D1 Division 1 2011

[Titeleash]

how's Adams shoulder? Only bowled 20 overs this year due to the reco.......

 

[Weiterbot23]

Your alive kruze!

Fun police will now be on high alert

What are you still doing here TT!

I thought the silver lining in Werribee winning the prem would be that we were rid of you!

You and I might see our fair share of infractions with mods on board this year

 

[table tennis]

What are you still doing here TT!

I thought the silver lining in Werribee winning the prem would be that we were rid of you!

You and I might see our fair share of infractions with mods on board this year

Mate, there is always a negative, the negative of promotion is that the csection bigfooty thread. Full of stiffs.

 

[harper]

I think the issue may be, and I'll qoute the VAFA's Amatuer Status document, "Employment cannot be dependent on
playing for the club "

 

[The Touring Pro]

I think the issue may be, and I'll qoute the VAFA's Amatuer Status document, "Employment cannot be dependent on
playing for the club "

Harper, I am totally unbiased but just because a player gets a job doesnt mean they have to play for them. That is how the ammos work. If Player A needs a job and club A can get them one then that is fine. Just because player A gets a job doesnt mean they are tied to that club.

In order to compete with other comps the ammos is all about networking.... otherwisE how does Loewe, Voss, Harvey, etc get to play for Old Haileybury.

How does carl Peteson get to play for Old Carey etc.

There is not one club in the ammos who doesn't use employment to entice a player and if they say they don't then they are telling fibs!!!

 

[harper]

Harper, I am totally unbiased but just because a player gets a job doesnt mean they have to play for them. That is how the ammos work. If Player A needs a job and club A can get them one then that is fine. Just because player A gets a job doesnt mean they are tied to that club.

In order to compete with other comps the ammos is all about networking.... otherwisE how does Loewe, Voss, Harvey, etc get to play for Old Haileybury.

How does carl Peteson get to play for Old Carey etc.

There is not one club in the ammos who doesn't use employment to entice a player and if they say they don't then they are telling fibs!!!

Thanks Pro, I know where you're coming from. As a former club Prez I know our club tried to use our supporter and former player network to help guys get jobs in the hope that if you sort them out for work then the need to play for cash is at least a little less of a necessity and you stand a better chance of seeing them run out in your colours.

The point of my post refers back to what what Kruzering posted
-"I heard a rumour the VAFA are going to investigate Banyule over getting Adam Masters an Apprenticeship on the condition he would play for the club."

If we dispense with the grain of salt and take Kruzering on face value then the player / club may have a case to answer.

if this is the case (and it probably / hopefully isn't), I'd like to see the IR mess if the player decides to head to another club and loses his job as his employment was conditional on playing for the original club....food for thought.

 

[eddiesmith]

Shouldn't you be watching trollope final Eddie?

Thank god I didnt watch it was too busy at one of our many other GFs this weekend

 

[Pump and dump]

Thanks Pro, I know where you're coming from. As a former club Prez I know our club tried to use our supporter and former player network to help guys get jobs in the hope that if you sort them out for work then the need to play for cash is at least a little less of a necessity and you stand a better chance of seeing them run out in your colours.

The point of my post refers back to what what Kruzering posted
-"I heard a rumour the VAFA are going to investigate Banyule over getting Adam Masters an Apprenticeship on the condition he would play for the club."

If we dispense with the grain of salt and take Kruzering on face value then the player / club may have a case to answer.

if this is the case (and it probably / hopefully isn't), I'd like to see the IR mess if the player decides to head to another club and loses his job as his employment was conditional on playing for the original club....food for thought.

This is why you guys are down here in the depths of the VAFA, how do you think the big boys at the top end of town survive? Old Xavs, OM's etc do this stuff for a living, until you do the same you will be sitting in the 'no-one cares' divisions, where your only real use is helping pay for Sholly and Goodman's wages....sad but oh so true.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Thanks Pro, I know where you're coming from. As a former club Prez I know our club tried to use our supporter and former player network to help guys get jobs in the hope that if you sort them out for work then the need to play for cash is at least a little less of a necessity and you stand a better chance of seeing them run out in your colours.

