Analysis Death-Riding Melbourne 2018 (now with poll)

[Thetrader15]

Just watch us accept it if thats what it is. Danger was alot younger and better than Sloane was.

Remember the guy who accepted the Danger deal also gave up 12 for Charlie Cameron...to the guy who will do the Sloane deal

 

[douglyzia]

Are there still any stupid rules allowing clubs to get the top picks before the regular sequence from bottom to top-finishing clubs?

Does GWS still get the top 100 picks before the wooden spooner gets to pick?

 

[fabs33]

Love how Melbourne still trotting out the line of “positive signs”. Not sure how positive a last quarter fade out for 48 point defeat is....

That's the sort of line a rebuilding team can get away with, not a team aiming to play finals.

 

[conVINCEd]

Should be band 2 compo (end of 1st).

Lynch isn’t a free agent.

And neither is Wines despite afl.com.au suggesting otherwise.

 

[Shaz2012]

Are there still any stupid rules allowing clubs to get the top picks before the regular sequence from bottom to top-finishing clubs?

Does GWS still get the top 100 picks before the wooden spooner gets to pick?

Yes, its called priority pick and there is a massive chance that Carlton will get one this year. Especially since we have their 2nd, which will be pick 19. Carlton have no shame and I would be surprised if they haven't been asking for priority picks these last few years already. If they get priority picks(s) they could well be before their number 1 pick, so essentially they will get the first 2 picks of the draft. If the VFL insists on doing that, then they may have to pretend to be fair and also give Brisbane one, who have been similarly down the bottom of the ladder for an extended period. So it may be that an extra 2 picks area added to the front of the draft.

By Murphy's law, we could end up getting a fantastic pick from Melbourne and still not get any of the SA guns that we are desperate for.

 

[SaltPeter]

Yes, its called priority pick and there is a massive chance that Carlton will get one this year. Especially since we have their 2nd, which will be pick 19. Carlton have no shame and I would be surprised if they haven't been asking for priority picks these last few years already. If they get priority picks(s) they could well be before their number 1 pick, so essentially they will get the first 2 picks of the draft. If the VFL insists on doing that, then they may have to pretend to be fair and also give Brisbane one, who have been similarly down the bottom of the ladder for an extended period. So it may be that an extra 2 picks area added to the front of the draft.

By Murphy's law, we could end up getting a fantastic pick from Melbourne and still not get any of the SA guns that we are desperate for.

Doubt it. The last time Brisbane lobbied the AFL for priority pick the answer was no.

 

[Cleric]

Remember the guy who accepted the Danger deal also gave up 12 for Charlie Cameron...to the guy who will do the Sloane deal

To be fair, Charlie was worth pick 12 every day of the week. Could be leading brisbanes best and fairest at the moment.

 

[Shaz2012]

Doubt it. The last time Brisbane lobbied the AFL for priority pick the answer was no.

Brisbane got one in 2016, but it was end of first round. My fear is that this year it will be beginning of first round for potentially Brisbane and Carlton.

Edit: Even end of first round would be a disaster for us, having Carlton's 2nd.

 

[Shaz2012]

To be fair, Charlie was worth pick 12 every day of the week. Could be leading brisbanes best and fairest at the moment.

I dont think so. They could have got Fogarty. Would be playing 22 games for them this year. They will still finish 17th.

 

[SaltPeter]

Brisbane got one in 2016, but it was end of first round. My fear is that this year it will be beginning of first round for potentially Brisbane and Carlton.

Edit: Even end of first round would be a disaster for us, having Carlton's 2nd.

I cannot find a record of that happening in either 2015 or 2016

 

[Shaz2012]

I cannot find a record of that happening in either 2015 or 2016

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-10-06/priority-pick-awarded

 

[headache1]

So far, so good.

 

[GrommoT]

Where the hell is that gif of the loss ticking over??

Sorry, been away since Sat - driving thru The Fog country, in fact - to Nelson, Vic.

What a glorious weekend! We win, Bloos and Dees getting done, and watching Port getting done ... glorious!

Will do a double update next weekend.

ams4crows

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sorry, been away since Sat - driving thru The Fog country, in fact - to Nelson, Vic.

What a glorious weekend! We win, Bloos and Dees getting done, and watching Port getting done ... glorious!

Will do a double update next weekend.

ams4crows

Can you add what our pick number from Melbourne is at it currently stands as our thanks to Jake.

 

[GrommoT]

Can you add what our pick number from Melbourne is at it currently stands as our thanks to Jake.

Hmm... nice idea, might need to be updated at the end of the final game in the round.

 

[Elite Crow]

Surely Melbourne will beat Essendon but then again it’s at Ethiad which I don’t think they have a good record there and Essendon obviously do.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Surely Melbourne will beat Essendon but then again it’s at Ethiad which I don’t think they have a good record there and Essendon obviously do.

I would be favouring the Dons at Etihad... but both teams are flakey, so no confidence.

 

[douglyzia]

Cameron has been electric for Brisbane. He'd probably be the difference between them finishing 17th and 17th.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

To be fair, Charlie was worth pick 12 every day of the week. Could be leading brisbanes best and fairest at the moment.

I feel like the Charlie trade is textbook win win

 

[Shaz2012]

I feel like the Charlie trade is textbook win win

 

[dylan123]

My gut feel without knowing what they are thinking is we will keep Lynch & lose Sloane... which would mean we need to target a readymade midfielder like Dalhaus.

Dahlhaus has looked pretty cooked at the Bulldogs in the past couple of years imo. They've pushed him out of the midfield (where he was his best) for whatever reason and pushed him forward where he doesn't really have the ability to kick it 40min, nor the composure to kick a set shot no matter where he marks it.

Given the Dogs midfield is pretty weak, I don't think it's a great sign that they've pushed him out of the midfield either.

 

[GreyCrow]

Dahlhaus has looked pretty cooked at the Bulldogs in the past couple of years imo. They've pushed him out of the midfield (where he was his best) for whatever reason and pushed him forward where he doesn't really have the ability to kick it 40min, nor the composure to kick a set shot no matter where he marks it.

Given the Dogs midfield is pretty weak, I don't think it's a great sign that they've pushed him out of the midfield either.

He shouldnt cost much then

27 August next year. Should get to 150 games by the end of the year. His production is down a little over the last 2 years , but only 28 games, so injured?

 

[headache1]

I feel like the Charlie trade is textbook win win

We get Fogarty, they get a young player with bags of potential who really wants to be in Brisbane.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Sorry, been away since Sat - driving thru The Fog country, in fact - to Nelson, Vic.

What a glorious weekend! We win, Bloos and Dees getting done, and watching Port getting done ... glorious!

Will do a double update next weekend.

ams4crows

Love it.

 

[dylan123]

He shouldnt cost much then

27 August next year. Should get to 150 games by the end of the year. His production is down a little over the last 2 years , but only 28 games, so injured?

He played 22 games last season and 17 the season prior.

Probably being a touch harsh given his age but do watch him closely as my brother follows the Dogs and it feels like he's really fallen off last season and hasn't looked any better this year.