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Some are arguing that. But I've seen plenty on here arguing the protest was a dumb idea because we are in the middle of a pandemic and in the case of Victoria we have numbers that need to be watched. Yet people have done nothing but criticise that argument, some even calling them racist. Some of these posters have been telling everyone for months to stay home. Talk about hypocrisy.
We've got a long history in Australia of saying we aren't racist while doing racist things.

We didn't get sweet **** all negative commentary about the antivax 5G antilock down protests that happened during stage 3 restrictions.

From politicians, the police, the media or the majority of people on social media.

We even had the PM say it was a few country and people could protest.

Weeks later as we are starting to open back up, as they are announcing returns of crowd to rugby matches those same people are saying don't protest BLM it's not the right time.

Big bunch of bullshit hypocrisy right there. Straight into wedge politics and on we go with sky and the rest of the Murdoch empire trying to blame those protests for everything.

Why all the outrage about this? The mirror held up to the majority of Australians, the uncomfortable thoughts and conversations. Just like the Adam Goodes situation, just like so many others.

Scotty saying we didn't have slavery so no need to follow an American protest, like we don't have racial inequality or systemic issues here.

We've got ****ing dipshits like Alexander Downer arguing it wasn't slavery because they called it something else, **** me dead.

People have a right to protest whether you agree or join them doesn't matter they have that right

All of the bullshit coming down on them that didn't come down on the people protesting for Bill Gates to be arrested shows we need these kinds of protests because we are still run by a bunch of old white campaigners who'd rather we blame minorities than them.

So yeah, I've got more time for people who protested for BLM than some dickhead bitching that he can't go to the footy because of those protestors.
 
We've got a long history in Australia of saying we aren't racist while doing racist things.

We didn't get sweet fu** all negative commentary about the antivax 5G antilock down protests that happened during stage 3 restrictions.

From politicians, the police, the media or the majority of people on social media.

We even had the PM say it was a few country and people could protest.

Weeks later as we are starting to open back up, as they are announcing returns of crowd to rugby matches those same people are saying don't protest BLM it's not the right time.

Big bunch of bullshit hypocrisy right there. Straight into wedge politics and on we go with sky and the rest of the Murdoch empire trying to blame those protests for everything.

Why all the outrage about this? The mirror held up to the majority of Australians, the uncomfortable thoughts and conversations. Just like the Adam Goodes situation, just like so many others.

Scotty saying we didn't have slavery so no need to follow an American protest, like we don't have racial inequality or systemic issues here.

We've got ******* dipshits like Alexander Downer arguing it wasn't slavery because they called it something else, fu** me dead.

People have a right to protest whether you agree or join them doesn't matter they have that right

All of the bullshit coming down on them that didn't come down on the people protesting for Bill Gates to be arrested shows we need these kinds of protests because we are still run by a bunch of old white campaigners who'd rather we blame minorities than them.

So yeah, I've got more time for people who protested for BLM than some dickhead bitching that he can't go to the footy because of those protestors.
Nice rant about stuff that has nothing to do with the people on Bigfooty which is what I was talking about. You also must have an incredibly selective memory because the moron 5G protests made the front of the news and were absolutely a talking point everywhere. They didn't cop as much criticism for a pretty bloody obvious reason I would have thought. It wasn't thousands of people and weeks later the state wasn't going back on the easing of restrictions. It was a smaller amount of people that were problematic but didn't create nearly the same logistical nightmare that the Black Lives Matter creates for authorities as they try to keep the virus accounted for.

Like it or not a massive protest in the middle of a pandemic sent a horrible message about social distancing and gatherings. As seen by all the sheer stupidity we've had during this pandemic here in relation to panic buying, breaking isolation etc, something like a big protest happening is absolutely sending a bad message that will impact their behaviour.

Anyone who has gathered in large numbers during the middle of this pandemic is a moron. End of story.

People lecturing everyone on here for months about staying home and then telling them a few months later a protest is okay because of injustices done to Indigenous people is hilariously hypocritical and contradictory.
 
Someone at my workplace got made redundant. The workplace is ok financially, but that’s how the cards fell.

Timing for that person absolutely sucks....
 

