D2 D2 Ammos 2008

[table tennis]

Are you sure you have never heard so much crap on this thread?? there have been some stupid things......

What can we talk / stir each other about now?

 

[patty O'furnicha]

No but they should have been doing the best thing for the club....
All in sundry should be aiming at playing senior footy. IF they are good enough, they should be straight in there.

I am sick of this argument, For the last time. IF ANYONE AT THIER RESPECTIVE CLUBS - EITHER COACH, PLAYER, BOARD MEMBER etc puts a Reserves/u19/Club18 side before the senior side, they should take a good hard look at themselves.

Senior footy is what it is all about.

Can we close this case, this is my final argument.

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TT. I agree with you regarding the senior football is the lifeblood of each club. and each kid should aim to play the highest standard possible. That's how i was brought up and that's obviously how you were, but not every kid who plays football lives and bleeds for the club they play for, believe it or not some just play footy for fun. but Maybe we need to ask 2 questions here, was it the kids who didn't want to play or was it the coach who wouldn't let them. Seeing as though others from the team stepped up to the u/19's it leads me to think that it was the players choice. is that right or wrong? One thing i do know about Fab is that he never pressures anyone and lets them make their own mind up. Classic example is one of your players who considered coming across this year, a little pressure and he would have jumped, however our coach told him to take time in his decision to make sure he knew what he was doing, result: he's still playing at your club. All because our coach allows the individual to make up their own mind. That's the sort of guy he is.

 

[table tennis]

I understand where your coming from, But junior footy filters out most people who dont want to play seriously. Most blokes who want to play for fun, are usually of sub standard and are irrelevant to previous arguments.

I know Reserve grade champions can be common, but they usually stay there as they are not good enough to dominate top grade.

I see a few of these blokes now that i live in the east in the EFL playing in division 4 when they are quite capable of playing division 1 or 2.

 

[tiger_tuff]

Obviously I am having a busy day @ work but looking @ how many players have been used by each side year to date re-enforces that if you don't have your best cattle on the park due to injuries / unavailabilities etc you are going to struggle.

Werribee - 37 players used
ESL - 31
Banyule - 35
GE - 36
Ivanhoe - 44
OW - 40
OP - 43
TP - 40
Bent - 43
SMS - 44

 

[tonymontana]

Obviously I am having a busy day @ work but looking @ how many players have been used by each side year to date re-enforces that if you don't have your best cattle on the park due to injuries / unavailabilities etc you are going to struggle.

Werribee - 37 players used
ESL - 31
Banyule - 35
GE - 36
Ivanhoe - 44
OW - 40
OP - 43
TP - 40
Bent - 43
SMS - 44

haha got a bit on tiger tuff.....on facebook as well all afternoon??

 

[table tennis]

That is some pretty good research.

No suprises that ESL is pretty settled.

I thought there would have been more at Werribee to be honest. With the combination of Injuries and Depth.

Can sides name the players who are in thier reserves and banging the door down to get a game in the seniors?

 

[Drifter]

So are Banyule pretenders....................

They cant defend themselves on this thread so what do people think????

If GE, Ivanhoe or OW pull their finger out - its could be a vital 4 points to get that 4th spot and perhaps another crack at the Bears...

 

[tiger_tuff]

haha got a bit on tiger tuff.....on facebook as well all afternoon??

forget facebook more www.thehun.com.au

 

[Drifter]

Obviously I am having a busy day @ work but looking @ how many players have been used by each side year to date re-enforces that if you don't have your best cattle on the park due to injuries / unavailabilities etc you are going to struggle.

Werribee - 37 players used
ESL - 31
Banyule - 35
GE - 36
Ivanhoe - 44
OW - 40
OP - 43
TP - 40
Bent - 43
SMS - 44

We have been pretty settled no doubt but Im actually stunned at clubs over 40 - that is showing some serious injuries or turnovers with your playing lists

 

[Gruffalo]

So are Banyule pretenders....................

They cant defend themselves on this thread so what do people think????

If GE, Ivanhoe or OW pull their finger out - its could be a vital 4 points to get that 4th spot and perhaps another crack at the Bears...

Drifter you're assuming ESL will roll Banyule in the return clash and therefore all but guarantee a top 2 finish. Could easily go the other way and GE, OW, IV etc. may be having another crack at ESL.
Also ESL still to face Werribee at Werribee no easy task.....

 

[Drifter]

Drifter you're assuming ESL will roll Banyule in the return clash and therefore all but guarantee a top 2 finish. Could easily go the other way and GE, OW, IV etc. may be having another crack at ESL.
Also ESL still to face Werribee at Werribee no easy task.....

Fair enough Gruffalo - just raising a question

No way do I dismiss Banyule in any game but if you are from the Bears you must be a bit concerned by the blow out loss at home last start....

It seems Banyule definitely match up better against ESL than Werribee looking at results. Would you agree with any of that?

Every game is tough - we have already played Ivanhoe, OW twice however and have GE this week so will be able to address that question by Sat 6pm...

Maybe Im just trying to fire up the 3 main challengers for 4th so Banyule can drop another and help us out!!!!

Cheesr

 

[Nostradamus]

There is word around that The Big Duke may return next year to help out the struggling St.Mary's/Salesians along with a few other stars from the past................

 

[knackers22]

There is word around that The Big Duke may return next year to help out the struggling St.Mary's/Salesians along with a few other stars from the past................

Wish they would this year nostradamus!

Dukes after a season on the pints will hold down the whole fwd line! Let's hope he does come back and play, miss the savage being around.

 

[game on]

Tribunal News

Banyule supporters allegedly using abusing and disgusting language towards the umpire during their senior match played on Saturday June 21 at Banyule.

