List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

Who do you want to get a contract?

  • Coby Burgiel

    Votes: 22 15.1%

  • Sandy Brock

    Votes: 69 47.3%

  • Neither

    Votes: 37 25.3%

  • James Van Es

    Votes: 18 12.3%
  • Total voters
    146
  • Poll closed .

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)
  • Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
  • Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
  • (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025
 
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xInfected_Virus said:
If the team's rucks are in dire straights then they could take a risk at the MSD by selecting Braydon Preuss. He wanted to play for a fourth club after getting delisted so that would suggest that he wants to continue at AFL level. I personally highly rate Preuss and he would easily be an upgrade on both Flynn and B.Williams in the ruck who can actually compete against top tier rucks and beat mid/lower tier rucks since the days of Cox and Nic Nat. Watching him in the VFL, the guy's way too good at VFL level, something our Beagles teams lacks.

However he's very injury prone with a back more dodgy than Barrass since he hardly played at all so for me, high risk, high reward type of pick if he can get his body right again.
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Hes very good when not injured, but he's incredibly injury prone.
I'll always refer back to the vfl game he did a hammy while running onto the field at the start of the game lmao.

Idk what he's up to in a state league but if he has a good first half of the year injury free we definitely should look at him if there isn't a standout who we have to take at our pick (depending what pick we have)

Hes genuinely a monster of a man at a very similar size to Witts
 

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Godfather32 said:
That there is a midfield that will strike fear into the hearts of the Demons...


.... the Perth Demons that is
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Not sure it would, the Demons would probably be competitive.

I don't see a winning midfield and Ruck combination. AFL ladder predictor auto fill shows one win. Even AI algorithms have written us off.
 
Dom sheed pocket said:
You can’t blame it all on the rucks.

Flynn was putrid. But it’s easy to rice to a losing ruckman. You can read oppo ruckman, or just play super defensive.

We did neither. It’s not just in clearance we were beaten- we were -40 in contested possession and minus 19 in post clearance contested possession.

That post clearance number has nothing to do with ruckman as the ball is already out of the stoppage.

It’s a dreadful statistic. And an indictment on mids first and foremost .
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Post clearance has been our achilles heal since 2020.

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Dom sheed pocket said:
Also melbourne failed in 2019 after the 2018 jump.
Carlton didn't make top4 after the 2023 jump
Bombers failed in 2018 after the 2017 jump
Freo failed in 2023 after the 2022 jump
Crows failed in 2024 after 2023 jump (they really should have played finals except were cheated out of it)

I'm not really sure Dinnaz knows what he is talking about himself.
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In fairness alot of those jumps aren't as significant as Hawthorn's (and ours).

We went from 16th to 4th and a prelim
Hawthorn went from 16th to 7th and a semi final

Melbourne went from 9th to 5th and a prelim.
Carlton went from 9th to 5th or 6th and a prelim.
Essendon went from 18th to 7th - I'll pay that one, albeit this was around the scandal.
Fremantle went from 11th to 5th
Adelaide went from 14th to 10th (what should've been 8th, kinda counts)

I'm not necessarily disagreeing or agreeing with you nor do I really remember what the overall point was, I just like to nit pick.
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Not one person would say Chad Warner is the 1 guy to come in... Warner should be 1 of 3 mature midfielders we get in.
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Agreed - or on balance (and this is me absolutely dreaming if we can pull this off)

Warner

Draft Sharp (we need a genuine beast mid, if he continues to show what he's shown he's priority #1 at this stage IMO)

Pry someone from a midfield-overflowing side in the mould of Cumming/Perryman/Peatling (would be stoked for a sequel to the excellent Dylan82 midfield target analysis thread). Someone who, rather than a natural flanker/wing with 'midfield potential', is a natural midfielder shunted to flanks/wings due to the star power already in there, but who could shine with more responsibility. No chance we land Ed Richards as a free agent but that sort of player - happy to pay picks to trade for them within reason.
 
WCE_phil said:
People expecting 1st - 3rd year mids to be able to compete with the best of the best are idiots. Rowell was drafted as a beast in 2019 and was only really able to dominate from last year onwards. Anderson was coming from further back but with a higher ceiling and again on the inside, last year.
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Is anyone truely expecting this?

The disappointment is when we roll into a CBA with Kelly, Graham and Duggan and watch them run it out uncontested just as easily as when hewett and reid are in there. There are plenty of examples of absolute crabs in the AFL being able to have negative impacts on opposition stars output.

