List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

 

[Obeanie1]

Hey Obeanie, I’ve always liked your posts, the thing is I never suggested drafting an 18 yr old ruckman, a certain poster claimed that I said we needed to draft an 18yr old ruckman when I never said that at all.
Obviously looking at drafting or trading at nature age ruckman, is something I’m sure WC will be looking at very closely.
Cheers

Fair enough.

But drafting a ruck is either a skinny 18 year old who won't impact for years or we draft a mature age ruck who has been overlooked in several drafts because they were not good enough.

So drafting a capable ruck to make immediate impact is very unlikely to work.

Hence our interest in Darcy Cameron. A ruck who can impact straight away and carry the ruck for 3 odd years until the kids are ready.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Fair enough.

But drafting a ruck is either a skinny 18 year old who won't impact for years or we draft a mature age ruck who has been overlooked in several drafts because they were not good enough.

So drafting a capable ruck to make immediate impact is very unlikely to work.

Hence our interest in Darcy Cameron. A ruck who can impact straight away and carry the ruck for 3 odd years until the kids are ready.

Could be a great option, or someone really starts to shine in a state league, Ruckman do take time to shine as we all know.

 

[WCE777]

Could be a great option, or someone really starts to shine in a state league, Ruckman do take time to shine as we all know.

Our rucks are all second stringers.
Darcy Cameron would be an upgrade on all of them, keep Flynn as a decent second ruck.

Watch L McAndrew develop at ADE this year and if he looks the goods he is a RFA at end 2025 and would be 25 and ready to take the next ruck role if competent.
If McAndrew's progress is sufficient to warrant a contract trade BW to someone for a decent pick and WC have Cameron for 3-4 years, McAndrew for 8 and enough fwd/rucks in JW and A Reid to be competitive in the ruck department.

If we land Cameron and McAndrew, Flynns contract expires 2026 and we can keep him on a rookie contract and AFLW ruck coach as he currently is.

 

[EaglesVille]

ESPN had Walley ranked at 10 yesterday

 

[maverick001]

feel like we have that type of player in long. he'd had a long lay-off, give him some time and think he comes good.

Long has not the pace, sideways step or goal nouse of Bailey
I just don’t see him making it

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Are you lost buddy?

Speculation - Harley Reid [OOC 2026]

That "article" is literally just Vlahos who is a muppet giving his opinion based on nothing at all other than what we saw on tv

www.bigfooty.com

Most Bombers supporters are.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

feel like we have that type of player in long. he'd had a long lay-off, give him some time and think he comes good.

We do not have that type of player in Long. Bailey is crafty, evasive and hits the scoreboard. Noah brings pressure, tackles, has clean hands. Doesn't hit the scoreboard nearly as much.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Potential mid-season ruck pickup.

Love this, I posted the below a few months back on him. He could be huge get if he continue on his linear growth trajectory. 202cm with a 90cm leap is massive weapon.

Almost forgot the other ruck we had been reported to be looking at was Geelong VFL ruckman Ajang Kuol Mun. 202cm with a huge vertical leap (90cm).

Apparently quite new to the game but honing his craft. He's just signed with Port Melbourne in the VFL, so hopefully has a really strong start to the season and we can have a crack at MSD.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Chad has better skills and can kick goals.

Chad plays with excellent midfielders who do the heavy lifting…

 

[WCE_phil]

Love this, I posted the below a few months back on him. He could be huge get if he continue on his linear growth trajectory. 202cm with a 90cm leap is massive weapon.

Almost forgot the other ruck we had been reported to be looking at was Geelong VFL ruckman Ajang Kuol Mun. 202cm with a huge vertical leap (90cm).

Apparently quite new to the game but honing his craft. He's just signed with Port Melbourne in the VFL, so hopefully has a really strong start to the season and we can have a crack at MSD.

He's a definite watch. If using the MSD draft to look at the future if he starts well is well and truly one of the top prospective targets. Particularly if Barnett shows something in defence at WAFL level in the first part of the season.

Edwards whilst he reads the play well is just too slow as a FB for the current game with centre bounce clearances with the 6/6/6 rule. He will do as a stop gap for a couple of years but the club definitely needs better.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Is there any way we can get:

Warner
Rodriguez
Sharp



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We finish bottom, let Allan go as a FA and get picks 1 and 2.

Then we go to Sydney with Hawks R1 plus our F1 for Warner plus Swans F1. Tell Swans to take it or we walk Warner to PSD.

Not saying we will do it but you asked if there was a way.

Our future midfield would be Sharp, Rodriguez, Harley and Warner

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

He's a definite watch. If using the MSD draft to look at the future if he starts well is well and truly one of the top prospective targets. Particularly if Barnett shows something in defence at WAFL level in the first part of the season.

