Autopsy Dogs into prelim - beat Brissy

[VogonProsthetnic]

All of that does not matter. It was brought in to aid goal-line situations. This was a field umpire's call no different to the missed in the back to Vandermeer.
It was not brought in to check the work of poor field umpiring.

Exactly. Nor are the cameras set up to pick up stuff 40m away from the goal. The ARC guy said there was a deviation, which was plain wrong. If the umpire didn’t notice the touch, I don’t see how they can use made up parameters but pretend they had something concrete there.

 

[josh the gent]

So there’s a port fan supposedly posting medical records, who apparently has form on it. Potentially related to Bont but thankfully the port mods got there first.

disgraceful conduct by whoever it was anyway. I’d hope anyone here wouldn’t stoop that low

What a tosser!

The whole Bont situation would be giving Power coaching staff a headache though. Hinkley would be working through plans if he plays normally, as a forward, or if he doesn’t play at all…

 

[Mattdougie]

Having kids is hard without good support. IF she is isolated and feels she needs more support, then they must move.
What I question is the decision making to move to QLD in the first place. Why not stay in WA and not move to QLD in the first place.

Then wait two years until the contract is over or at least til mid 2023 to get pregnant and then plan the move back to Perth.

Neale made a commitment and the Lions have paid handsomely for him so stiff sh!t. It’s like some of these people are incapable of raising a child without a team around them 24/7.

Hope the lions keep him to his contract

 

[LittleG]

Then wait two years until the contract is over or at least til mid 2023 to get pregnant and then plan the move back to Perth.

Neale made a commitment and the Lions have paid handsomely for him so stiff sh!t. It’s like some of these people are incapable of raising a child without a team around them 24/7.

Hope the lions keep him to his contract

Agree.

 

[blagodellago]

The club should cover the bont’s hotel room door with a largish rock and come back a few days later. Reckon he’d be peaking


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[Munnez]

If you watch that again charlie Cameron pushes duryea in the marking contest otherwise that ball doesn't go over the back to bailey for a goal should have been a free kick every day

Lions got away with that all night Andrews shoved Schache in the back with both hands to move him out of the marking contest was absolute howler to not pay it against him

 

[Doggy]

Lions got away with that all night Andrews shoved Schache in the back with both hands to move him out of the marking contest was absolute howler to not pay it against him

Nah. They was robbed right in front of me derp

 

[Munnez]

He is a much better and more important player than some fans give him credit for

Absolutely plays an important role in our forward structure

 

[Draft Pick]

Thoughts on the Dale non-holding the ball decision ? Important call cause the dogs got the clearance from it and Bailey kicked that goal on his left.

Initially I thought it was a bad decision not to pay it as he fell on top of the ball and it appeared that he didn't get it out.

Having a closer look he does get the ball out, however Rich seems to pull it back under him.

Regardless, it was a very close call either way, but not as clear cut as it looks.

 

[Doggy]

Thoughts on the Dale non-holding the ball decision ? Important call cause the dogs got the clearance from it and Bailey kicked that goal on his left.

Initially I thought it was a bad decision not to pay it as he fell on top of the ball and it appeared that he didn't get it out.

Having a closer look he does get the ball out, however Rich seems to pull it back under him.

Regardless, it was a very close call either way, but not as clear cut as it looks.

He never dragged the ball in, unlike Neale

 

[BEaston]

Thoughts on the Dale non-holding the ball decision ? Important call cause the dogs got the clearance from it and Bailey kicked that goal on his left.

Initially I thought it was a bad decision not to pay it as he fell on top of the ball and it appeared that he didn't get it out.

Having a closer look he does get the ball out, however Rich seems to pull it back under him.

Regardless, it was a very close call either way, but not as clear cut as it looks.

Free kick clearly.

 

[Doggy]

Free kick clearly.

Umpiring ticked off by the afl.

The umpire twitter account also said that it was the correct decision

 

[LittleG]

Thoughts on the Dale non-holding the ball decision ? Important call cause the dogs got the clearance from it and Bailey kicked that goal on his left.

Initially I thought it was a bad decision not to pay it as he fell on top of the ball and it appeared that he didn't get it out.

Having a closer look he does get the ball out, however Rich seems to pull it back under him.

Regardless, it was a very close call either way, but not as clear cut as it looks.

Umpire saw Rich drag the ball in…. Appears to be a correct call.

I didn’t see it from the camera angle but the umpire was to the right of the screen and he could have seen it more clearly.

