Cotchin vs Rich vs Scully vs Swallow

[Trav 20]

You don't draft players solely on the premise of what they will do in 5 years time, you also consider what their current output will be like the year after. Say for example (just using Watts and Rich don't mean any of it) that Rich plays at a very good/elite level after a year in the system and does this for 11 years, but Watts has 5 years to get to Rich's current level and then passes him but not by much and has 7 years of elite footy which would you prefer. It is a hard choice and one must consider where your team currently is and if they want a premiership now etc. I will just reiterate that this as just a factless/baseless example completely off topic.

Obviously we considered Watts the elite talent of the draft and at the same time a gun key forward isn't easy to find, just ask the Bulldogs and a host of other clubs. Melb pretty much had to build their forward line and midfield, so plenty of consideration would have been given to Rich. We rated Rich top 3. Ultimately we had to choose one. Our clubs were/are at different stages of development.

We're building from the ground up a team capable of winning a flag in 5-7 years. Watts' output in 5 years was always going to be more important than what he'd do in 1-3.

 

[Wells Train]

Obviously we considered Watts the elite talent of the draft and at the same time a gun key forward isn't easy to find, just ask the Bulldogs and a host of other clubs. Melb pretty much had to build their forward line and midfield, so plenty of consideration would have been given to Rich. We rated Rich top 3. Ultimately we had to choose one. Our clubs were/are at different stages of development.

We're building from the ground up a team capable of winning a flag in 5-7 years. Watts' output in 5 years was always going to be more important than what he'd do in 1-3.

I agree with everything you have said and i am enjoying the healthy debate. In regards to the thread title it doesn't say Cotchin V Rich etc... and then IF. I took it as at the moment hence the reason I said rich is the front runner at the moment. As for Melbournes needs you aren't dissimilar to North, a key forward to develop would be like gold. Hoping Tarrant can be this injury allowing of course. Your argument will be supported if we take Butcher with pick 5. Needs over the best available. Not trying to sell those who went before rich short. All will have ample opportunity to showcase their wares

 

[Bad Brain]

Of course you can come from nowhere and go bang ala rich

Rich didn't come from nowhere (unless you're having a go at Perth). After playing WAFL all year as a 16 yr old, he was one of the best on ground in the 2007 Grand Final. He took the next year off to focus on football. He slid because he didn't show any improvement over that year. With Rich it was very much a case of what you see is what you get and he was expected to have an impact striaght away. Nic Nat, Watts & Hill were picked on potential while the others selected before Rich were needs based.

Given Swallow is following a similar route by joining the Gold Coast immediately, giving him a year to prepare, I'd also expect him to have a similar impact at AFL level.

 

[yulong]

whilst David Swallow wins the GC17 F&B and VFL F&B at 17 years of age?.......gee the latter won't surprise me in the slightest!

Was just thinking exactly the same, have you tried his deviled eggs? They are to die for- apparently it's the paprika.

 

[adagio]

You know what I just realized.. Tom Scully and David Swallow..

Any Gulp's or Guzzle's coming through the junior ranks?

 

[Wells Train]

Rich didn't come from nowhere (unless you're having a go at Perth). After playing WAFL all year as a 16 yr old, he was one of the best on ground in the 2007 Grand Final. He took the next year off to focus on football. He slid because he didn't show any improvement over that year. With Rich it was very much a case of what you see is what you get and he was expected to have an impact striaght away. Nic Nat, Watts & Hill were picked on potential while the others selected before Rich were needs based.

Given Swallow is following a similar route by joining the Gold Coast immediately, giving him a year to prepare, I'd also expect him to have a similar impact at AFL level.

He was drafted pick 7, a lot of the draftees come in and take a few games to find their feet, similar to Watts, Kreuzer, there aren't too many top 10 guys who come in and have a seasoned players impact in their first dozen games. That is what I am saying. A lot of players who get the noms for the rising star come from a bit furthur away. Freo and Melbourne can vouch for this with the impact of Broughton and Grimes. That was the sort of analogy I was aiming for when making a comparison between impact and draft position.