The point of my post refers back to what what Kruzering posted
-"I heard a rumour the VAFA are going to investigate Banyule over getting Adam Masters an Apprenticeship on the condition he would play for the club."

If we dispense with the grain of salt and take Kruzering on face value then the player / club may have a case to answer.

if this is the case (and it probably / hopefully isn't), I'd like to see the IR mess if the player decides to head to another club and loses his job as his employment was conditional on playing for the original club....food for thought.

My Mail suggests that in his third year playing with them he will receive a free electrical van from his apperenticeship, again conditional on him playing with the club at least 3 years.

If true, surely this is a breach of the rules.

 

[Weiterbot23]

This is why you guys are down here in the depths of the VAFA, how do you think the big boys at the top end of town survive? Old Xavs, OM's etc do this stuff for a living, until you do the same you will be sitting in the 'no-one cares' divisions, where your only real use is helping pay for Sholly and Goodman's wages....sad but oh so true.

I would be disappointed if this is true.

I understand ammo football clubs are communities and obviously you'd help a mate out getting a job if you could, but when clubs such as Banyule are drawing players across with jobs and extra hidden incentives it crosses the line and makes the competition unfair.


A Masters was shopping himself around (with good reason he is a dead set gun) to many clubs that had all kinds of offers for him. Then he chose to play at Banyule for nothing ???? A club he is barely linked to (one mate plays there)....

R Masters came to a few of our training sessions but ended up at Banyule because they sorted him out with a teaching aide job while he finishes off uni as well (or so I heard).

If they wish to make payments to players I don't understand why they don't join the EFL or another league where paying players is allowed?

 

[Max Leader]

I would be disappointed if this is true.

I understand ammo football clubs are communities and obviously you'd help a mate out getting a job if you could, but when clubs such as Banyule are drawing players across with jobs and extra hidden incentives it crosses the line and makes the competition unfair.


A Masters was shopping himself around (with good reason he is a dead set gun) to many clubs that had all kinds of offers for him. Then he chose to play at Banyule for nothing ???? A club he is barely linked to (one mate plays there)....

R Masters came to a few of our training sessions but ended up at Banyule because they sorted him out with a teaching aide job while he finishes off uni as well (or so I heard).

If they wish to make payments to players I don't understand why they don't join the EFL or another league where paying players is allowed?

The BEAR is waking from its 10 year hibernation. Its hungry and it will eat anyone who gets in its way.

Kruzer. Stop crying. This is the way Ammo clubs work, either get on the train of go to sleep.

 

[Scribe]

Max,

Any sign of one Abe Williams running around for the Bears?
Saw his clearance went through on Friday.

Came 3rd in the Woodrow Medal in 2004 whilst at OTs, then played 6 seasons straight at Heidelberg including 3 flags and was captain of one of the most dominant DVFL/NFL sides in living memory in 2009.

Must be a pretty tasty carrot being handed around the Bear Cave, I'd estimate Abe would've been pulling $1K a game at the Tigers.

Who are these Masters kids?

 

[Max Leader]

Max,

Any sign of one Abe Williams running around for the Bears?
Saw his clearance went through on Friday.

Came 3rd in the Woodrow Medal in 2004 whilst at OTs, then played 6 seasons straight at Heidelberg including 3 flags and was captain of one of the most dominant DVFL/NFL sides in living memory in 2009.

Must be a pretty tasty carrot being handed around the Bear Cave, I'd estimate Abe would've been pulling $1K a game at the Tigers.

Who are these Masters kids?

AW is a Banyule junior who also coached teams in junior club.

It's not always about money.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Well said Max, I still remember the great man Scotty Playfair destroying all comers back in the late 90's at the Bears, was a man mountain.

Fraser, I see Brett Fields has signed with your mob, one of Tsindos's recruits?

 

[nomorebetts]

AW is a Banyule junior who also coached teams in junior club.

It's not always about money.

is it about the money in this case?

