Crowds in 2006 - AFL vs NRL

[pcpp]

Club matters alot, where it comes down to passion not showpieces where people will always turn up anyway. Try to be real and not selective. Fu make a good point this time. Maybe we'll use our showpiece game, Grand Final, which ended up no.1!!

Let's look at it further.

Included games

ANZAC Test
Brisbane Broncos home games (12)
Queensland Cup grand final
Rugby League State of Origin (2)

Brisbane Lions home games (12)
Queensland State League grand final

Take away the Test match and the 2 SOO, which drew 40,000 and 52,000 & 52,000 respectively, your 2005 average is 28,550, less than AFL (30,554). AFL outdraws RL in matches that give a true indication. And in RL TERRITORY!!! This year AFL outdraws RL 32,311 to 30,912 including last night's Test Match, although it's still early at this stage. And, to use your argument, the Gabba holds alot less than Suncorp Stadium. For that reason no chance of 40,000 crowds at the Gabba.

We can also start on AFL crowds in our own territory too if you want!!

With your selective disection of stats you must be related to "Littleduck".

Like Littleduck, you should quit while your behind.

I used to think you were a pretty level headed AFL fan with an objective view of both codes. Until you came out with that pathetic argument. Oh, and RL ended up 2,3,4 and 5.

Firstly, I never said the Broncos attracted more people than the Lions.

The TRUE indication of popularity is TOTAL crowds, which RL wins.

You can't go around taking games out of the RL total crowd to prove that AFL draws a higher crowd.

Answer this hypothetical situation for me:

Code A gets 10,000 average with 1 club for 12 games, and gets 300,000 with rep matches.
Code B gets 11,000 average with 1 club for 12 games, and has no rep matches.

You would somehow take away all of Code A's rep matches and somehow proclaim that Code B was the most popular code.

A sane person would say that Code B has the more popular club, but Code A is the most popular code overall.

You're dropping down to the depths of FuManchu, I seriously can't believe that you could write that sh*t.

 

[FuManchu]

would you rather 60% fill a stadium or 40% fill a stadium????


lang park = 60% full on average
mcg = 40% full on average

I'd rather measure on how many attend each game, can you beat that?

 

[pcpp]

I'd rather measure on how many attend each game, can you beat that?

A "pathetic" 45k attended a stadium which can hold 50k+ last night.

Meanwhile, an incredible 36k attended a stadium for the much anticipated rivalry round which can hold 90k+ last night.

I notice you are still avoiding my posts.

(Not saying RL is a higher crowd drawer, but you, FuManChu, is hypocrisy at its finest)

 

[Jimthegreat]

I used to think you were a pretty level headed AFL fan with an objective view of both codes. Until you came out with that pathetic argument. Oh, and RL ended up 2,3,4 and 5.

Firstly, I never said the Broncos attracted more people than the Lions.

The TRUE indication of popularity is TOTAL crowds, which RL wins.

You can't go around taking games out of the RL total crowd to prove that AFL draws a higher crowd.

Answer this hypothetical situation for me:

Code A gets 10,000 average with 1 club for 12 games, and gets 300,000 with rep matches.
Code B gets 11,000 average with 1 club for 12 games, and has no rep matches.

You would somehow take away all of Code A's rep matches and somehow proclaim that Code B was the most popular code.

A sane person would say that Code B has the more popular club, but Code A is the most popular code overall.

You're dropping down to the depths of FuManchu, I seriously can't believe that you could write that sh*t.

Stop trying to confuse everyone with bullsh1t. RL play SOO matches, showpiece games, of course they come 2,3,4,5. Even we watched them here. If you want to compare showpiece games we have one and we beat all of yours. But let's compare the games that matter here, club games fpor premiership points. I am a sane person and I gave you perfectly sane figures, not doctored one's to suit you're argument. Showpiece games don't figure because people will always turn up to them. Doesen't matter what sport you talk about. You that as well as I do. Club games indicate where the popularity is, that's you're grass roots passionate supporter. That's not hard to figure out. You the only one here trying to drum up bulsh1t for a losing cause.