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Nice rant about stuff that has nothing to do about the people on Bigfooty which is what I was talking about. You also must have an incredibly selective memory because the moron 5G protests made the front of the news and were absolutely a talking point everywhere. They didn't cop as much criticism for a pretty bloody obvious reason I would have thought. It wasn't thousands of people and weeks later the state wasn't going back on the easing of restrictions. It was a smaller amount of people that were problematic but didn't create nearly the same logistical nightmare that the Black Lives Matter creates for authorities as they try to keep the virus accounted for.

Like it or not a massive protest in the middle of a pandemic sent a horrible message about social distancing and gatherings. As seen by all the sheer stupidity we've had during this pandemic here in relation to panic buying, breaking isolation etc, something like a big protest happening is absolutely sending a bad message that will impact their behaviour.

Anyone who has gathered in large numbers during the middle of this pandemic is a moron. End of story.
You think it wasn't about people on big footy? We've got a bunch of racist campaigners on here same as on every social media platform.

People that want to blame the protests for shit that had absolutely nothing to do with the protests.

People are ****ing morons look at the shops every day and all the people hanging out that don't need to be there and aren't doing the right thing.

But yeah it's all about the people protesting against systemic racism right? They are the problem those morons right? Not the ones that are the cause of it.
 
You think it wasn't about people on big footy? We've got a bunch of racist campaigners on here same as on every social media platform.

People that want to blame the protests for sh*t that had absolutely nothing to do with the protests.

People are ******* morons look at the shops every day and all the people hanging out that don't need to be there and aren't doing the right thing.

But yeah it's all about the people protesting against systemic racism right? They are the problem those morons right? Not the ones that are the cause of it.
I've said people going to the shops and hanging out are morons too. I work at shops and have put up with nothing but morons for month who were hellbent on turning their shop into a social outing, an absolute ridiculous case of taking the piss and potentially endangering others.

The fact you cannot seem to fathom that a gathering of thousands in the middle of a pandemic is an incredibly stupid thing to do defies belief. It doesn't matter what they are protesting for. I will remind you that the government and health officers constantly have been telling us the last thing we would see again is mass gatherings because of the great danger they pose to the community due to the potential for a mass outbreak resulting from thousands gathering in close confinement. It's not a joke. We are in the middle of a once in a century type event that is having a catastrophic impact on everyone, including Indigenous Australians. Yes some of the criticism now may be over the top but anyone gathering in large numbers deserves criticism right now. If they haven't spread the virus in significant numbers then it is a lucky break for Victoria. It doesn't make a large gathering any less moronic.

Fat lot of good those protests do if they spread the virus heaps. Last time I checked the Indigenous community are impacted by Coronavirus too. In fact they have been classified by the government as high risk.
 
I've said people going to the shops and hanging out are morons too. I work at shops and have put up with nothing but morons for month who were hellbent on turning their shop into a social outing, an absolute ridiculous case of taking the piss and potentially endangering others.

The fact you cannot seem to fathom that a gathering of thousands in the middle of a pandemic is an incredibly stupid thing to do defies belief. It doesn't matter what they are protesting for. I will remind you that the government and health officers constantly have been telling us the last thing we would see again is mass gatherings because of the great danger they pose to the community due to the potential for a mass outbreak resulting from thousands gathering in close confinement. It's not a joke. We are in the middle of a once in a century type event that is having a catastrophic impact on everyone, including Indigenous Australians. Yes some of the criticism now may be over the top but anyone gathering in large numbers deserves criticism right now. If they haven't spread the virus in significant numbers then it is a lucky break for Victoria. It doesn't make a large gathering any less moronic.

Fat lot of good those protests do if they spread the virus heaps. Last time I checked the Indigenous community are impacted by Coronavirus too. In fact they have been classified by the government as high risk.
Yeah but WA are going to have 30k at the footy soon and everyone seems cool with that.

I've never said the protests were a good idea but it's amazing how they've become the excuse for everything stupid people are doing.

They were going to happen no matter what the governments did but apparently it's Dan's fault they happened so clearly he's to blame for this second wave along with the protestors.

And this push has been started by surprise the libs both federal and state.

Elements of those parties did not want the protests happening and not for public safety when you look at who has been loudest.

