Confirmed Dan Houston - Joins Collingwood as part of 3-way trade with Port and GC

[Jeremias]

For anyone who missed the prior warning:

Take the Carlton v Collingwood shit fight elsewhere.

Infractions will be handed out.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

In Houston’s case yes we do which is what you should be worried about if you want him

A BS speculative pick in the teens (after academy bids) isn’t currency for a dual AA in his prime

How do the academy picks change the players available to you at 11/12?

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

which is why won't give it a second thought. Some of the deals floated here remind me of Hitler in the bunker in April 1945, sticking pins in the map to take Stalingrad

Godwin's law strikes...

 

[Merlin007]

Godwin's law strikes...

pretty much

 

[Merlin007]

Most teams want their cake and to eat it too.

If North want Houston and to keep pick 2, they would need to get pretty creative.

there won't be any sponge cake, passionfruit icing or otherwise, in which North go from pick 2 to pick 20 to get Houston.

 

[perplexed]

That is a really (excuse the expression) Silly comparison
1 player is contracted and the other is not !!!
of course its Baker selecting the club he plays for and its upto Richmond to decide if they are happy or not and will use the tools on hand to deal with it.

If you had mentioned Rioli or Baker then thats kills your argument as Richmond does not have to trade a contracted player and keep him then the player can look at alternatives or stay at his club exact like Papley did

you need a shovel as your digging yourself deeper and deeper mate just give it up
you asked if it had been done before and i gave you the perfect example where it did. Dont die on this hill your just making yourself look silly

LOL. The argument started with a poster saying Port should shop Houston for the best deal then give him the option of going to that club or staying. I pointed out that it never happens this way. You have then proceeded to provide examples of it not happening that way, then telling me I am wrong.

 

[jackag24]

there won't be any sponge cake, passionfruit icing or otherwise, in which North go from pick 2 to pick 20 to get Houston.

I'll agree the deal needs refinement, it's just a rough idea of what every team wants to get out of the trade period.

Maybe get another team involved where North end up with Houston and a top 10 pick for pick 2

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

there won't be any sponge cake, passionfruit icing or otherwise, in which North go from pick 2 to pick 20 to get Houston.

How about this

Port give: Houston, future second
Port get: pick 6, pick 20, pick 26

North give: pick 2 and 22
North get: Houston, pick 12

Gold Coast give: pick 6, 12, 20, 26
Gold Coast get: pick 2, pick 22, future second

 

[jackag24]

How about this

Port give: Houston, future second
Port get: pick 6, pick 20, pick 26

North give: pick 2 and 22
North get: Houston, pick 12

Gold Coast give: pick 6, 12, 20, 26
Gold Coast get: pick 2, pick 22, future second

You left Lukosius on the gold coast... And GC need pick 6 for Rioli

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

You left Lukosius on the gold coast... And GC need pick 6 for Rioli

I wouldn’t have a deal with Houston and Lukosius. Separate deals is the best way for port to get most value out of both the trades Imo.

Forgot about Rioli.

 

[jackag24]

I wouldn’t have a deal with Houston and Lukosius. Separate deals is the best way for port to get most value out of both the trades Imo.

Forgot about Rioli.

I cant see a universe where Port do a 3 way deal involving Houston and GC, and Lukosius isn't involved..

You would just factor him into the deal and give the according picks.. you don't get any upper hand by making it a separate deal

edit: In the case of your deal.. pick 20

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Richmond may be the third club to get involved with a North and port trade, they gunna have heaps of picks

 

[kool kangas]

I think realistically, Port would be happy with a top 8-14 pick, and a pick that will satisfy GC for Lukosius (early 2nd rounder)

A 3 way swap with North and GC is probably best avenue

Team	Get	Give
GC	pick 2 (NM), future 2nd (NM)	Lukosius, 12, 20, 26
Port	Lukosius, 12	Houston
NM	Houston, 20, 26	Pick 2, future 2nd

or
North offer Pick#2 to Freo for their 1st two round picks maybe 9,10
Then North offer Pick#10 + their F2nd to Port for Houston and their F2nd
Port offer Pick#10 + Norths F2nd to GC for Lukosius and their F2nd

North end up with #9 + Houston + Ports F2nd
Port end up with Lukosius + GC F2nd
Gc end up with #10 and Norths F2
Freo get pick #2

 

[King_Tredrea]

If Houston ends up in the "famous" blue and white stripes surely pick 2 goes to Alberton

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

or
North offer Pick#2 to Freo for their 1st two round picks maybe 9,10
Then North offer Pick#10 + their F2nd to Port for Houston and their F2nd
Port offer Pick#10 + Norths F2nd to GC for Lukosius and their F2nd

North end up with #9 + Houston + Ports F2nd
Port end up with Lukosius + GC F2nd
Gc end up with #10 and Norths F2
Freo get pick #2

So port give Houston and get Luko and a second round draft pick? Right…

 

[rainwizard39]

If Houston ends up in the "famous" blue and white stripes surely pick 2 goes to Alberton

They’d be better off then wasting it on another mid.

So port give Houston and get Luko and a second round draft pick? Right…

Even worse it’s an only 2nd round upgrade.

 

[drcollossimo]

How do the academy picks change the players available to you at 11/12?

Irrelevant 11/12 isn’t going to be enough if it’s the centre piece of your deal, we are under no obligation to trade him if the terms don’t get us the value the club wants

That’s my point irrespective of how inconvenient that is for blues fans who want him for a pack of chips

Ask yourself if we wanted one of your AA blokes would pick 12 and some coins from under couch get it done?

 

[drcollossimo]

there won't be any sponge cake, passionfruit icing or otherwise, in which North go from pick 2 to pick 20 to get Houston.

I actually agree with this if we get 2 then that’s it

 

[DocSholl]

If Houston ends up in the "famous" blue and white stripes surely pick 2 goes to Alberton

I don't think there's any realistic scenario where Port ends up with this year's pick 2 in a Houston trade

 

[Duckimus Prime]

no it didn't. The finals showed that Burgoyne played far better than Houston would've anyway. Back flankers grow on trees, that's what the finals showed.

If Dan Houston is playing in the qualifying final or the preliminary final, almost all the turn overs that Port gave up kicking into the corridor out of our backline change into marks for Port players in dangerous attacking positions.

 

[Merlin007]

I don't think there's any realistic scenario where Port ends up with this year's pick 2 in a Houston trade

You're so diplomatic

 

[Merlin007]

I actually agree with this if we get 2 then that’s it

yep, we'll throw in Sheezel too, just to get it over the line

 

[DocSholl]

You're so diplomatic

I'm.just trying to get the thread to descend into the usual "fine, we'll keep him then" shenanigans

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

yep, we'll throw in Sheezel too, just to get it over the line

We don’t need him thanks

 

[Merlin007]

I'm.just trying to get the thread to descend into the usual "fine, we'll keep him then" shenanigans

Indeed, we'll keep him right up until the moment we need to find a first rounder for Lukosious

 

[perplexed]

I don't think there's any realistic scenario where Port ends up with this year's pick 2 in a Houston trade

Not if they want Luko. Otherwise, they may get close. I'd value Houston at around pick 7 or 8. The best they can offer is Houston, F1 + 36 for Pick 2. It's close, but I'd rather pass. We really don't want to be trading out of this draft.