Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

Has the coronavirus outbreak made you reconsider attending the footy

  • Yes

    Votes: 285 44.9%
  • No

    Votes: 350 55.1%

  • Total voters
    635

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Haha. Dickheads who can't do maths apparently.

Have fun living in your bunker

I've got a rock that keeps tigers away aswell if you're interested
Yes quite right.

The thing is that the numbers infected would cetainly be undereported. Thus the actual death rate would probably be lower again.

Anyway, given time we'll all soon find out😔
 
Jesus H Christ.

It's incredibly infectious and lethal. That's why whole cities are being shut down. That's why medical experts, ie, not dickheads online, are issuing very serious warnings about it.

So here's a stat for you:

Regular kinds of flu have mortality rate of 0.1%. Coronavirus is 2.5%.

Yes, it is 250 times more lethal than routine influenzas.
Actually, it's a 4% mortality rate for those over the age of 75 with the common flu. With coronavirus it's closer to 2%, and the majority of its victims are over 75 with comorbidities.

It's mostly affecting the elderly as far as deaths are concerned.

The only thing that makes coronavirus worse is that there's no vaccine yet.

It's morbid, but the only good thing about it is that it's checking population growth. Malthus would argue it's natural, normal and necessary.
 

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Here is a latest article that gives it some balance on being cautionary but at the same time not to be overly alarmed at this stage:

The main thing I want to point out, is that if you're talking infections, there are 2 main things to consider:
1. How transmissable is it? ie. the probability of spread or the level of contagiousness.
2. How severe is it? So usually, we look at the mortality rates as well as the level of significant long-term complications.

So whilst it seems to be spreading at a significant rate, the level of severity is still at a level of confusion. To put things in context, we need to look at how things fare in our country thus far:
https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert (latest report as of yesterday)
"As at 06:30 hrs on 29 February 2020, we have 25 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia:
  • 9 in Queensland
  • 4 in New South Wales
  • 7 in Victoria
  • 3 in South Australia
  • 2 in Western Australia
15 of these cases are reported to have recovered. The remaining cases are in a stable condition.

9 cases are associated with the Diamond Princess repatriation flight from Japan."

So 25 cases, and not one single death at this stage.

Also, the mortality rate of this Corona virus is not a definitive statistic at this stage. It can increase or decrease as time moves on, with the current trend looking like the mortality rate is declining with all countries being on the alert and using containment measures.

"Across the world, there have been about 84,117 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19) and 2,872 reported deaths. Of confirmed cases reported globally, the case fatality rate is approximately 3.4%. The case fatality rate in countries and regions outside mainland China is 1.6%"

Also, the mortality rate differs from country to country, with current stats showing 1.6% mortality of all countries outside of China. However the mortality rate would be much lower in non-Asian continents, with Australia currently one of the countries with numbers affected but at 0% mortality rate thus far.

Hopefully the above keeps things in perspective!
 
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That wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact Ebola and zika killed black and brown people as opposed to carona effecting white people would it?
Perhaps you should look up the meanings of epidemic and pandemic. Or better still break down the words and look up pan, demic and epi

Is your automatic or default response to things you don’t understand to always cry “rascist”?
 
Avoidijg offending the Chinese is more important than player safety.
Apart from one sponsor, the Chinese don't exactly care what the AFL does.

Avoiding offending sponsors, Chinese or otherwise, is more important than player safety. Now that's something everyone at AFL House would (privately) agree with. Do so publicly might offend a sponsor.
 
Read this recently, apparently from a medical person who works in China:

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasise enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
 
Here is a latest article that gives it some balance on being cautionary but at the same time not to be overly alarmed at this stage:

The main thing I want to point out, is that if you're talking infections, there are 2 main things to consider:
1. How transmissable is it? ie. the probability of spread or the level of contagiousness.
2. How severe is it? So usually, we look at the mortality rates as well as the level of significant long-term complications.