Edwards whilst he reads the play well is just too slow as a FB for the current game with centre bounce clearances with the 6/6/6 rule. He will do as a stop gap for a couple of years but the club definitely needs better.

Phil, would Knobel come back to WA from Gold Coast at the end of the year?

 

[WCE_phil]

Phil, would Knobel come back to WA from Gold Coast at the end of the year?

He wanted to stay at Freo or head home to Victoria. However if he's not getting a game at GC and shows further development this year i'd very much be in the ear with a 3 or 4 year contract.

 

[Smotie2]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Don't shoot me down.

History since 2017.

2017 the infamous taking of brander with our first pick instead of Allen which led to us taking Allen with our second pick and Geelong taking Kelly.

Happy to be corrected but if we had traded and drafted differently we could have had these players on our list.

2019 had we not traded for Kelly. The pick 14 was used on Bergman. Quite a decent player

2020 the future first pick 18 given to Geelong could have been used on the likes of max Holmes or Tyler Brockman who we had to trade for recently anyway.

2022 traded pick 3 and could have pick sheezel.

2023 Reid.

2024 pick 3 we could picked up jagga smith.

Let's correct all this and draft without ****ing up out picks and forgetting the brander shit.

If we had not traded for Kelly and not traded out our high picks each year in 2 of the last 3 years we could very well have had the following players in our team right now.

Jagga smith
Harry sheezel
Max Holmes
Miles Bergman

These added to Elliot Yeo and Harley reid and we have much better and talented midfield/team

I really hope we dont trade away our pick number 1 this year even if it's to secure Chad Warner.

Thoughts?

 

[bzparkes]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Don't shoot me down.

History since 2017.

2017 the infamous taking of brander with our first pick instead of Allen which led to us taking Allen with our second pick and Geelong taking Kelly.

Happy to be corrected but if we had traded and drafted differently we could have had these players on our list.

2019 had we not traded for Kelly. The pick 14 was used on Bergman. Quite a decent player

2020 the future first pick 18 given to Geelong could have been used on the likes of max Holmes or Tyler Brockman who we had to trade for recently anyway.

2022 traded pick 3 and could have pick sheezel.

2023 Reid.

2024 pick 3 we could picked up jagga smith.

Let's correct all this and draft without ****ing up out picks and forgetting the brander shit.

If we had not traded for Kelly and not traded out our high picks each year in 2 of the last 3 years we could very well have had the following players in our team right now.

Jagga smith
Harry sheezel
Max Holmes
Miles Bergman

These added to Elliot Yeo and Harley reid and we have much better and talented midfield/team

I really hope we dont trade away our pick number 1 this year even if it's to secure Chad Warner.

Thoughts?

We'd never have taken Sheezel because we didn't have pick 1. It's been talked about ad nauseum.

Jagga Smith is Masten 2.0. Way too small for the big leagues.

 

[stallon]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Don't shoot me down.

History since 2017.

2017 the infamous taking of brander with our first pick instead of Allen which led to us taking Allen with our second pick and Geelong taking Kelly.

Happy to be corrected but if we had traded and drafted differently we could have had these players on our list.

2019 had we not traded for Kelly. The pick 14 was used on Bergman. Quite a decent player

The pick 14 we gave up ended up being pick 16, Cooper Stephens. Bergman wasnt available
Id have to imagine we wouldve picked Dev Robertson here, but SDK wouldve been nice if we are picking with hindsight

2020 the future first pick 18 given to Geelong could have been used on the likes of max Holmes or Tyler Brockman who we had to trade for recently anyway.

2022 traded pick 3 and could have pick sheezel.

2023 Reid.

2024 pick 3 we could picked up jagga smith.

Let's correct all this and draft without ****ing up out picks and forgetting the brander shit.

If we had not traded for Kelly and not traded out our high picks each year in 2 of the last 3 years we could very well have had the following players in our team right now.

Jagga smith
Harry sheezel
Max Holmes
Miles Bergman

These added to Elliot Yeo and Harley reid and we have much better and talented midfield/team

I really hope we dont trade away our pick number 1 this year even if it's to secure Chad Warner.

Thoughts?

If you want to cherry pick all the best possible outcomes then sure, but thats not ever realistic

 

[Kegs15]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Don't shoot me down.

History since 2017.

2017 the infamous taking of brander with our first pick instead of Allen which led to us taking Allen with our second pick and Geelong taking Kelly.

Happy to be corrected but if we had traded and drafted differently we could have had these players on our list.

2019 had we not traded for Kelly. The pick 14 was used on Bergman. Quite a decent player

2020 the future first pick 18 given to Geelong could have been used on the likes of max Holmes or Tyler Brockman who we had to trade for recently anyway.