Abuse by Banyule spectators found guilty. Club fined $150.

What the hell happened here? Had a look back through at it seemed that Banyule were leading by 8 goals all day. Why the hell would you abuse the ump when your up by that much?

Can anyone comment

 

[Kibe]

I know its early - but not a lot happening here the last few hours - so here are my tips.

ESL v GE - GE bounced back last week with a strong win, ESL did the job against OW. Going with ESL by 4 goals. 2nd v 4th - going with ESL by 4 goals.

Bentleigh v Therry - Bentleigh need this to avoid relegation. Unfortunatley that incentive won't be enough - Therry with bannister back by 3 goals.

SMS v Werribee - What else needs to be said - Werribee by 20+ goals.

Ivanhoe v Banyule - can Ivanhoe win this and give themselves a shot at that 4th spot? Can Banyule recover after last weeks loss? Ivanhoe were in it up to their ears last time against Banyule if memory serves me correctly. Is Pace back? Home ground advantage is enough for me here - Ivanhoe by a goal.

OW v OP - OP have had some really good results the last few weeks, OW need to bounce back this week if they are any risk of playing finals. Home ground advantage for mine - OW by 2 goals.

 

[Kibe]

Couple of questions to pose for some discussion:

Who has the biggest home ground advantage?
Who are the best opposition blokes?
Who are the worst opposition blokes?
Who has the most supporters?
Who has the best away facilities?

 

[Drifter]

Couple of questions to pose for some discussion:

Who has the biggest home ground advantage? Werribee & Banyule

Who are the best opposition blokes? None OW not too bad

Who are the worst opposition blokes? Anyone who beats ESL

Who has the most supporters? Glen Eira were vocal & the worst, Werribee

Who has the best away facilities? Banyule & Bentleigh

Best Clubrooms - Banyule & Old Westbourne & Bentleigh

 

[game on]

Who has the most supporters? Glen Eira were vocal & the worst, Werribee

Drifter, are you basing this on what you have seen this year? or have you always had issues with GE supporters. Remember that you did play us on rivalry round this year and we did have a past players luncheon on that day, I remember you posting at the time that you had an issue with one particular supporter that day.

Just bringing this up because generally I think we would proably have one of the better supporter bases in the comp! Or is that a biased opinion.

 

[game on]

Who has the biggest home ground advantage? - Werribee
Who are the best opposition blokes? - St Mary's Salesians
Who are the worst opposition blokes? - Banyule
Who has the most supporters? - Werribee
Who has the best away facilities? - Banyule

 

[Griff19]

Couple of questions to pose for some discussion:

Who has the biggest home ground advantage? Werribee & Banyule

Who are the best opposition blokes? None OW not too bad

Who are the worst opposition blokes? Anyone who beats ESL

Who has the most supporters? Glen Eira were vocal & the worst, Werribee

Who has the best away facilities? Banyule & Bentleigh

Best Clubrooms - Banyule & Old Westbourne & Bentleigh

Glen Eira Definatley the worst!!! Constant rubbish yelled out all game, including telling one of our guys to "get up you weak p*#k" when down badly hurt. Players seem to be pretty good though, just seemed to be some hangers on!!

 

[Drifter]

Drifter, are you basing this on what you have seen this year? or have you always had issues with GE supporters. Remember that you did play us on rivalry round this year and we did have a past players luncheon on that day, I remember you posting at the time that you had an issue with one particular supporter that day.

Just bringing this up because generally I think we would proably have one of the better supporter bases in the comp! Or is that a biased opinion.

Sorry Game On - players are cool!! It was a definitely a past player earlier this year who p*ssed me right off with his constant abuse from the GE hill

Just called us front runners amongst other things for atleast an hour - should we let you jump us and then try and reel you in???

I wont tarnish the whole club just yet - I'll see if he shows up again this week!!!!!

 

[Gruffalo]

Fair enough Gruffalo - just raising a question

No way do I dismiss Banyule in any game but if you are from the Bears you must be a bit concerned by the blow out loss at home last start....

It seems Banyule definitely match up better against ESL than Werribee looking at results. Would you agree with any of that?

Every game is tough - we have already played Ivanhoe, OW twice however and have GE this week so will be able to address that question by Sat 6pm...

Maybe Im just trying to fire up the 3 main challengers for 4th so Banyule can drop another and help us out!!!!

Cheesr

Not directly linked Drifter, mainly follow Heidelberg across the swamp, although have some associates at the Bears and therefore take an interest in their form.
Didn't see the game on the weekend but am reliably informed Werribee are a class outfit and the benchmark for D2.
Whilst all teams have injuries, I believe Banyule had some critical outs both Drapac and Rothe missed and they haven't played with a genuine ruckman for 5 weeks.

 

[Drifter]

Not directly linked Drifter, mainly follow Heidelberg across the swamp, although have some associates at the Bears and therefore take an interest in their form.
Didn't see the game on the weekend but am reliably informed Werribee are a class outfit and the benchmark for D2.
Whilst all teams have injuries, I believe Banyule had some critical outs both Drapac and Rothe missed and they haven't played with a genuine ruckman for 5 weeks.

True on all counts Gruffalo - you are the closest thing to our Bears rep on this thread as well

I saw that Shepherd-Mueller and Jurgens played on Saturday - are they not the No 1 ruck options at Banyule???

 

[table tennis]

Drapac and Rothe are big outs sure, but there are about 10+ missing from Werribee. Im sure they more than cancel each other out.

 

[Kibe]

Drapac and Rothe are big outs sure, but there are about 10+ missing from Werribee. Im sure they more than cancel each other out.

Not sure anyone was casting any dispersions on Werribee. Not even sure the last couple of posts were about Werribee! I almost thought we were going to have a Werribee free page!