Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

Has the coronavirus outbreak made you reconsider attending the footy

  • Yes

    Votes: 285 44.9%
  • No

    Votes: 350 55.1%

  • Total voters
    635

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There is no group less likely to get it than super fit professional athletes.
Bullshit. The people who stay inside are less likely to get it.

The super fit professional athletes will get it, feel no physical effects, then spread it around the country while they're flying interstate to chase a ball around for an hour or two.
 

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This isn't true at all. And most clubs still have a fair few games to go (plus European fixtures/playoffs for promotion and relegation which are huge). There is a serious disconnect between how much money people think soccer clubs make and how much money they actually have. Same goes for the FA's and it's been reported numerous times FIFA and UEFA aren't going to do much for the leagues (UEFA are trying to get the clubs to pay short of 300 million Euros for postponing the Euros). Several people involved with English lower league clubs have also said numerous times that the EPL nor the clubs will help the lower leagues out.
take it to the soccer threads.
 
The spike in cases whilst significant, is less than anticipated and keeps us below that curve with what our health system can handle hence the reason no lock down.. We are doing ok

Victoria and especially New South Wales are on current trends looking likely to double confirmed cases every 3 days. Those two states are not doing ok at all.

We are in a period of accelaration when comes to COVID 19 transmission. Check the graph and reconsider your assessment that we are "flattening the curve" with current measures.

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We are only conservatively 30,500 cases fewer but yep we are near Italy....

Hysteria is going over the top. It’s 6 months maybe 12 of bad times that’s it.
I am talking about restrictions on movements. Not cases.

Open your bloody eyes. In the space of a week we’ve gone from massive footy crowds maybe being prohibited to 100 people to 50. Pubs, bars, restaurants now shutting down.

6-12 months of this will be ****ing awful. Far easier to say it won’t be that bad. Plenty of people are going to be out of work, stuck at home with no way to get work, unable to buy groceries because they can’t afford them or every ****wit in the country has panic bought.

Reality will be a lot different.
 
take it to the soccer threads.

Why? Regardless of what most people seem to think a lot of soccer players would earn roughly the same or less then the average AFL player and postponing their seasons have a lot of financial ramifications for literally millions of people and their clubs across Europe. The argument over there isn't "if we don't play clubs die" it's "this coronavius thing is serious we should wait until it goes away".

It's definitely a fair comparison to point out.
 
Exactly. The bigger risk was and is to the broader population - and with no crowds that goes away. Sure there is some risk, but there is no group less likely to get it than super fit professional athletes.
So the 7 NBA blokes is just an accident?
 

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Should be banned

They banned wet markets in Guangzhou after SARS and it came back the next year as the PRC turned a blind eye.

The same will happen with this - empty words and laws from the PRC as for them a global pandemic is not their problem. Wuhan will have their wet markets re-open in 2021. I am a leftie but I disagree with those that will inevitably be apologists for the PRC's handling of the outbreak.
 
I am talking about restrictions on movements. Not cases.

Open your bloody eyes. In the space of a week we’ve gone from massive footy crowds maybe being prohibited to 100 people to 50. Pubs, bars, restaurants now shutting down.

6-12 months of this will be ******* awful. Far easier to say it won’t be that bad. Reality will be a lot different.

It is 12 months that is it. It’s not the world ending we aren’t going to see the world go up in flames. For most of us it’s purely a small cold that goes away in a day or so. Have no reason to stop working during this period albeit some may be at home.

Fast forward to October this year and it should almost be past with a vaccine to fix it.
 
falling asleep at the desk, waiting for the AFL to make a decision, its not that hard to say yes or no to Round 1 going ahead, no one asked you to make a call on the entire season
 
So in Italy, the worst of the worst, the average age of death is 80.3 and the youngest person to die was 39. Because he got the virus on top of already having cancer.

What a disaster. There is going to be chaos a month from now when almost nobody under 80 has died, while a million people have lost their jobs or worse and are facing homelessness and suicide

So you view is stuff em, let's just kill off a few thousand vulnerable people and be done with it.

Um......no. Human sacrifices went out of vogue a while ago mate.

The govt and banks will need to step in and step up to assist everyone.
 
1. Orthopaedic surgeons aren't idiots - they have extensive surgical training and part of that surgical training generally includes exposure to critical care units. You make it sound like they haven't seen a ventilator before and they would not be managing anything more "medical" without input from a treating physician.
2. This is just wrong. I personally know multiple final year medical students and this just isn't happening - I know for a fact one Victorian medical school has shifted all of their learning to electronic so these final year students are missing out on vital clinical exposure. They are absolutely not being graduated early - some are being asked to assist in fever clinics at a couple of health services UNDER SUPERVISION but the tasks being requested of them are not beyond the scope you would expect of a final year normally (history taking, IVC insertion etc)
3. In the process of happening, yes.
4. Wrong, patients are triaged on the severity of the illness. A 25 year old with a cough and low grade fever is a low priority - they get sent to fever clinic to be swabbed and are likely sent home. A 65 year old with comorbid lung disease and suspected pneumonia is a higher priority.

Can I just ask what your information source is? I am a junior doctor and this is what happens at my health service so...

I was referring to what's happening in Italy.

And yes, that is what I am saying about ortho surgeons. If you're a junior doctor then you would know that two anaesthetists (consultant and registrar) and one anaesthetic nurse manage an airway during surgery. After surgery an airway is managed by pacu if required or ICU. Surgeons do not manage airways and always defer to anaesthetics or intensive care - they only take responsibility for the surgical management.

Source I will discuss in private only, to a limited extent, and I want to make it clear that any opinions are my own and not that of another person or organisation.
 
Becoming obvious this is some going to be some sort of AFL/Channel 7 cash grab announcement on the news.

Gil looooooves having the AFL in the news. See floating the idea of shorter half time during the offseason for example. He is getting every bit of air time and conversation/debate he possibly can on this.
 
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