If you can't acknowledge the racism involved in this particular target being picked for all blame you probably thought not a single person booing Goodes was racist.

People rationalise that away and they are using these protests to do it again
 
Yeah but WA are going to have 30k at the footy soon and everyone seems cool with that.
Why wouldn't they be? I can't really comment on other states media but the Victorian protesters copped it because we are one of the states where the virus now very clearly is still problematic. WA is completely different as evidenced by the government thinking mass gatherings are now safe. Victoria is miles off that now unfortunately at seems so no shit the level of outrage is different.
I've never said the protests were a good idea but it's amazing how they've become the excuse for everything stupid people are doing.
Stupid people don't need much inspiration. One store having idiots rushing to get toilet paper is enough to send some into a frenzy.


And this push has been started by surprise the libs both federal and state.

Elements of those parties did not want the protests happening and not for public safety when you look at who has been loudest.

If you can't acknowledge the racism involved in this particular target being picked for all blame you probably thought not a single person booing Goodes was racist.

People rationalise that away and they are using these protests to do it again
Or maybe the libs, particularly at federal level want to do everything they can to ensure the virus doesn't run rampant in this country. It would be killing them the longer they have to keep handing out money. It's not like people are criticising some pissy little action here. A mass gathering is probably the most dangerous thing you could do during a pandemic. Of course there's going to be some with racist intentions, but on here and elsewhere those defending the protests want to be incredibly simplistic and put it all down to racism. Just a complete garbage argument. Maybe people are fed up with how shit life is for everyone and doesn't want a massive crowd potentially prolonging the suffering even more, especially in a country where we have kept numbers so low. Things don't always have to be about politics or race.

I don't understand how you can't see why people would be furious when there's a massive protest in the middle of a pandemic right after Victorians have been forced to stay home as much as possible for months in order to protest the vulnerable and stop the spread of Coronavirus, something this protest very easily could have done the opposite of. It's not like these protesters decided to keep away from people and all get tested either. I had someone at my work go to the protest and then come to work twice, potentially endangering hundreds of random people. It wasn't until the news broke that someone at the protest had the virus that she decided to get tested. That's shithouse.

As for Goodes that's just hilarious. I've done nothing but defend Goodes for years on this website. Nice wrong assumption.
 
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What did people think about Sam Newman stating some facts and calling Floyd a piece of shit? I don’t think his past warranted being suffocated to death and I also don’t think this was relevant to how he was dealt with.
 
Why wouldn't they be? I can't really comment on other states media but the Victorian protesters copped it because we are one of the states where the virus now very clearly is still problematic. WA is completely different as evidenced by the government thinking mass gatherings are now safe. Victoria is miles off that now unfortunately at seems so no sh*t the level of outrage is different.

Stupid people don't need much inspiration. One store having idiots rushing to get toilet paper is enough to send some into a frenzy.



Or maybe the libs, particularly at federal level want to do everything they can to ensure the virus doesn't run rampant in this country. It would be killing them the longer they have to keep handing out money. It's not like people are criticising some pissy little action here. A mass gathering is probably the most dangerous thing you could do during a pandemic. Of course there's going to be some with racist intentions, but on here and elsewhere those defending the protests want to be incredibly simplistic and put it all down to racism. Just a complete garbage argument. Maybe people are fed up with how sh*t life is for everyone and doesn't want a massive crowd potentially prolonging the suffering even more, especially in a country where we have kept numbers so low. Things don't always have to be about politics or race.

I don't understand how you can't see why people would be furious when there's a massive protest in the middle of a pandemic right after Victorians have been forced to stay home as much as possible for months in order to protest the vulnerable and stop the spread of Coronavirus, something this protest very easily could have done the opposite of. It's not like these protesters decided to keep away from people and all get tested either. I had someone at my work go to the protest and then come to work twice, potentially endangering hundreds of random people. It wasn't until the news broke that someone at the protest had the virus that she decided to get tested. That's shithouse.

As for Goodes that's just hilarious. I've done nothing but defend Goodes for years on this website. Nice wrong assumption.
Not suggesting you booed Goodes. Not saying everyone against the protests was racist.

Saying it's the kind of topic that we know divides this country and the politicians did what they do in that situation. They drove a wedge.

