Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

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[Xtreme]

I dont think the 44 players who are about to kneel arr unemployed

I was referring to the protesters from last weekend

The 44 players are sports participants, the vast majority have no career prospects outside of football

 

[carloss]

Dedicated and what people call quotas for training/education for 5/10 years for a circuit breaker for kids who are talented bur just dont the chance.

Quotas based on race?

 

[Upgrayedd]

I was referring to the protesters from last weekend

The 44 players are sports participants, the vast majority have no career prospects outside of football

Yeah never heard of well payed AFL players from richmond or Collingwood not falling into property investment.

 

[The King!]

Nice organised statement I guess

Will appeal to some, won’t to others, ultimately does nothing

 

[Les Malone]

The great man himself George Floyd would be very satisfied with the AFL taking this stance.

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

All Votes Matter strikes during an election year once again, but this time it coincided with the death of a 7 time jailed felon who once robbed a pregnant woman in her home with a gun.

Thanks for bringing politics into teh sporting spotlight once again AFL....

 

[DapperJong]

yes Underarm keep going

 

[Upgrayedd]

Can you give example how a quota helps a talented kid that doesn't have a chance?

Quotas never work if education and % of demographics are not considered. Hiring quota have never worked however educational and identifying talent has never really been pushed.
Quotas for "hey look we have 10% of our police force as non whites" looks great in a report but unless you are truly identifying whats the barrier to a level playing field. Yeah its shit. The barrier is often poverty and oppotunity

Quotas are a pretty new concept. SA has varying degrees. I disagree with say, example of 56% have to be coloured, however at a junior level you need to push for inclusion and funding can be accessed to help get a young aboriginal kid who may be extremely talented but lacking in a stable home a leg up to the level playing field. Even usin cricket as an example, fees and equipment can be a massive barrier for youth. And yes 100% its not just a blacl/white issue, and class comes back to it where it isnt just a black/white issue

 

[Les Malone]

All Votes Matter strikes during an election year once again, but this time it coincided with the death of a 7 time jailed felon who once robbed a pregnant woman in her home with a gun.

Thanks for bringing politics into teh sporting spotlight once again AFL....

George will be sadly missed by his many compatriot rioters and street thugs and also white middle class soy boy statue destroyers, i feel quite a few have posted their wise words of wokeness in this thread.

 

[Upgrayedd]

All Votes Matter strikes during an election year once again, but this time it coincided with the death of a 7 time jailed felon who once robbed a pregnant woman in her home with a gun.

Thanks for bringing politics into teh sporting spotlight once again AFL....

Didn't realise the sentance for that was to be choked to death under a knee a few years later?

 

[Black white]

Can we make this a round before all the rounds are taken with another issue to highlight.

 

[Hawkk]

All Votes Matter strikes during an election year once again, but this time it coincided with the death of a 7 time jailed felon who once robbed a pregnant woman in her home with a gun.

Thanks for bringing politics into teh sporting spotlight once again AFL....

Don't forget the vigils...

At the same time a police officer (of african american origin) was murdered during the protests...

Sister of officer killed in Oakland riots condemns George Floyd killing

The sister of a Federal Protective Services officer killed during riots in Oakland earlier this month decried his death in testimony before a congressional committee Wednesday — but also forcefully…

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Of course the greatest irony of all is to attend a mass protest during a time of pandemic for a virus which seemingly kills a much higher portion of the people that you are protesting to support...

If you wanted to virtue signal, chase likes or improve your brand equity surely it would have been more sensible to pour a cold bucket of ice on your head and be done with it?

 

[revo333]

My issue is they take the knee and then 2 months later when the issue isn't social trending it gets forgotten and then 5 years later here we go again...

 

[The Goon]

George will be sadly missed by his many compatriot rioters and street thugs and also white middle class soy boy statue destroyers, i feel quite a few have posted their wise words of wokeness in this thread.

Quite a lot of shit has been posted in this thread indeed.

 

[Upgrayedd]

My issue is they take the knee and then 2 months later when the issue isn't social trending it gets forgotten and then 5 years later here we go again...

That's why there has to be so much focus and energy attached to this. Shit cant keep happening. You saw the candidate of the presidency call Colin a son of a bitch for it and it goes away it needs to continue for months before meaningful chance will even be negotiated

 

[Ok Boomer]

Meh, gives the clubs some woke points while not achieving anything but it doesn't hurt anyone either.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Meh, gives the clubs some woke points while not achieving anything but it doesn't hurt anyone either.

It may not hurt anyone. But what happens if a player refuses to do it? We will see I guess.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

On a salary of 500m PA i would
Admit there are issues Scomo just said we Never had slavery in Australia. Thats a lie. Whites camr here shackled and used for free labor. Sounds like slavery? Stricter control of alcohol sales and a system which doesnt punish vendors yet funnels moneyback into substance detox then indexed revenue . Alcohol syndrome is not a black/white issue but effects the poor much more then the wealthy and needs to be at the forefront of a lot of attention as it ruins lives before they even have a chance. More dedicated outlets for sport in regional and remote communities as an outlet and identifying kids with potential.

Dedicated and what people call quotas for training/education for 5/10 years for a circuit breaker for kids who are talented bur just dont the chance.

Funding for police but strictly for education and training. A nurse goes to university for 3 years. Police are trained for 6 months for an often horrific job that is.mentally more taxing then people admit. But departments separate from them to oversee and be more transparent with complaints.

A mistake rather than a lie - he’s not intending to deceive or hoodwink anyone. The convicts weren’t slaves, they served their sentences as labour for the settlers and were then freed. The real slaves were the South Sea islanders that were rounded up and brought here to work by various means.

Sugar slaves

White Society used them as labourers when needed and discarded them when no longer needed: they were coerced and expendable labour Human Rights & Equal Opportunity Commission 1992 Australian South

www.qhatlas.com.au

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The highlight of these things is watching bogans getting offended. Plenty to see in this thread

 

[Turnover]

Hope they have practiced their kneeling. Expect de goey to take a piss during.

 

[purplearmy]

What a huge turn off.

It doesn't matter the intentions - kneeling divides people.

Keep politics out of sport.

 

[Les Malone]

The highlight of these things is watching bogans getting offended. Plenty to see in this thread

even more fun watching the wokeness in your beloved Victoriastan take hold

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

It may not hurt anyone. But what happens if a player refuses to do it? We will see I guess.

Most clubs are pretty much on the front foot when it comes to racism, having players from a variety of backgrounds and wanting to be inclusive. Jason Johannisen has spoken out about his experiences, he will be well supported by all his teammates.

 

[The Goon]

A mistake rather than a lie - he’s not intending to deceive or hoodwink anyone. The convicts weren’t slaves, they served their sentences as labour for the settlers and were then freed. The real slaves were the South Sea islanders that were rounded up and brought here to work by various means.

Sugar slaves

White Society used them as labourers when needed and discarded them when no longer needed: they were coerced and expendable labour Human Rights & Equal Opportunity Commission 1992 Australian South

www.qhatlas.com.au

I'd argue the indigenous people who were never actually given their wages (had it held in 'trust' for them i believe) and couldn't travel freely would also be on the borderline of the definition of slavery. Perhaps indentured servitude may be a term that better reflects the reality (as opposed to the specific definition).

 

[purplearmy]

This is where we are. A sporting organisation making political statements, pretending all players agree with their stance, and thus peer pressuring players to get in line. Does the AFL assume all viewers agree with their stance? If so, they are greatly mistaken. Very disappointing.