List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

 

[KERRPOW]

Maynard going to norf is exactly what free agency was for.

 

[DanWCE]

Maynard going to norf is exactly what free agency was for.

Glad JD arrived first to remind him of 2018

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Maynard going to norf is exactly what free agency was for.

This. AFL wanted to FA to be an equalisation mechanism, they anticipated B+ players taking more money at clubs down the ladder and clubs up the ladder not being able to match, but players were happy to take less and play at clubs in contention.

Instead the best players took pay cuts to join strong teams, exacerbating the issue.

 

[Elite Pete]

On Draper: Free agency is broken, but it’s not luck, it’s just using the system to your advantage.

We could have cashed in on Barrass and got pick 3 in 2022, instead we jumped the shark and signed him up and ended up getting cents on the dollar in a trade.

I’d argue that Oscars value as a free agent exceeds his value in a trade also, given his durability issues .

The luck part was referring to getting a father son, NGA or academy kid that is first round quality and being able double dip in first round picks with system.

North and maybe Essendon using it to their advantage and like I said good business by the Dons

 

[Elite Pete]

Early ‘can’t get an afl game’ watch.

Tunstill 29d and 2g
Ed Allen 31d 1g

Cleary at the Swans had a really good stats game. A watch as he probably leap frogs Sheldrick when his suspension is up.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Early ‘can’t get an afl game’ watch.

Tunstill 29d and 2g
Ed Allen 31d 1g

Cleary at the Swans had a really good stats game. A watch as he probably leap frogs Sheldrick when his suspension is up.

Ed Allen would be a good Hunt replacement on a wing

 

[stallon]

Ed Allan sounds just like the type of players we've liked to draft lately, big-bodied athletes

 

[Monsterdarlz]

If Warner resigns with Sydney and Allen goes as a free agent. Swalding, Rodriguez and sharp would be excellent additions

 

[WCE777]

I know it's another club but really interested to see how Keeler goes for the saints this weekend. Super high end talent who slid for a multitude of reasons.

Keeler was very impressive for a 1st game, got a big leap on him.

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Thought he looked pretty shit personally.

 

[Rowan18]

First round picks since 2020: 2 (Thilthorpe), 6 (Rachele), 17 (Michalanney), 8 (Curtin), 4 (Draper).

Granted, they already had more on their list than what we do now, but it does suggest that if get bang for buck out of your top picks, and nail a few later ones, then rebuilding is quicker than we think.

Nailing picks hasn't been our specialty though unfortunately.

Same was being said about the Crows last year. Thilthorpe was looking a bust (just needed time to finish growing) and so was Fogerty.

They'll say the same about us when Reid, Hewitt, Ginbey and Allen start firing consistently (either next year or 2027). Not to mention a potential 2nd round bonanza of Shannahan, Gross, Hough, Barnett. We'll be just fine in time.

 

[Cuzz09]

Thought he looked pretty shit personally.

please don't be negative

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[Rowan18]

Thought he looked pretty shit personally.

Is going to need a few years to build strength.

 

[WCE777]

Same was being said about the Crows last year. Thilthorpe was looking a bust (just needed time to finish growing) and so was Fogerty.

They'll say the same about us when Reid, Hewitt, Ginbey and Allen start firing consistently (either next year or 2027). Not to mention a potential 2nd round bonanza of Shannahan, Gross, Hough, Barnett. We'll be just fine in time.

Crows had 9 players 21-25 who have played 50-100 games in their team today.
WC have 3 players in the same category, put another 3 years on WC players and we will have about the same or a few more.
That's without any players being traded in to WC, 2028 finals bound imo.
WC list of players 20yo and under are a very talented group, watch out if we get a big group of them AFL quality!

 

[FKASC]

Yeah he looked a bit lost but it was a pretty frantic game to debut in. Especially as a ruck/fwd.

 

[3agles87]

This is using a statistical outlier and then trying to sell it as the rule.

Gov is the exception to about 10 rules. The only one that really applies to gov is “big guys take a bit longer”.

2021
Chesser - bust
Hough - elite
JWilliams hold/ afl standard not elite
Bazzo - permainjured
Clark - delisted

2022
Ginbey - AFL standard elite half back
Hewett - hold- AFL standard/permainjured
Barnett - hold KPP
Burgiel - delisted
Long - AFL standard, not elite
Baker - delisted
Dewar - AFL standard possible elite

2023
H. Reid - elite
A.Reid - hold/kpp possilble elite
Hall - hold possible AFL standard
Livingston - Hold KPP
Harvey Johnston - hold/possible afl standard

2024
Not enough information

After 4 years of drafting, 3 from the bottom of the ladder, that’s a poor drafting record.