 

[Jimthegreat]

would you rather 60% fill a stadium or 40% fill a stadium????


lang park = 60% full on average
mcg = 40% full on average

Want to talk about Telstra Dome!!! Or even AAMI Stadium, Subiaco!

 

[pcpp]

Stop trying to confuse everyone with bullsh1t. RL play SOO matches, showpiece games, of course they come 2,3,4,5. Even we watched them here. If you want to compare showpiece games we have one and we beat all of yours. But let's compare the games that matter here, club games fpor premiership points. I am a sane person and I gave you perfectly sane figures, not doctored one's to suit you're argument. Showpiece games don't figure because people will always turn up to them. Doesen't matter what sport you talk about. You that as well as I do. Club games indicate where the popularity is, that's you're grass roots passionate supporter. That's not hard to figure out. You the only one here trying to drum up bulsh1t for a losing cause.

Haha, you're getting even more pathetic.

Why don't AFL play SOO matches, showpiece games? Becasue the pinnacle of the game isn't at SOO anymore (if it ever was, that is).

How were my figures doctored? SOO and international matches count for pride in the most fiercely contested and closest match on Australian soil (SOO that is). Did you say that SOO and internationals don't matter?

If you think club matches indicate where the popularity is, I guess that Rugby union isn't much popular at all in England, France, South Africa, Au, NZ etc. because club matches don't nearly draw the attention of international matches.

I find it incrediblly ironic that you're claiming that i'm talking bullsh1t, at least you came up with a decent post below this one. But it hurts to argue against someone which I can never lose.

 

[Jimthegreat]

A "pathetic" 45k attended a stadium which can hold 50k+ last night.

Meanwhile, an incredible 36k attended a stadium for the much anticipated rivalry round which can hold 90k+ last night.

I notice you are still avoiding my posts.

(Not saying RL is a higher crowd drawer, but you, FuManChu, is hypocrisy at its finest)

I know you're just being sarcastic on this one so I see where you're coming from but we may have got to 45-50k without the driving rain coming down most of the night. It was really pouring, and cold. Probably would have got more at Telstra Dome funnily enough in a 50,000 seat stadium under the roof.

 

[littleduck]

I'd rather measure on how many attend each game, can you beat that?

you can measure your d1ck however you think gives you the biggest measurement...

 

[Jimthegreat]

Haha, you're getting even more pathetic.

Why don't AFL play SOO matches, showpiece games? Becasue the pinnacle of the game isn't at SOO anymore (if it ever was, that is).

How were my figures doctored? SOO and international matches count for pride in the most fiercely contested and closest match on Australian soil (SOO that is). Did you say that SOO and internationals don't matter?

If you think club matches indicate where the popularity is, I guess that Rugby union isn't much popular at all worldwide because club matches don't nearly draw the attention of international matches.

Absolutely pathetic. It hurts to argue against someone which I can never lose.

I'm getting more pathetic!! You have lost every ounce of credibility you have with this bullsh1t. HAHAHA! And you can't even work out how you've rationalised you own figures. It is so simple. Good god! Are you for real.

Go Away. You are the one that's pathetic! Sometimes you just have to shake you head at what people are thinking about. As I said, go away and come back when you're creditable!! Fair dinkum, you have no idea.

 

[pcpp]

I'm getting more pathetic, you have lost every ounce of credibility you have. HAHAHA! And you can't even work out how you've rationalised you own figures. It is so simple. Good god! Are you for real.

Go Away. You are pathetic! Sometimes you just have to shake you head at what people are thinking about. As I said, go away and come back when you're creditable!! Fair dinkum, you have no idea.

Yes, you are pathetic.

I have way more credibility than you'll ever have.

You just said that SOO and internationals don't matter.

SOO is not a showpiece game. It IS not played to show rugby league to the world. It is simply, the most important even on the rugby league calendar.

You are very, very deluded.

I have said that -

- The Lions draw more than the Broncos - TRUE
- More people attend RL games than AFL games in Brisbane - TRUE

Don't deny yourself the truth. You're gone to the point where you don't even use proof to support your pathetic arguments. I could argue with a 5 year old on this matter and i'll probably have a tougher time doing it.