No-ones expecting that group to win against gold coasts midfeield but we are expecting them to put up somewhat of a challenge rather than routinely seeing one person **** off or be caught too flat footed/too slow to react and be burnt on the overlap over and over again.

the mental application and effort in being accountable, was again and as per the last three years incredibly lacking. The hopium that this might change under a new coach was obliterated by that display on the weekend which is what people are reacting to.

It appears, as another poster mentioned that there are still elements in the club that need to be excised before we can move on from this.

Can hardly expect Reid to track miller after a CBA so he doesn’t kick an unopposed goal streaming forward when your senior players aren’t setting this example.

I think we’re all interested to see how mini reacts to this.
 
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Monsterdarlz said:
I still stand by my belief that last off season we should of walked away with
Pick 3 FF or pick 14 plus change for barrass and gotten bakes and Graham
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If they were so adamant they wanted the Baker trade done it should’ve been the Hawks future first for him.

We need players now and not in the future. Most would’ve been happy with Bo and Murphy Reid for pick 3 rather then the outcome we got.

But I have no doubt they were preparing themselves for Chad Warner. If reports are right and he told both WA teams he will becoming home after one more season and he told Simmo he wants to play with the Eagles and Harley, you can see why. Plus I believe Baker and Warner share a manager so that explains Dons comments about bigger picture and honouring our commitments ect.

Issue is now that all might not happen and we delayed a critical stage of the rebuild. Now it’s fork in the road sort of stuff.

Freo on the other hand had the option to trade the Murphy Reid pick for a likely future top 10 picks off multiple clubs (Roos and Bombers apparently) but didn’t bite, which is interesting if they thought they were a chance of Warner and/or Kossi. Kossi they can probably still get done. I’m not sure Swans do Chad for late firsts with the drafts so compromised or Chad does that to Sydney. If he leaves which if it was 90-10 to leave at the start of the season, could be 70-30 to stay now.
 
Cornelius Roy said:
Is anyone truely expecting this?

The disappointment is when we roll into a CBA with Kelly, Graham and Duggan and watch them run it out uncontested just as easily as when hewett and reid are in there. There are plenty of examples of absolute crabs in the AFL being able to have negative impacts on opposition stars output.

No-ones expecting that group to win against gold coasts midfeield but we are expecting them to put up somewhat of a challenge rather than routinely seeing one person **** off or be caught too flat footed/too slow to react and be burnt on the overlap over and over again.

the mental application and effort in being accountable, was again and as per the last three years incredibly lacking. The hopium that this might change under a new coach was obliterated by that display on the weekend which is what people are reacting to.

It appears, as another poster mentioned that there are still elements in the club that need to be excised before we can move on from this.

Can hardly expect Reid to track miller after a CBA so he doesn’t kick an unopposed goal streaming forward when your senior players aren’t setting this example.

I think we’re all interested to see how mini reacts to this.
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Good post. Apart from PremiershipNo4 whose strategy to fix our woes is to simply draft an afl competent 18 year old ruck I think most of us can recognise that development takes time.

Unless we’re 100% certain he’s not extending, trading Harley for picks would just set midfield development back two years. I still think he’ll extend.

What Sunday suggests is that if we finish bottom two we should let Oscar walk. Take two of Sharp, Rodriguez and Greeves/Warner. Also insist for us not to match FA offer we get the 1R of a Brisbane or Sydney in exchange for later points which they will need anyway. Take best mid available and Curtin with that and the Hawks pick.
 

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Elite Pete said:

"Harley Reid will not be at the Eagles in 2026"

A massive call on the No.1 draft pick from 2023.
www.sen.com.au

More guess work but I think majority are starting to think like this. Can’t see the Hawks being a chance unless the Blues bottom right out.
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““I’m just feeling at the moment the he maybe is looking beyond this year and I think he will not be a West Coast Eagles player in 2026.”

Vlahos with some vibes.
 
eaglevision said:
““I’m just feeling at the moment the he maybe is looking beyond this year and I think he will not be a West Coast Eagles player in 2026.”

Vlahos with some vibes.
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Gotta get people to click on the article somehow.
 
Elite Pete said:
If they were so adamant they wanted the Baker trade done it should’ve been the Hawks future first for him.

We need players now and not in the future. Most would’ve been happy with Bo and Murphy Reid for pick 3 rather then the outcome we got.

But I have no doubt they were preparing themselves for Chad Warner. If reports are right and he told both WA teams he will becoming home after one more season and he told Simmo he wants to play with the Eagles and Harley, you can see why. Plus I believe Baker and Warner share a manager so that explains Dons comments about bigger picture and honouring our commitments ect.

Issue is now that all might not happen and we delayed a critical stage of the rebuild. Now it’s fork in the road sort of stuff.