So whilst it seems to be spreading at a significant rate, the level of severity is still at a level of confusion. To put things in context, we need to look at how things fare in our country thus far:
https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert (latest report as of yesterday)
"As at 06:30 hrs on 29 February 2020, we have 25 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia:
  • 9 in Queensland
  • 4 in New South Wales
  • 7 in Victoria
  • 3 in South Australia
  • 2 in Western Australia
15 of these cases are reported to have recovered. The remaining cases are in a stable condition.

9 cases are associated with the Diamond Princess repatriation flight from Japan."

So 25 cases, and not one single death at this stage.

Also, the mortality rate of this Corona virus is not a definitive statistic at this stage. It can increase or decrease as time moves on, with the current trend looking like the mortality rate is declining with all countries being on the alert and using containment measures.

"Across the world, there have been about 84,117 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19) and 2,872 reported deaths. Of confirmed cases reported globally, the case fatality rate is approximately 3.4%. The case fatality rate in countries and regions outside mainland China is 1.6%"

Also, the mortality rate differs from country to country, with current stats showing 1.6% mortality of all countries outside of China. However the mortality rate would be much lower in non-Asian continents, with Australia currently one of the countries with numbers affected but at 0% mortality rate thus far.

Hopefully the above keeps things in perspective!
Thank you.
One of the startling numbers is the actual numbers of people tested. In USA around 500 (Five hundred), Australia I am not sure, and where I live in SEAsia with 16 cases no deaths, there is no information available. It looks like testing us minimal.

So, I guess this could mean that:
-the number of asymptomatic cases is unknown, which could in turn mean the death rate is lower than suggested.
-or that we are sitting on a time bomb in terms of the number of people who will get the virus.
-or other scenarios I haven't thought of.

One of the troubling things is the unknown future of the virus. Uncertainty breeds worry and panic.



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One of the startling numbers is the actual numbers of people tested. In USA around 500 (Five hundred), Australia I am not sure, and where I live in SEAsia with 16 cases no deaths, there is no information available. It looks like testing us minimal.

So, I guess this could mean that:
-the number of asymptomatic cases is unknown, which could in turn mean the death rate is lower than suggested.
-or that we are sitting on a time bomb in terms of the number of people who will get the virus.
-or other scenarios I haven't thought of.

One of the troubling things is the unknown future of the virus. Uncertainty breeds worry and panic.



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Unfortunately a large chunk of the population refuse to look at the ABC, preferring to believe it is a left wing conspiracy group.

Thus they will read social media rubbish. Like the Climate 'debate', they won't believe the science. They rather stock up on toilet paper, tins of baked beans & ammo!!!
 
So 25 cases, and not one single death at this stage.

We're on the board.
Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy played down the likelihood of more bans on Saturday for other countries, explaining "it's not possible to further isolate Australia", and that the focus should be on detection and containment instead.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...-as-confirmed-cases-rise-20200301-p545qn.html

Very much resembles the modern approach to firefighting which failed us badly this summer.
 
Thank you.
One of the startling numbers is the actual numbers of people tested. In USA around 500 (Five hundred), Australia I am not sure, and where I live in SEAsia with 16 cases no deaths, there is no information available. It looks like testing us minimal.

So, I guess this could mean that:
-the number of asymptomatic cases is unknown, which could in turn mean the death rate is lower than suggested.
-or that we are sitting on a time bomb in terms of the number of people who will get the virus.
-or other scenarios I haven't thought of.

One of the troubling things is the unknown future of the virus. Uncertainty breeds worry and panic.



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Yes, the troubling issue is most likely the uncertainty at this stage. For now, the stats are comforting that containment is more likely probable than not probable (at least in Australia). And I’m referring to mortality rates than transmission rates.
 
We're on the board.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...-as-confirmed-cases-rise-20200301-p545qn.html

Very much resembles the modern approach to firefighting which failed us badly this summer.
This isn’t an all or nothing approach. We need to remain cautious but understand we haven’t got unlimited resources to “contain” the transmission. For instance, we have a finite number of hospitals and doctors, and a finite amount of time for the health professionals to test everyone with coughs and sore throats.
 
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