Darren Glass has conceded the 3rd most goals of any player in the competition...

[Lunchlady Doris]

just to quote u again, when has the whole GEELONG DEFENCE EVER BEEN RATED TO LAST YEAR!! bar scarlett and milburn thet were a bunch of no-namers.

i agree he wasnt that good of a defender for a period in his youth, but his rise came before 2005 when the eagles started winning.

open ur eyes mate

Scarlett was AA fullback in 2003 when we were very ordinary, as well as 04 and 07 when we were alright. Glass was AA when West Coast were a dominant side, and even then has conceded many more goals than some of his contemporaries.

If you have indeed been following FB's you'd know that the stat you are using to rate FB's does not represent their abilities. "Even Daniel Merrett conceded less goals last year." confirms this.

So either you know very little about FB's or you are trolling. I'll leave that up to the readers to decide.

How do we rate FBs then? By the rebound attacking play they set up? Because Glass is not really the best in the league at that aspect either...

 

[MF]

Here is the leader for idiotic post of the year...

Yep, he makes some pretty stupid comments but that is right up there.

 

[Big Nasty]

I'd just like to take this moment to point out that Matthew Scarlett is one of the reigning All-Australian back pockets, he is truly one of the leagues finest back pockets.

He was also the 2003-2004 AA Full back. Scarlett still concedes less goals than Glass, and sets up our attack from defence.

 

[viper05]

West Coast players never play badly, they are always injured you only have to listen to 6pr, its alway hes out off form ,NO BARRA HES CARRYING AN INJURY ,DONT PLAY THEM THEN.

 

[krisholio14]

It's pretty ____ing obvious to me that Glass is injured. He was running around like a crab out there on the weekend.

You'd think the Eagles would know better than to run their skippers into the ground by now.

 

[wotdoiput]

It's pretty ____ing obvious to me that Glass is injured. He was running around like a crab out there on the weekend.

You'd think the Eagles would know better than to run their skippers into the ground by now.

Your right there diablo. Surely someone who is 100% good to go is better than a guy that cant get out of a trot??

Not giving the injury time to heal either.

Id like to see Glass have a couple of weeks off to shrug off the injury and then be back and firing.

 

[markr]

Goals against is a useless stat in my opinion, particularly with how much defenders help each other out against the better players. All you can do is watch the games and see how they do in the 1 on 1 contests. No defender will stop a fast leading forward who gets a lace out pass these days.

 

[krisholio14]

Your right there diablo. Surely someone who is 100% good to go is better than a guy that cant get out of a trot??

Not giving the injury time to heal either.

Id like to see Glass have a couple of weeks off to shrug off the injury and then be back and firing.

There was one passage during the game where Pavlich out bodied him in a marking contest about 50 meters out, then just spun around and ran right off him into an open goal. The best Glass could muster in response could best be described as a jog/limp, and was left 20 meters in Pavs wake.

It was actually a little sad to watch, because overrated or not, he's still a much much better player than that.

 

[Obeanie1]

It's hardy a surprise to me.

He's conceded over 40 goals the last two years, which has placed him about 8th or 9th in the so called "Reverse Coleman" according to the AFL Prospectus.

Nowhere near the numbers put up by the likes of Scarlett and Rutten.

He isn't that good. Even Daniel Merrett conceded less goals last year.[/quote]

Yeh, he is totally crap, those blokes on the All Australian selection panel have got it wrong two years in a row now and the Eagles selection board who made him captain really should have traded our # 3 pick to Brisbane for Merret and made him captain.

Barry Hall seems to rate him, so do many other big name key forwards. Obviously you know better or live under a bridge.

Mate this would be one of the most di!ckhead type comments I have read for a long, long time. You won a flag so why not try being humble instead of a first rate looser.

 

[W.C. Fry]

Wouldn't really worry too much about trolls who magically signup to bigfooty a couple of months after there team wins a premiership - isn't that right "Last Minute Signup Hero".

 

[krisholio14]

Wouldn't really worry too much about trolls who magically signup to bigfooty a couple of months after there team wins a premiership - isn't that right "Last Minute Signup Hero".

He's not a troll just because he expressed a view no Eagles supporter would ever agree with.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

He's not a troll just because he expressed a view no Eagles supporter would ever agree with.

Fine line. wehen someone starts describing Glass as flat out over rated and only good because of the midfield....not sure even reasonable Geelong supporters would share that view. It's clear Geelong and West Coast (and even Adelaide) supporters are not likely to agree on the league's number one full back any time soon. This year to date, it certainly isn't Glass. But I'm not going to try and discredit Scarlett to try and pump up Glass. While theory is one thing regarding strength of midfield and other external factors to do with the value and performance of a full back, if Last Line Hero had actually ever watched an Eagles game, he would have seen a full back who is exceptional in one on one contests. He would have also seen a team who had a bunch of exceptional midfielders who tended to run forward of the play and match up loose defenders in our forward line, often leaving Glass one on one as the only player forward of centre for the opposition.

So for all the theories in the world that the stats supposedly suit, Glass is a quality full back, who for whatever reason has not had a great start to the year, and if the 2008 AA side was picked tomorrow, he would quite rightly not be in it.

