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List Mgmt. Dan Houston requests trade to Victoria - will stay if deal can't be done
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muckyjuice
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We could probably do that with north's future first. Tigers already stated that if they end up with the kind of draft hand that they will have they would prefer to take extra pucks into next year as they don't want 10 awesome kids who all come out of contract in the same year. I think that thinking had some bearing on signing balta for 7 years
muckyjuice
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Didn't we use thus years first rounder last year to trade with the dockers for 3 2nds which is why freo have our pick and we drafted 3 small forwards who are all "still developing"
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Very kind of Carlton actively working to obtain pick 3 and give to us for Houston
PortAdelFC1997
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Can GC forget using pick 6 for the Rioli deal since Richmond are making it hard for themselves and just use pick 6 as the central piece in the 3 way trade between the pies, suns and port?
GC following hawks example with their attempted dealing WC.
GC following hawks example with their attempted dealing WC.
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In a heartbeat
Here at port , we do not play pokies with players . He is going to or will be not our style . If you want Dan then cough up 2 first rounders and 2nd round pick . Player like Richard can only be sweetner to the deal but not part of deal . Otherwise keeps on dreaming ....
it’s still not a very good deal. I think we would feel like we lost this trade
How about Pick 13, Bobby Hill and Richard’s for Houston?
I am going to throw this here first to gauge the amount of criticism I may get if I post this on X but:
Who loses in this deal?
In my view:
Richmond get fair compensation, 2 first rounders for Rioli is slightly overs but close enough
Pies can view it as getting 39 for Richards which is overs but they pay Noble, 36 and F1 for Houston which is close
Suns they can see it as F1 for Luko (slightly overs imo), Rioli for 6, Noble + 36 for 13 (which values Noble at pick 27 which maybe overs as well but offsets with Luko)
Port, I think we could actually even use pick 6 on a Tauru or use it to split say for Carlton's 12 and 14, or Essendon giving us 9 and a future first.
The biggest question is, are Richmond willing to give up their dream of pick 6 and make it 13 + F1
Who loses in this deal?
In my view:
Richmond get fair compensation, 2 first rounders for Rioli is slightly overs but close enough
Pies can view it as getting 39 for Richards which is overs but they pay Noble, 36 and F1 for Houston which is close
Suns they can see it as F1 for Luko (slightly overs imo), Rioli for 6, Noble + 36 for 13 (which values Noble at pick 27 which maybe overs as well but offsets with Luko)
Port, I think we could actually even use pick 6 on a Tauru or use it to split say for Carlton's 12 and 14, or Essendon giving us 9 and a future first.
The biggest question is, are Richmond willing to give up their dream of pick 6 and make it 13 + F1
My thoughts exactly. What bothers me is we overpay for a player (it was a need so can sort of accept this) but then feel obligated to always play him even if it's detrimental to the team. Any club worth their salt picks players on their week to week performance. Don't care how much you cost, how many Brownlows or B&Fs you've won or how nice a guy you are. Perform or you're playing reserves.
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I feel like the Suns are losing out here to make the deal work, but they may value that F1.
Depends on how badly they want Noble, but I don't see them as losing by much tomorrow. I genuinely think it's the closest deal I've seen where everybody gets what they want
Have I got it right in that this equates to:
Houston for pick 6
F1R for Lukosius
Pick 39 for Richards and 51
Sorry, but to me we lose a bit on every deal other than the Richards one.
We pay max for Lukosius
We get only a single good pick for Houston
We lose our current R2 pick
To make this work for us there needs to be a second round pick coming back our way. Ideally 23. At worst 29.
We’d also need to get a R2 pick for Soldo to make the overall trade period a pass.
manureid
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Richards 13 and 52 for Houston is gross. Basically pick 15ish and two late rounders. Shut the doors forever if we do that.
Jello_B
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There is every chance that if we accept 13 and 23, and then give away our F1 for Luko we end up paying more for Luko then we get for Houston.
We are as likely to finish 10th as we are in the top 4.
Richards is worth nothing.
We are as likely to finish 10th as we are in the top 4.
Richards is worth nothing.
Reasonable? Did you misread it?
That trade has us offering our future 1st straight up for luko, and only getting 13 and Richard’s for Houston.
We might as well call ourselves the port Adelaide cucks if we take that shit.
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I'd take that, but not entirely sure why our 39 is in there.
simba_
sucking a lemon
we are going to get absolutely wrecked
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If we don't get what were after, there's a lot of value in us just holding him and revisiting everything in 12 months. We'd be fine with it, I'm sure based on what Dans said he'd be accepting of it.
This garbage of "were jaded and wanting too much for Houston because we missed out on free agents" is ridiculous.
Did we not say two firsts even before Cumming and Perryman slipped through?
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This garbage of "were jaded and wanting too much for Houston because we missed out on free agents" is ridiculous.
Did we not say two firsts even before Cumming and Perryman slipped through?
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It actually seems like we’re standing out ground
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Agreed re Esava, and assuming the club keeps Lord he is the player who should be developed as the gorilla type forward to compliment the lighter framed talls.
He would need to improve his ruckwork, but as he should only be doing it occasionally in the forward 50 it shouldn't be a huge issue, and if he can improve and stay fit for the majority of games Rat could spend a fair bit of the season playing for the Maggies where his inability to make the correct decision won't be as crucial.
The offer we want is what nearly everyone considers unders though.
It’s a pseudo ‘standing out ground until we get what we want’ to sell a pretty poor offer as a win.
We went from ‘absolutely 2 first rounders minimum’ to trying to get ‘13 + 23’. I excluded Richards as he has 0 trade value.
Both of those picks move out with academy players to something like 15 + 27.
Long way back from 2 first rounders or even a certain future 1st or potential split of pick 2 coming from North.
Standing our ground would be saying North if you want to get back to Victoria. Win win win for all 3 parties. Or stay if it’s ’I want to get back to Victoria….but only to a massive club, contending for a premiership and offering pittance to my current club’.