 

[littleduck]

Want to talk about Telstra Dome!!! Or even AAMI Stadium, Subiaco!

dome averages 75-80% capacity doesnt it?
amy averages 75-80% capacity doesnt it?
subi averages 90-95% capacity doesnt it?
skilled averages 90-95% capacity doesnt it?
gabba averages 75-80% capacity doesnt it?
scg averages 70-75% capacity doesnt it?
homebush averages 40-50% capacity doesnt it?

 

[Hornet]

You just said that SOO (and internationals... to an extent) mean less than club matches. You are very, very deluded.

It seems that League Internationals mean less than State OO...

 

[littleduck]

It seems that League Internationals mean less than State OO...

clearly, representing your country is the highest personal achievement in football.... however, clearly state of origin is the most intense, passionate arena in football.

 

[pcpp]

It seems that League Internationals mean less than State OO...

Clearly the defining moment of this "Argument" is here:

jimthegreat: "But let's compare the games that matter here, club games fpor premiership points"

According to jimthegreat, who considers himself perfectly sane, State of Origin doesn't matter, so you can't include them in total crowd figures to judge popularity.

Delusioned. Pathetic. Obviously knows nothing of Brisbane.

 

[Hornet]

clearly, representing your country is the highest personal achievement in football.... however, clearly state of origin is the most intense, passionate arena in football.

I would assume that Internationals would be the pinnacle of a sport but going on figures (attendance + TV) presented in this thread it seems that the opposite is true with League.

 

[pcpp]

I would assume that Internationals would be the pinnacle of a sport but going on figures (attendance + TV) presented in this thread it seems that the opposite is true with League.

The "opposite" would assume that internationals mean for nothing at all.

Completely untrue.

 

[littleduck]

I would assume that Internationals would be the pinnacle of a sport but going on figures (attendance + TV) presented in this thread it seems that the opposite is true with League.

being selected to represent your country is clearly the highest honour in football, but being selected to represent your state means you will play in the highest quality and most intense football series the game has to offer.

do you understand????

 

[Hornet]

being selected to represent your country is clearly the highest honour in football, but being selected to represent your state means you will play in the highest quality and most intense football series the game has to offer.

do you understand????

You contradict yourself...

If "being selected to represent your country is clearly the highest honour in football", then why does the game itself rank lower in intensity and quality to a state game . . . moreso to the fans?

Are the International game inferior to SOO?

 

[pcpp]

You contradict yourself...

If "being selected to represent your country is clearly the highest honour in football", then why does the game itself rank lower in intensity and quality to a state game . . . moreso to the fans?

You still can't understand?

It is the highest honour, BUT the competition isn't as close. Being picked for Australia is much more exclusive than being picked for QLD/NSW.

Are the International game inferior to SOO?

IMO, the quality overall, yes.

 

[littleduck]

You contradict yourself...

i dont think so..

If "being selected to represent your country is clearly the highest honour in football", then why does the game itself rank lower in intensity and quality to a state game . . . moreso to the fans?

thats just the way it is...

Are the International game inferior to SOO?

in terms of intensity, probably yes.

 

[Hornet]

in terms of intensity, probably yes.

How about importance, especially to the fans.

Why does a State game sell out at Lang Park while "the highest honor in football" can't???

 

[gaelictiogar]

I'm getting more pathetic!! You have lost every ounce of credibility you have with this bullsh1t. HAHAHA! And you can't even work out how you've rationalised you own figures. It is so simple. Good god! Are you for real.

Go Away. You are the one that's pathetic! Sometimes you just have to shake you head at what people are thinking about. As I said, go away and come back when you're creditable!! Fair dinkum, you have no idea.

Jim they go on about SOO because they know, as we do, as everyone does, that the only time RL can pull crowds is when each team has entire states to draw support from. I mean if NSW with how many millions of people couldn't fill half a stadium that would be laughable. They will cling to SOO like a liferaft cos week on week, club by club, game by game we are more than twice aas big. I meanb the last series of IR, basically triendlies, drew SOO sized attendances. So what? We don't think that matters cos it doesn't. Week on week matters and can you believe them slagging 36,000 on a filthy night? They can't pull that on ANZAC day and can't even get to half of it on average.