They took the conversation straight to shit and everyone else goes along.

The protest is not the cause of the current issues in Victoria as much as it is being portrayed as it by certain sections of the media and certain politicians who have form in this area.

I didn't want people to protest during the pandemic but I understand that there is no end in sight to either the pandemic or the issues of systemic racism so why would they wait when it's something a lot of them live with daily?

That's the issue I'm seeing overlooked time and time again by people that want them to stay home and stay quiet
 
FMD, how can Cardinia be a hotspot with 5 active cases across all these suburbs which cover one massive area.

Suburbs: Avonsleigh, Bayles, Beaconsfield Upper, Bunyip, Bunyip North, Caldermeade, Cardinia, Catani, Clematis, Cockatoo, Cora Lynn, Dalmore, Dewhurst, Garfield, Garfield North, Gembrook, Guys Hill, Iona, Koo Wee Rup, Koo Wee Rup North, Lang Lang East, Maryknoll, Monomeith, Mount Burnett, Nangana, Nar Nar Goon, Nar Nar Goon North, Officer, Officer South, Pakenham, Pakenham South, Pakenham Upper, Rythdale, Tonimbuk, Tynong, Tynong North, Vervale and Yannathan. As well as parts of Beaconsfield, Emerald, Heath Hill, Lang Lang, Longwarry, Menzies Creek, Modella, Nyora, and Tooradin.

Who the hell decided that, i know they are going to release actual suburbs but wow wee.

And further more, the army is getting called in for these numbers

As of today, the number of active virus cases in Brimbank sat at 20, followed by Hume at 14, Casey at nine, Moreland at eight, Cardinia at five and Darebin at four.

What the hell is going on, if you spoke to someone from overseas and said we are bringing in the army to help with the virus and you quoted these numbers, the person overseas would be in uncontrollable hysterical laughter.
 
Anyone who has gathered in large numbers during the middle of this pandemic is a moron. End of story

They were going to happen no matter what the governments did but apparently it's Dan's fault they happened so clearly he's to blame for this second wave along with the protestors.

These two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

I think people protesting BLM could have done so in a better way, or time, than a mass gathering right now given the risk, especially since many of the people I saw most avidly posting on social media about BLM were also flat out on Stay Safe, Stay Home. Very hypocritical.

But Daniel Andrews (and other state governments) weren’t in a position to lawfully stop them happening. So short of turning in to an authoritarian police state, they had little option but to let it be and minimise the potential for the violence we’ve seen overseas.
 

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I know someone whose husband works at the Laverton DC where the single case was found.
The infected male had his wife already in quarantine with the virus but he still turned up to work, surely that is a breach of the quarantine restrictions. Anyway, the majority of the staff at the Laverton DC have now taken leave.
 
FMD, how can Cardinia be a hotspot with 5 active cases across all these suburbs which cover one massive area.

Suburbs: Avonsleigh, Bayles, Beaconsfield Upper, Bunyip, Bunyip North, Caldermeade, Cardinia, Catani, Clematis, Cockatoo, Cora Lynn, Dalmore, Dewhurst, Garfield, Garfield North, Gembrook, Guys Hill, Iona, Koo Wee Rup, Koo Wee Rup North, Lang Lang East, Maryknoll, Monomeith, Mount Burnett, Nangana, Nar Nar Goon, Nar Nar Goon North, Officer, Officer South, Pakenham, Pakenham South, Pakenham Upper, Rythdale, Tonimbuk, Tynong, Tynong North, Vervale and Yannathan. As well as parts of Beaconsfield, Emerald, Heath Hill, Lang Lang, Longwarry, Menzies Creek, Modella, Nyora, and Tooradin.

Who the hell decided that, i know they are going to release actual suburbs but wow wee.

And further more, the army is getting called in for these numbers

As of today, the number of active virus cases in Brimbank sat at 20, followed by Hume at 14, Casey at nine, Moreland at eight, Cardinia at five and Darebin at four.

What the hell is going on, if you spoke to someone from overseas and said we are bringing in the army to help with the virus and you quoted these numbers, the person overseas would be in uncontrollable hysterical laughter.
The odds are the active cases are in one of two suburbs. Pakenham or Officer.
 