Freo on the other hand had the option to trade the Murphy Reid pick for a likely future top 10 picks off multiple clubs (Roos and Bombers apparently) but didn’t bite, which is interesting if they thought they were a chance of Warner and/or Kossi. Kossi they can probably still get done. I’m not sure Swans do Chad for late firsts with the drafts so compromised or Chad does that to Sydney. If he leaves which if it was 90-10 to leave at the start of the season, could be 70-30 to stay now.
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Totally agree with we need players now.
Who are they??
Warner.
Ward: who is OOC and behind an outstanding midfield/can play inside and out and has upside/22 and plenty of upside.
Rivers: RFA 2027, moved into midfield back end of 2024 when Petracca was injured, did really well and mini developed him last year at Melbourne, WA born, connections, same age as Warner. If he is a future A grade mid throw everything at him.
Flanders: RFA 2027, behind Rowell, Anderson, Miller at GC just! Inside/outside mid who is about to explode if he hasnt already in 2024, high footy IQ and a hard edged but classy ball user, explosive. Sam age as Warner and 8-10 year A grade mid. Sell the farm almost/use all available future assets to get him in!! Build our clubs midfield around Reid, Warner, Flanders and Hewett.
 
If Reid indicated he wanted to go back to Vic this year and was happy to move to Richmond, would anyone take it?

IMO, if that happened, I'd be letting Allan walk for a first rounder also and take 4x top 5 picks to the draft and just load up on all the top mids.

I'm not advocating to push Reid out the door, btw, just spitballing in case it happened.

After the reality check that was our game vs GC, our midfield is in an appalling state(we basically have a cooked Yeo and disinterested Kelly as our senior mids and 2nd year Reid, with nobody else) and no amount of trade ins is going to get it into premiership contention with the draft hand we currently have.
 
We have tried to fix the midfield through the draft for the last few years, we didnt expect Harley to just be on his own as the only young mid in the side last year, or to some extent this year
We literally drafted the best ruckman in his draft plus 3 mids in the top 30 picks the year before we took Harley.

Ginbey was meant to be a contested/defensive midfielder, Hewett was an explosive/contested player to complement Ginbey, Burgiel a faster outside player and Barnett our long term ruckman.

Yes it may not have panned out perfectly but not like the club didnt try to do anything about it, a bit late sure but considering we started the rebuild in 2022 its not like the club was blind to it - again, im only talking about once they started to rebuild.

Hewett could still work out once he gets some of his match fitness back and Ginbey could end up back in the middle by the end of the year with a bit more confidence to chase the ball, might not look so bad then.
 
bzparkes said:
If Reid indicated he wanted to go back to Vic this year and was happy to move to Richmond, would anyone take it?

IMO, if that happened, I'd be letting Allan walk for a first rounder also and take 4x top 5 picks to the draft and just load up on all the top mids.

I'm not advocating to push Reid out the door, btw, just spitballing in case it happened.

After the reality check that was our game vs GC, our midfield is in an appalling state(we basically have a cooked Yeo and disinterested Kelly as our senior mids and 2nd year Reid, with nobody else) and no amount of trade ins is going to get it into premiership contention with the draft hand we currently have.
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why would richmond give up all their high draft picks and mess up their full rebuild?
 
stallon said:
We have tried to fix the midfield through the draft for the last few years, we didnt expect Harley to just be on his own as the only young mid in the side last year, or to some extent this year
We literally drafted the best ruckman in his draft plus 3 mids in the top 30 picks the year before we took Harley.

Ginbey was meant to be a contested/defensive midfielder, Hewett was an explosive/contested player to complement Ginbey, Burgiel a faster outside player and Barnett our long term ruckman.

Yes it may not have panned out perfectly but not like the club didnt try to do anything about it, a bit late sure but considering we started the rebuild in 2022 its not like the club was blind to it - again, im only talking about once they started to rebuild.

Hewett could still work out once he gets some of his match fitness back and Ginbey could end up back in the middle by the end of the year with a bit more confidence to chase the ball, might not look so bad then.
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It's all well and good to draft with the right intentions but if anything, GC's midfield just goes to show that you really need top end picks in there to truly compete.

Rowell & Anderson were picks 1 & 2 and it shows.

Of course, we have high hopes for Hewett but after missing his entire 2nd year, he's coming from a long way back.

Even then, we'd be hoping blokes picked in the 2nd and 3rd rounds become elite.

I understand we haven't had the picks but if we're banking on Tom Gross to be our next midfield saviour(which I hope he does, of course), then it's just a very hit and hope methodology of list-building.

We absolutely have to hand onto our first rounder this year and try to generate another by letting Oscar walk, IMO, otherwise we'll have scrubbed our chances of ever having an elite midfield via the draft before Tassie enters and will rely on attempting to trade in players, or hope free agents want to join.