It is a ridiculous non argument. AR is bigger than RL. Look at ansearch, Look at Roy morgan, look at attendances. It is a ridiculous argument with only one winner.

 

[finders]

Jim they go on about SOO because they know, as we do, as everyone does, that the only time RL can pull crowds is when each team has entire states to draw support from. I mean if NSW with how many millions of people couldn't fill half a stadium that would be laughable. They will cling to SOO like a liferaft cos week on week, club by club, game by game we are more than twice aas big. I meanb the last series of IR, basically triendlies, drew SOO sized attendances. So what? We don't think that matters cos it doesn't. Week on week matters and can you believe them slagging 36,000 on a filthy night? They can't pull that on ANZAC day and can't even get to half of it on average.

It is a ridiculous non argument. AR is bigger than RL. Look at ansearch, Look at Roy morgan, look at attendances. It is a ridiculous argument with only one winner.

Last night RL - Storm at Telstra Stadium Sydney a pathetic 8000 = 10% full what a joke! Dairy Farmers Stadium 16,000
AFL MCG 58,000 AAMI 42,000 Subiaco 42,000

 

[pcpp]

Week on week matters and can you believe them slagging 36,000 on a filthy night? They can't pull that on ANZAC day and can't even get to half of it on average

Moron.

I was being sarcastic, you idiot. Even jimthegreat figured that out.

I even noted it in my post.

If the next generation of AFL supporters end up like you, i'd be worried.

It is a ridiculous non argument. AR is bigger than RL. Look at ansearch, Look at Roy morgan, look at attendances. It is a ridiculous argument with only one winner.

Are you ******ed?

I think every poster here has acknowledged that AFL is bigger than RL in Australia in crowds. And yet you continue to make a point about it.

Are you trying to desperately trying to hang on that AFL is bigger than RL in NSW and QLD?

Jim they go on about SOO because they know, as we do, as everyone does, that the only time RL can pull crowds is when each team has entire states to draw support from. I mean if NSW with how many millions of people couldn't fill half a stadium that would be laughable. They will cling to SOO like a liferaft cos week on week, club by club, game by game we are more than twice aas big. I meanb the last series of IR, basically triendlies, drew SOO sized attendances. So what? We don't think that matters cos it doesn't.

jimthegreat: "SOO doesn't count because it doesn't matter" - LOL

Maybe our state of Origin series has gone into greater value that your Origin series, and now it doesn't matter.

If I was as ******ed as any of you AFL supporters, the exact same logic would be "AFL club matches don't matter", but i'm not as stupid as you filthy ******s.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Moron.

I was being sarcastic, you idiot. Even jimthegreat figured that out.

I even noted it in my post.

If the next generation of AFL supporters end up like you, i'd be worried.



Are you ******ed?

I think every poster here has acknowledged that AFL is bigger than RL in Australia in crowds. And yet you continue to make a point about it.

Are you trying to desperately trying to hang on that AFL is bigger than RL in NSW and QLD?



jimthegreat: "SOO doesn't count because it doesn't matter" - LOL

Maybe our state of Origin series has gone into greater value that your Origin series, and now it doesn't matter.

If I was as ******ed as any of you AFL supporters, the exact same logic would be "AFL club matches don't matter", but i'm not as stupid as you filthy ******s.

I'll compare crowds anytime you like between AFL & RL but you wouildn't have the guts becuase you know you'd lose. You would look stupid. I made my points, don't have to make them again. Other's will see the points I've made, not the one's you've twisted to think I made. Now all we have to do is sit here and let you carry on like an obsessed idiot for the next 20 posts.

This is really getting to you isn't it. Seems you real have problems with your ability to cope with adversity. "Listen" to yourself, you're obsessed. You are so unbelievably stupid. A 5 yo could work this out but you can't. You are making a complete idiot of yourself the more you go on. You need a psychologist for your for your mental problems and a tutor for your problems with intelligence. Sure you'll find plenty of them in the Yellow Pages.

Now f@ck off little boy!

Fishmonger, look what you've started with this thread!!!! Disagreed with you too but at least you're an intelligent poster, not like this twit.