2022 traded pick 3 and could have pick sheezel.

2023 Reid.

2024 pick 3 we could picked up jagga smith.

Let's correct all this and draft without ****ing up out picks and forgetting the brander shit.

If we had not traded for Kelly and not traded out our high picks each year in 2 of the last 3 years we could very well have had the following players in our team right now.

Jagga smith
Harry sheezel
Max Holmes
Miles Bergman

These added to Elliot Yeo and Harley reid and we have much better and talented midfield/team

I really hope we dont trade away our pick number 1 this year even if it's to secure Chad Warner.

Thoughts?

Hindsight is so awkward to assess drafting/trading performance on - any team you could go back and redraft/trade for the last 8 years and flip their situation around. The Kelly thing obviously is what it is but I still back the club's call of being in a window and going hard.

I'm actually quite happy with our drafting and trading 2022 onwards, drafting especially. Once we actually realised we needed to rebuild (too late) our picks have generally looked good so far. Every club has the odd Brander and on balance Allen and Ryan was a win you'd take.

The main issue for mine is the lack of depth planning during our contending era combined with the lack of development given our awful WAFL situation probably turning some decent options into busts. We also had an oldish premiership side exacerbating it all.

On our list in 2007 (the year post-premiership) and then still on the list in our next GF (2015) include: LeCras, Hurn, McKenzie, Schofield, Waters, Priddis, Rosa, Butler, Brown. Not all played due to injury but that's still a good core of both good players and leaders to then add the tip-top talent from the pointy end of the draft.

On our list in 2019 and likely to be around in 2027 is:
Waterman, Allen (tick)
Ryan (maybe)
Duggan, Petrucelle, Cole, BWilliams, HEdwards (if they're still on the list then).

Massive gap between those groups and you can see why leading/setting standards would be tough for Duggan/Allen without that core around them driving standards.

 

[Smotie2]

We'd never have taken Sheezel because we didn't have pick 1. It's been talked about ad nauseum.

Jagga Smith is Masten 2.0. Way too small for the big leagues.

Sheezel went at pick 3 yeah?

 

[bzparkes]

Sheezel went at pick 3 yeah?

2.

GWs wanted to get ahead of us to take Cadman, because Sheezel and Wardlaw were both refusing to leave Vic.

 

[maverick001]

As someone said earlier , interesting that Cal doesn’t have Rodriquez in his top 13
Either we’re all seriously overrating him or it’s too early in the season for Cal to get good intel from recruiters

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Jagga Smith is Masten 2.0. Way too small for the big leagues.

Brent Harvey and Darcy Jones say, Hola! Smith looks elite to me. We'll wait and see. Draper was also available.

Not they we could have taken him, but I was unsure about FOS during u18s. Seeing him in one pre-season game, bro is elite.

 

[Obeanie1]

ESPN had Walley ranked at 10 yesterday

Last year some had Champion ranked late top 10.

Picked up as a Cat B rookie.

 

[bzparkes]

Brent Harvey and Darcy Jones say, Hola! Smith looks elite to me. We'll wait and see. Draper was also available.

Not they we could have taken him, but I was unsure about FOS during u18s. Seeing him in one pre-season game, bro is elite.

fOS would've been great but was gone before our pick anyway.

Harvey played in a different era and Jones isn't an inside mid. Both great players though but if Jagga ended up like them, we'd be complaining we picked yet another flanker.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The top 10 AFL Draft prospects for 2025

The 2025 AFL Draft class already has recruiters excited about its high-end talent. And with Academy players in the mix and Tasmania looming, clubs need to nail this draft. Here are Jasper Chellappah's top 10 early prospects.

www.espn.com.au

A long way to go, but if 2025 shakes out like it's looking and Rodriguez is a top 2 pick, and we will have a top 2 pick, I'll be pretty upset if we don't take him given he's a WA boy (or ideally Sharp obviously as the inside mid, but assuming we finish above Richmond)

If Warner wants to come then they can have Hawks pick and 2026 first.

 

[Aarick13]

As someone said earlier , interesting that Cal doesn’t have Rodriquez in his top 13
Either we’re all seriously overrating him or it’s too early in the season for Cal to get good intel from recruiters

I don't think Cal has much info on WA players in general throughout the year and his ranking of WA players is based heavily off under 18's *(I meant National Champs) comp and recruiters intel.

He will have been watching the Vic/Allies 18's pre-season matches which is why his top players are all from there. Except Sharp who is probably going 1 so he was in his list as well.

Fred Rod is going top 5 and I dont expect him to go past the eagles unless we have pick 1.