Warner would be a mistake unless Reid recommits for 5 years and we have an extra first-rounder to trade for him.
 
bzparkes said:
It's all well and good to draft with the right intentions but if anything, GC's midfield just goes to show that you really need top end picks in there to truly compete.

Rowell & Anderson were picks 1 & 2 and it shows.

Of course, we have high hopes for Hewett but after missing his entire 2nd year, he's coming from a long way back.

Even then, we'd be hoping blokes picked in the 2nd and 3rd rounds become elite.

I understand we haven't had the picks but if we're banking on Tom Gross to be our next midfield saviour(which I hope he does, of course), then it's just a very hit and hope methodology of list-building.
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Im just saying, we have spent picks 14, 31, 8, 14, 29, 1, 38, 49, 16, and 46 on mids(at least players who played mid/wing in their u18 years) in the last 4 drafts. Thats 10 picks over 4 drafts.

4 of those in the first 14 picks of their drafts, ordinarily thats the type of stuff you can build a midfield around. Theyre even all 4 different types of mids that would have complemented each other, our picks just havent worked out as we wouldve liked - yet(except maybe Chesser lol)

We did start trying 3 drafts ago, is my point
bzparkes said:
We absolutely have to hand onto our first rounder this year and try to generate another by letting Oscar walk, IMO, otherwise we'll have scrubbed our chances of ever having an elite midfield via the draft before Tassie enters and will rely on attempting to trade in players, or hope free agents want to join.

Warner would be a mistake unless Reid recommits for 5 years and we have an extra first-rounder to trade for him.
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Agree no point in chasing Warner too hard unless we keep Reid, but it might be a damage control sort of thing the club tries to sell the fans, "we swapped Reid for Warner" which id understand. The club needs to get off the bottom of the ladder now, rather than in 3-4 years time from a business perspective.

If we Let Allen go for an early pick(pick3), got 2 firsts(1 top 5 + 1 top 10) + a f1 from Essendon for Reid, then turn pick 3+bombers f1 into Warner I think thatd be an ok result for a rebuilding team that needs to sell hope to the fans and sponsors

Swapping Allen+Reid for Warner+a top 5 + a top 10 pick wouldnt be awful, still have our pick 2 + hawks 1st too
Find an inside mid from somewhere with our 2nd rounder and draft with the rest of the picks
Picks 2+4?+8?+hawks 1st is a good hand

I think thatd be a fine outcome
 
stallon said:
Im just saying, we have spent picks 14, 31, 8, 14, 29, 1, 38, 49, 16, and 46 on mids(at least players who played mid/wing in their u18 years) in the last 4 drafts. Thats 10 picks over 4 drafts.

4 of those in the first 14 picks of their drafts, ordinarily thats the type of stuff you can build a midfield around. Theyre even all 4 different types of mids that would have complemented each other, our picks just havent worked out as we wouldve liked - yet(except maybe Chesser lol)

We did start trying 3 drafts ago, is my point
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I get that but we haven't picked any bonafide, top-end mids in any of our drafts. Even Reid was more of a utility.

Hewett's shown in underage games he can get the ball but can that translate to AFL level? Ginbey was also an AA onballer but struggles at AFL level.

Of course, those things can certainly change and I'm fine with the Ginbey/Hewett picks due to really only Wardlaw being available to us had we kept pick 2 at the time(even though we'd have taken Cadman anyway) but I feel that if the opportunity is there at the end of the year to take at least 2x top 5 mids(by letting Oscar go) then realistically, we should be taking it.


stallon said:
Agree no point in chasing Warner too hard unless we keep Reid, but it might be a damage control sort of thing the club tries to sell the fans, "we swapped Reid for Warner" which id understand. The club needs to get off the bottom of the ladder now, rather than in 3-4 years time from a business perspective.

If we Let Allen go for an early pick(pick3), got 2 firsts(1 top 5 + 1 top 10) + a f1 from Essendon for Reid, then turn pick 3+bombers f1 into Warner I think thatd be an ok result for a rebuilding team that needs to sell hope to the fans and sponsors

Swapping Allen+Reid for Warner+a top 5 + a top 10 pick wouldnt be awful, still have our pick 2 + hawks 1st too
Find an inside mid from somewhere with our 2nd rounder and draft with the rest of the picks
Picks 2+4?+8?+hawks 1st is a good hand

I think thatd be a fine outcome
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Yeah, need to forget the 'damage control' scenario and just acknowledge mistakes were made int he past and try to rectify it this off season.

Best thing Warner could do is re-sign for 2 years, IMO.
 

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