Review Dogs 90 overcome a slow start to beat ASADA 49

[Shadesof54]

It was an epic run that year, Flacco played the best football of his career for 4 games to win the Super Bowl.


Hoping that we go really well this year with an absolutely loaded team and a new OC. (And we sign J Houston sometime very soon, he needs another ring).

There is a Baltimore Ravens thread on the NFL section of Bigfooty.

Hahaha that's classic that's it's resonated on the board .. flaco beat brady and manning in successive weeks that year ..

In the NFL there seems to be little patience when it's obvious that the team is near success, perhaps it's the general managers having more say, as it's unlikely a head coach would fire a staff member he appointed. Would Ameet Baines have the balls to sack one of our assistants without bevo's blessing? And then appoint the replacement..

Did soemthing not dissimilar happen at Richmond at the end of 2016, where the board saw good metrics , and forced the issue on Hardwick

 

[grassman75]

The big bowl of Spaghetti a la Crabsquib Liberatore and Bontempelli dine out on every time this fixture rolls around

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Surprised this meal doesn’t come with a side of Dodoro

 

[Dog 36]

By end of Round 22 Bumbers would have played West Coast and North twice that is 4 games the Dogs would have played North only once.

AFL biggest issue integrity of the draw

 

[grassman75]

By end of Round 22 Bumbers would have played West Coast and North twice that is 4 games the Dogs would have played North only once.

AFL biggest issue integrity of the draw

And yet they are still in 11th and we are 5th and people on here want to sack the coach.

Sure we’ve dropped some games we should have won, but if you look at the ladder it appears to be a very even season…how even if you say Essendon will have in all likelihood scored 16 premiership points and large % from beating up on the bottom 2.

This is why a wildcard / 10 team finals won’t work - the gulf outside the 8 seems close, but its miles apart because of a flawed draw where the lower teams play each other more and grossly inflate their standings

 

[CDBulldog]

Was really happy with his contested game last night, that’s not something I’ve seen from him yet at either level. Really good intent when at times he can look to be going through the motions a bit.

He’s definitely one sided though and I don’t really rate his disposal very highly, it’s very safe & loopy - just doesn’t do a whole lot of damage. But fair play to him he doesn’t turn it over. Would want to see him in a good system where he has more dangerous options presenting before I made a call either way.

He’s going okay though, playing his role

I actually think his disposal is pretty good. He can roost the ball and has a bit of dash. We’ve been a pretty slow side for a couple of years but with Baker, Poulter, JJ, Dale, Baz, Red, VDM, A Jones we’ve Definently got a bit of pace.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Coaches Votes

Essendon v Western Bulldogs​

10 Marcus Bontempelli

4

Marcus Bontempelli

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

(WB)
8 Tom Liberatore (WB)
5 Jordan Ridley

14

Jordan Ridley

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

4.5

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

244.8

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

11.9

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

6.7

5star

T

1.7

3star

MG

265.4

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

MG

208.2

4star

(ESS)
3 Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

(WB)
2 Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

(WB)
1 Caleb Daniel

35

Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

(WB)
1 Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (WB)

 

[Golden_6]

Interesting that the majority of posters on Bigfooty had Libba BOG with Bont a close second, coaches didn't agree. I suspect Bont will get the 3 votes come brownlow night as well.

 

[Next Waiting]

Interesting that the majority of posters on Bigfooty had Libba BOG with Bont a close second, coaches didn't agree. I suspect Bont will get the 3 votes come brownlow night as well.

Libba is 18th= in the overall coaches' votes standings.

He's had a mighty season.

 

[Dog 36]

Libba is 18th= in the overall coaches' votes standings.

He's had a mighty season.

I think I will cry when he retires.Footy for me won’t be the same once Liber is gone

He is a genuine footballers footballer

He is brilliant

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I think I will cry when he retires.Footy for me won’t be the same once Liber is gone

He is a genuine footballers footballer

He is brilliant

It'll be another decade before we have another Libratore on the field, hopefully his son is just as good as father and grandfather.