Catching up on this thread, but what TF are you taking about.

Using your own assessments, over the last four years of drafting, where one year has been excluded, we have:

• 3 elite
• 2 possible elite

That itself seems pretty good.

But going deeper.

• not sure what the difference between a hold and AFL standard is, mostly confused by A. Reid who is a hold but possibly elite.
• If we assume hold is too early too tell, who knows how many are potentially elite.
• 6 holds to AFL standard.

Now 3 elite, 2 possible elites and 6 holds or AFL standards seems like a bloody good news story, but somehow that is a bad news story because you excluded the fourth draft from analysis but included in your conclusion.

Your analysis seems heavily flawed. You could argue:

• after all this drafting, we still haven’t covered our biggest weakness of getting first hands on it at the coalface.
• we can’t keep up with the joneses due to the confetti like compensation handed to to NM or the northern academies,

Sure, I would agree with that, notwithstanding our attempt to compensate for the second point by trading out high end picks was at the detriment of the first point. But rather than poor drafting as you conclude, that is the effect of the inequalities of the system.

with us now having unfettered access to our academy, hoping we can now turn that to our favour. But the tree you seem to be barking up, using your own assessment of the quality of players drafted.

 

[chaddy22]

If Warner resigns with Sydney and Allen goes as a free agent. Swalding, Rodriguez and sharp would be excellent additions

If he resigns that is good.If he re-signs maybe not.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

If we finish in the bottom 4 this year (which i think most of us agree we will) that will be our 4th consecutive year in the bottom 4, just as 2023 was Norths 4th consecutive year in the bottom 4 and that was the year that AFL decided that they warranted a priority pick package. And you could argue that North had more high recent draftees on their list already by 2023 than we have in 2025 and thus we are more in need of a pick package than they were. It will interesting to see if the club asks the question and what the excuse from the AFL is when they say No.

 

[maverick001]

Apparent rumour that Collingwood have thrown at WC.
Pay Oscar enough so WC get pick 1 as FA compo.
Other 2 players get too WC for 2 late picks?

Regardless of whether they want to or not, they will easily be paying enough for OA to trigger band 1 compo. If they're not he'll choose somewhere else.
And even then don't think there's any reason they'd feel obliged to do us a favour with Cameron or Allen. Both would be 2nd rounders at absolute worst. Prob early second rounders.
They'd be mad to let their #1 ruck go

 

[JackOutback]

Crows had 9 players 21-25 who have played 50-100 games in their team today.
WC have 3 players in the same category, put another 3 years on WC players and we will have about the same or a few more.
That's without any players being traded in to WC, 2028 finals bound imo.
WC list of players 20yo and under are a very talented group, watch out if we get a big group of them AFL quality!

If we don’t make finals until 2028, that will be seven seasons in the wilderness. We’d better be putting together a dynasty because that kind of prolonged failure doesn’t sit well at West Coast.

 

[Elite Pete]

Long term offer in front of Oscar now apparently.

 

[Obeanie1]

I did watch, and there was some really poor umpiring on display.

I never thought that was directive from AFL house to help Collingwood because that would be a special brand of paranoid thinking.

Noise of affirmation exists in Victoria for big clubs.

Not just at Optus.

Any surprise that fact gets little air time in the East?

Collingwood play an away game at home the MCG and win the free kick count 33 to 14.

Its a really tough gig Collingwoods travel schedule.

 

[new breed]

Oscar needs to stop this talk as co- captain of the club, a WCE that needs direction right now.
Sign up or give the Captainsy to Duggan while this contract talk continues , after last weeks game we don't need this going forward this season.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

If we finish in the bottom 4 this year (which i think most of us agree we will) that will be our 4th consecutive year in the bottom 4, just as 2023 was Norths 4th consecutive year in the bottom 4 and that was the year that AFL decided that they warranted a priority pick package. And you could argue that North had more high recent draftees on their list already by 2023 than we have in 2025 and thus we are more in need of a pick package than they were. It will interesting to see if the club asks the question and what the excuse from the AFL is when they say No.

Excuse = you’re a rich club, buy your way out of the problem…
/s

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

The likelihood of it happening is 0.1% but I'd love to keep Oscar, get Warner and still get Rodriguez with our first pick in the draft.

That would be a truly transformative off-season. The type that can spring board your club beyond expectations.

Given we have some F/S and NGA bids, I'd bundle Hawks first with all our 2nds and thirds to try and get GCS highest first and then use that as the trade - or some other scenario that allows us to keep this years first.

In 2021 Adelaide told Sydney that their first was not on the table for Dawson. It's an unlikely scenario, but I'd love for us to do the same.