 

[Max Leader]

Take it back to your board with your sub-standard undersized grounds, thugish onfield acts and poor drinking culture.

If this is the way ammo clubs work why not put it in the rules??

Seems rediculous that clubs that follow the rules are disadvantaged and lose their old boys to clubs that cheat the rules and poach players??

I thought I would use my 500th post on something a little more interesting.
My section has Marc, boss, snake pit, pine lodge, beau, Uni Bl and J King Not really undersized.
Yes OB and Oak aren't big.
No real drinking problems
Teams that follow the rules prosper, those teams that don't offer jobs suffer. Just ask the teams that chased Aaron Lord. The rules says that a player can not receive payment for playing. 500 out

 

[Scribe]

Well said Max, I still remember the great man Scotty Playfair destroying all comers back in the late 90's at the Bears, was a man mountain.

Fraser, I see Brett Fields has signed with your mob, one of Tsindos's recruits?

Yep, SOS has worked diligently on Brett who seemed to have fallen out of favour at SKOB. Not sure if there's any others, but we need ruckman, and he's got premiership experience at senior level. Good bloke to boot and has fitted in well straight away.

On a more D1 relevant noted, I have been advised that Abe is returning to his junior club after achieving all you could expect at the suburban level. Will be an awesome acquisition, should dominate the comp and help the younger Bear develop in the process. Just a prime example of how the VAFA network can work in your favour I guess.

 

[Weiterbot23]

I thought I would use my 500th post on something a little more interesting.
My section has Marc, boss, snake pit, pine lodge, beau, Uni Bl and J King Not really undersized.
Yes OB and Oak aren't big.
No real drinking problems
Teams that follow the rules prosper, those teams that don't offer jobs suffer. Just ask the teams that chased Aaron Lord. The rules says that a player can not receive payment for playing. 500 out

So just to confirm

-You didn't get Adam Masters away from east Burwood where he has played his whole life to Banyule with a job that he only got if he signed with Banyule? and there is no clause saying that if he plays 3 years he will get an Electrical Van free from his work?

-You didn't get Rhett Masters a Job as a teachers aide on the condition that he would play for the club?

-You didn't get Beau a job on the condition he played for your club?

-You aren't giving this other bloke who scribe projected to have been on $1000 a game in the Northen leauge any sort of $$ incentive?


It is against the ammos rules to give players jobs on the condition they play for your football club. I have heard from a source (one very close to the situation) that you are doing this.

You may aswell come clean now, then waste a season before being pulled up by the authorities.

 

[Scribe]

KReuzering - FYI Max is from Old Ivanhoe, not Banyule.

 

[Cardio Carl]

KReuzering - FYI Max is from Old Ivanhoe, not Banyule.

wonder if he is also the social media attack dog for the new investigating officer?

i think the bullyboy threats to have posters table things on here from clubs is bordering on something more sinister.

 

[Weiterbot23]

wonder if he is also the social media attack dog for the new investigating officer?

i think the bullyboy threats to have posters table things on here from clubs is bordering on something more sinister.

Just don't want to see the integrity of the competition compromised.

If this is the way ammos work then why not make it offcial and have a rule stating that it is fine to lure players with jobs that have extra cash incentives???

 

[Max Leader]

KReuzering - FYI Max is from Old Ivanhoe, not Banyule.

1975-1982 Banyule FC
1983-Present Old Ivanhoe

Veteran Max Out

 

[ultimate hater]

Just don't want to see the integrity of the competition compromised.

If this is the way ammos work then why not make it offcial and have a rule stating that it is fine to lure players with jobs that have extra cash incentives???

Drop off

 

[Weiterbot23]

Drop off

Is that code of making illeagal payments?

I'm going to do the "Drop off" on Sunday if he get's in the best.

 

[Cardio Carl]

Just don't want to see the integrity of the competition compromised.

If this is the way ammos work then why not make it offcial and have a rule stating that it is fine to lure players with jobs that have extra cash incentives???

post of the year.

well said, now we can all move on.

cheers

CC