It ain't the Bulldogs unless we have a Libba' running around.

 

[dogwatch]

It'll be another decade before we have another Libratore on the field, hopefully his son is just as good as father and grandfather.

It ain't the Bulldogs unless we have a Libba' running around.

Libba I was 164
Libba II is 183
If the inter generational growth pattern continues Libba III will be over 200cm.

 

[St 07]

It'll be another decade before we have another Libratore on the field, hopefully his son is just as good as father and grandfather.

It ain't the Bulldogs unless we have a Libba' running around.

Lets say Libba has at worst 3 more years (2 strong, last one defiantly petering out) then it's 7 years without Libba?

Still too long

 

[dogwatch]

Did anyone notice the insipid singing of the team song after the win over the Bombers? Pathetic, no oomph, no raucous volume and almost everyone was in key which I found the most disturbing part.

The singing coach has definitely lost them. I no longer have faith in him/her. Gotta go.

We need the soft cap space for another myotherapist anyway.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Lets say Libba has at worst 3 more years (2 strong, last one defiantly petering out) then it's 7 years without Libba?

Still too long

Bit longer. Oscar Libratores draft year will be 2038.. Solid two rebuilds in there before we have another Libba on the list.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Its hilarious watching the various media types discussing Libbas season like he's been some kinda journeyman his entire career.

I recall one from yesterday acting all kinds of surprised at how skilled he actually is with ball in hand.

Ive said it before, but in their mind he is only now coming out of the shadow of perception that was attached to his father. When in reality he surpassed him years ago. He has vision and a skillset on par with any midfielder player in the game and has since the start of his career. It's a travesty that the media are only now picking up on that fact and mentioning him as a AA contender when he should be a lock.

 

[dogwatch]

Its hilarious watching the various media types discussing Libbas season like he's been some kinda journeyman his entire career.

I recall one from yesterday acting all kinds of surprised at how skilled he actually is with ball in hand.

Ive said it before, but in their mind he is only now coming out of the shadow of perception that was attached to his father. When in reality he surpassed him years ago. He has vision and a skillset on par with any midfielder player in the game and has since the start of his career. It's a travesty that the media are only now picking up on that fact and mentioning him as a AA contender when he should be a lock.

He could have pre-empted all that by playing for Essendon. He would have been hailed as the messiah.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

He could have pre-empted all that by playing for Essendon. He would have been hailed as the messiah.

Just spat the almond cappuccino all over my smoking jacket

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Its hilarious watching the various media types discussing Libbas season like he's been some kinda journeyman his entire career.

I recall one from yesterday acting all kinds of surprised at how skilled he actually is with ball in hand.

Ive said it before, but in their mind he is only now coming out of the shadow of perception that was attached to his father. When in reality he surpassed him years ago. He has vision and a skillset on par with any midfielder player in the game and has since the start of his career. It's a travesty that the media are only now picking up on that fact and mentioning him as a AA contender when he should be a lock.

They've forgotten he was a B'n'F whose career was interrupted by two knee reconstructions. He has had a stellar career, which only takes a little research to reveal. It's not a recent phenomenon.

Tom Liberatore | AFL

Follow Tom Liberatore's progress through AFL

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

 

[Next Waiting]

I could never quite understand why Mitch Wallis was touted as the top 5 draft pick and not Libba in their draft year. As has been mentioned, Libba's skills were evident from the moment he played for us. Combative, a brilliant extractor, defender, hand-baller, kicked off both feet with range and precision and had vision. Did the draft pundits just miss it or was Libba not trying too hard in his draft year.

Below is the top 10 from that year.



Arguably he was in fact the best player in the draft that year. Lynch at 11 and Isaac Smith

7

Isaac Smith

Age

35

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

at 19 in the mix and Prestia made a big difference to the Tiges when he got there. Throw in Gaff and that's your top 5, and all things considered, Libba is arguably still the best of the lot of them.