What did people think about Sam Newman stating some facts and calling Floyd a piece of sh*t? I don’t think his past warranted being suffocated to death and I also don’t think this was relevant to how he was dealt with.

Sam said he didn't deserve to die the way he did but he also said he didn't deserve to be seen as an innocent victim or a martyr when he had been to jail multiple times for various crimes including holding up a pregnant woman at knifepoint.
 
FMD, how can Cardinia be a hotspot with 5 active cases across all these suburbs which cover one massive area.

Suburbs: Avonsleigh, Bayles, Beaconsfield Upper, Bunyip, Bunyip North, Caldermeade, Cardinia, Catani, Clematis, Cockatoo, Cora Lynn, Dalmore, Dewhurst, Garfield, Garfield North, Gembrook, Guys Hill, Iona, Koo Wee Rup, Koo Wee Rup North, Lang Lang East, Maryknoll, Monomeith, Mount Burnett, Nangana, Nar Nar Goon, Nar Nar Goon North, Officer, Officer South, Pakenham, Pakenham South, Pakenham Upper, Rythdale, Tonimbuk, Tynong, Tynong North, Vervale and Yannathan. As well as parts of Beaconsfield, Emerald, Heath Hill, Lang Lang, Longwarry, Menzies Creek, Modella, Nyora, and Tooradin.

Who the hell decided that, i know they are going to release actual suburbs but wow wee.

And further more, the army is getting called in for these numbers

As of today, the number of active virus cases in Brimbank sat at 20, followed by Hume at 14, Casey at nine, Moreland at eight, Cardinia at five and Darebin at four.

What the hell is going on, if you spoke to someone from overseas and said we are bringing in the army to help with the virus and you quoted these numbers, the person overseas would be in uncontrollable hysterical laughter.

I was fairly sure the ADF being called in was meant entirely as a wake-up call to get people back to observing the guidelines

Though apparently NSW have been using them to guard hotels? WTF? Do we not have police/PSOs that they could use instead?
 
What the hell is going on, if you spoke to someone from overseas and said we are bringing in the army to help with the virus and you quoted these numbers, the person overseas would be in uncontrollable hysterical laughter.

Yeah, I'm a bit like that to be honest. Was talking to my Dad (in Victoria) last week and it didn't make sense to me. Numbers are comparable to what we're seeing in British Columbia but we're going into phase 3 reopening this week. I've been in the office and kids have been at daycare for weeks. Pubs, restaurants, playgrounds, sprayparks, spas and cinemas are open. Kids are back in sport. We're off for a little holiday next week and the Premier is calling for people from other Provinces to come visit.
 
There will likely be shortages of refrigerated goods at Coles over the next fortnight.
I know someone whose husband works at the Laverton DC where the single case was found.
The infected male had his wife already in quarantine with the virus but he still turned up to work, surely that is a breach of the quarantine restrictions. Anyway, the majority of the staff at the Laverton DC have now taken leave.
 
Are we getting told the true story here, what is the tipping point that makes someone positive.

Newborn triplets positive to COVID-19 despite parents not being infected


How the hell can newborns freshly out of the womb be positive to a new virus when it's parents are not even infected, how many other people in the world have been falsely diagnosed.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/newb...onavirus/98306cc5-cc05-4dc4-9510-1c9d9cd9fafb
 
Sam said he didn't deserve to die the way he did but he also said he didn't deserve to be seen as an innocent victim or a martyr when he had been to jail multiple times for various crimes including holding up a pregnant woman at knifepoint.
Unless he was in the process of committing a capital crime he was an innocent victim. Thats how, you know, being released from prison works.
 
What did people think about Sam Newman stating some facts and calling Floyd a piece of sh*t? I don’t think his past warranted being suffocated to death and I also don’t think this was relevant to how he was dealt with.
He never said he deserved to die, he said the opposite. He's 100% right that GF wasn't a good person and isn't the hero he's being made out to be

Though WTF does this have to do with covid?!
 
He never said he deserved to die, he said the opposite. He's 100% right that GF wasn't a good person and isn't the hero he's being made out to be
I don't think there's anything heroic about being killed by a cop. He's a victim pure and simple.
 
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