough.

We told everyone he couldn't count.

 

[Dylan82]

I've actually wondered if we hid Hough.

Funny place to hide him, at the reserve club of the cross-town rivals.

Must be crazy like a fox.


I'm sure the previous references to "hiding" a certain player, are likely to pertain to Hewett last year.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Only an AFL.com article so not worth reading into as much more than a talking point but mentions that Mabior Chol is looking tradeable.

I actually wouldn't mind that - obviously the priority should be the draft so it'd depend what he'd cost but he's versatile and only 26, would protect Oscar/the younger Williams and be able to chop out in the ruck for Bailey (I still don't subscribe to Bailey being predominantly a forward, think he's best majority rucking).

GC always need later picks to get their points up and depending on his salary may want to dump him in that sense - he might not cost much at all. I'd honestly pay a fair bit to protect both Oscar and BBBBW from wrecking themselves before they're 28 and Chol is a young enough option for that to be around for as long as we need him for.

Commitment and attitude issues have been the rumours around chol.

He went home to Queensland on good money and has slacked off .

Do not want