Perhaps his draft position of 41 blinded the "experts" to his skills and talents. And by perhaps I mean it almost certainly did.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

I could never quite understand why Mitch Wallis was touted as the top 5 draft pick and not Libba in their draft year. As has been mentioned, Libba's skills were evident from the moment he played for us. Combative, a brilliant extractor, defender, hand-baller, kicked off both feet with range and precision and had vision. Did the draft pundits just miss it or was Libba not trying too hard in his draft year.

Below is the top 10 from that year.

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Arguably he was in fact the best player in the draft that year. Lynch at 11 and Isaac Smith at 19 in the mix and Prestia made a big difference to the Tiges when he got there. Throw in Gaff and that's your top 5, and all things considered, Libba is arguably still the best of the lot of them.

Perhaps his draft position of 41 blinded the "experts" to his skills and talents. And by perhaps I mean it almost certainly did.

Horrific draft year. Either Gold Coast were utterly shafted re the top 10 talent of their development program destroyed lots of careers. We’ll never know.

 

[scooter600x]

I could never quite understand why Mitch Wallis was touted as the top 5 draft pick and not Libba in their draft year. As has been mentioned, Libba's skills were evident from the moment he played for us. Combative, a brilliant extractor, defender, hand-baller, kicked off both feet with range and precision and had vision. Did the draft pundits just miss it or was Libba not trying too hard in his draft year.

The club internally rated Liberatore higher than Wallis, too.
The rules regarding father-sons at the time meant it didn't really matter in which order they were taken, we were always going to need our first two picks and everyone knew we weren't going to pass on either.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I could never quite understand why Mitch Wallis was touted as the top 5 draft pick and not Libba in their draft year. As has been mentioned, Libba's skills were evident from the moment he played for us. Combative, a brilliant extractor, defender, hand-baller, kicked off both feet with range and precision and had vision. Did the draft pundits just miss it or was Libba not trying too hard in his draft year.

Below is the top 10 from that year.

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Arguably he was in fact the best player in the draft that year. Lynch at 11 and Isaac Smith at 19 in the mix and Prestia made a big difference to the Tiges when he got there. Throw in Gaff and that's your top 5, and all things considered, Libba is arguably still the best of the lot of them.

Perhaps his draft position of 41 blinded the "experts" to his skills and talents. And by perhaps I mean it almost certainly did.

I remember an opposition fan from Essendon I think, said before we drafted them that Libba was by far the better player and would have the better career.

I think everyone was dazzled by Mitch’s 49 possessions in a grand final win.

 

[yebach]

I could never quite understand why Mitch Wallis was touted as the top 5 draft pick and not Libba in their draft year. As has been mentioned, Libba's skills were evident from the moment he played for us. Combative, a brilliant extractor, defender, hand-baller, kicked off both feet with range and precision and had vision. Did the draft pundits just miss it or was Libba not trying too hard in his draft year.

Below is the top 10 from that year.

View attachment 1755136

Arguably he was in fact the best player in the draft that year. Lynch at 11 and Isaac Smith at 19 in the mix and Prestia made a big difference to the Tiges when he got there. Throw in Gaff and that's your top 5, and all things considered, Libba is arguably still the best of the lot of them.

Perhaps his draft position of 41 blinded the "experts" to his skills and talents. And by perhaps I mean it almost certainly did.

Kinear Beatson ( Swans recruiter) rated Libba in hus top 8 players at the time. Ahead of Wallis.

 

[Next Waiting]

Kinear Beatson ( Swans recruiter) rated Libba in hus top 8 players at the time. Ahead of Wallis.

Seems like a good judge. Did he nominate a clear top player?

 

[King Harold]

Bit longer. Oscar Libratores draft year will be 2038.. Solid two rebuilds in there before we have another Libba on the list.

I will follow his progress with interest from the Afterlife