 

[Embers]

He would be about the most unfit player in the comp atm. 2 injuries he has atm. He could have a month off to get himself right but hes a quality player so you gotta see first if he can adjust to it and play some decent footy. Unfortunately so far that hasnt been the case

At Geelong you have enough defenders better then Scarlett to cover his loss when he picks up a knock. We dont atm as they are all too young to hold down FB. Glass is playing through the pain. Something a real captain always doeas

 

[Big Nasty]

He would be about the most unfit player in the comp atm. 2 injuries he has atm. He could have a month off to get himself right but hes a quality player so you gotta see first if he can adjust to it and play some decent footy. Unfortunately so far that hasnt been the case

At Geelong you have enough defenders better then Scarlett to cover his loss when he picks up a knock. We dont atm as they are all too young to hold down FB. Glass is playing through the pain. Something a real captain always doeas

Theres no better defender in the league than Scarlo, let alone a better defender at Geelong. But yes we have a brilliant defence. However Glass only stands out because he plays in a poor backline.

 

[Embers]

Theres no better defender in the league than Scarlo, let alone a better defender at Geelong. But yes we have a brilliant defence. However Glass only stands out because he plays in a poor backline.

If Wirrpanda, Brett Jones, Adam Hunter, Shannon Hurn and Adam Selwood are poor id hate to know what you think of the Carlton backline. When in form we have a top 5 defense in the league for sure.

 

[Embers]

Theres no better defender in the league than Scarlo, let alone a better defender at Geelong. But yes we have a brilliant defence. However Glass only stands out because he plays in a poor backline.

Rutten and Bock >>>> Scarlett and Harley

 

[Big Nasty]

Rutten and Bock >>>> Scarlett and Harley

Actually it would be Scarlett & Egan. And that is a childish argument because you know I'm right.

 

[W.C. Fry]

He's not a troll just because he expressed a view no Eagles supporter would ever agree with.

No its because he has baited eagles supporters throughout this thread - and done a fairly good job of it. And basically he has expressed a view that no football follower would ever agree with - not just eagle supporters. Where is everyone else bagging him? Where is the media bagging him?

Bad form, injury, pressures of new captaincy after what happened to our last 2 captains... not making excuses but you have to factor these things in. To call him an overrated hack after 3 games is a bit much.

 

[Embers]

Actually it would be Scarlett & Egan. And that is a childish argument because you know I'm right.

Your right about what. That we have a poor backline. or that Scarletts the best defender in the league? He sure as shit aint better then Rutten. Heck he aint better then Bock either based on this season so far

 

[Embers]

No its because he has baited eagles supporters throughout this thread - and done a fairly good job of it. And basically he has expressed a view that no football follower would ever agree with - not just eagle supporters. Where is everyone else bagging him? Where is the media bagging him?

Bad form, injury, pressures of new captaincy after what happened to our last 2 captains... not making excuses but you have to factor these things in. To call him an overrated hack after 3 games is a bit much.

Its 2 injuries which makes it even sadder. Left ankle AND left knee are buggered. To put it in perspective. Dean Cox is fitter then Darren Glass atm. However Cox can get 100% if he has a week off. Glass would need 1-2 months off. Something most teams couldnt afford to do.

 

[loki04]

It's hardy a surprise to me.

He's conceded over 40 goals the last two years, which has placed him about 8th or 9th in the so called "Reverse Coleman" according to the AFL Prospectus.

Nowhere near the numbers put up by the likes of Scarlett and Rutten.

He isn't that good. Even Daniel Merrett conceded less goals last year.

Scarlett also used to look 2nd rate when Geelongs midfield struggled , anyone remember his form pre 07. Geelongs defense used to leak like a siv just ask Tarrant who he used to love playing on.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Scarlett also used to look 2nd rate when Geelongs midfield struggled , anyone remember his form pre 07. Geelongs defense used to leak like a siv just ask Tarrant who he used to love playing on.

And that would be about the only Geelong games you watched, right?

 

[larrikin]

Serious question - does Scarlett always take the opposition best forward - ie does he play on the Jonathon Brown, Barry Halls etc, or does he play at FB.

Rutten, for example, doesn't seem to play on Franklin.

 

[Scotland]

Just out of interest, did any of the knockers happen to watch the West Coast vs Brisbane game?

Or is it simply a case of 'hey Brown kicked 6, Glass must have been awful'?

Brown kicked 7 in Rd 22 & Pavlich 4 in Rd 17 vs Geelong last year. Who played on them? Egan? Scarlett? Both 2007 AA defenders. Are they overrated hacks? I don't think so, but it's the same logic many are using to rate Glass.

I doubt I've ever seen a backman play as well as Glass did in Rd 1 and have 6 kicked on him. If we had a mug backman (think anyone in Carlton's defence) we probably would have lost the game given the quality of delivery and form of Brown.

 

[Monkey King]

You won a flag so why not try being humble instead of a first rate looser.

LMFAO... this is coming from a WCE supporter. Lap it up!