 

[dogwatch]

Umpiring ticked off by the afl.

The umpire twitter account also said that it was the correct decision

I thought I read an article on WB BF this morning saying the AFL ticked off all decisions EXCEPT the Dale one. (Perhaps in the "What they're saying" thread?)

Not sure if they meant for the whole match or just for the last quarter. There were certainly a few dodgy decisions earlier in the game that could have been just as critical against us.

EDIT: yes, here it is:

...it is understood the league has ticked off most, if not all, of these decisions.

But the decision to call for a ball-up instead of pinging All-Australian Dog Bailey Dale is believed to have been the main error picked out.

It was from Virgin Dog's long post this morning with reports from the H/S. The first sentence about getting the tick refers only to a few controversial decisions in the last quarter I think, so probably not every decision for the whole match.

 

[Morris Major]

Thoughts on the Dale non-holding the ball decision ? Important call cause the dogs got the clearance from it and Bailey kicked that goal on his left.

Initially I thought it was a bad decision not to pay it as he fell on top of the ball and it appeared that he didn't get it out.

Having a closer look he does get the ball out, however Rich seems to pull it back under him.

Regardless, it was a very close call either way, but not as clear cut as it looks.

Correct call or not, it's common for those to get paid. Maybe the umpire saw enough to determine Dale didn't drag it in.

 

[Munnez]

Finally saw replay, and good to add another perspective after watching live . Great to see so many dogs there .
Lewis young does try hard but with little reward , what did stand out to me was his inability to be involved in general play , not sure what his Possession count was but it couldnt have been much . Which is a shame and baffling seeing he does gallop around a lot .
Also we do have a lot of guys leaping at the same ball often and thus spoil our own marks .

A number of times Young was in position to mark and he just fisted it away. If he takes the grab it relieves pressure and he becomes more involved. I'm sure in the review he would be told go for the mark if you think you can take it

 

[dogwatch]

One expression that I've read a few times this week is that in finals (especially late in finals) "the umpire should put the whistle away".

Do people really believe this? Why should rules be enforced differently in the last quarter to the first? Or in a semi-final differently to Round 1?

I believe this is what does indeed happen sometimes but that doesn't make it right. If anything it underlines what's wrong with the way the game is officiated. It's understandable conservatism from the umpire's point of view. He doesn't want to be remembered and vilified forever as "the umpire who stole a premiership" from some club, but it's still inconsistent and it undermines confidence in the way the game is officiated.

If the whistle can be put away in the finals it can be put away all year long. If not, then just pay them as you see them. Whatever game it is and whatever the score.

 

[Doggy]

I thought I read an article on WB BF this morning saying the AFL ticked off all decisions EXCEPT the Dale one. (Perhaps in the "What they're saying" thread?)

Not sure if they meant for the whole match or just for the last quarter. There were certainly a few dodgy decisions earlier in the game that could have been just as critical against us.

EDIT: yes, here it is:

It was from Virgin Dog's long post this morning with reports from the H/S. The first sentence about getting the tick refers only to a few controversial decisions in the last quarter I think, so probably not every decision for the whole match.

The Dale decision was absolutely correct.

He didn't drag that in, that was Rich.

It would have been a shocker to pay that

 

[bresker]

Umpires are allowed to mistakes

 

[House_of_Dahl]

A number of times Young was in position to mark and he just fisted it away. If he takes the grab it relieves pressure and he becomes more involved. I'm sure in the review he would be told go for the mark if you think you can take it

Silly thing is Young is an excellent mark. Might have been nerves got the better of him so didn't go for it

 

[Draft Pick]

Umpires are allowed to mistakes

Sure. Fans should also be able to respectfully analyse decisions with the full knowledge that it is a tough job.

 

[BEaston]

One expression that I've read a few times this week is that in finals (especially late in finals) "the umpire should put the whistle away".

Do people really believe this? Why should rules be enforced differently in the last quarter to the first? Or in a semi-final differently to Round 1?

I believe this is what does indeed happen sometimes but that doesn't make it right. If anything it underlines what's wrong with the way the game is officiated. It's understandable conservatism from the umpire's point of view. He doesn't want to be remembered and vilified forever as "the umpire who stole a premiership" from some club, but it's still inconsistent and it undermines confidence in the way the game is officiated.

If the whistle can be put away in the finals it can be put away all year long. If not, then just pay them as you see them. Whatever game it is and whatever the score.

the rules are the rules. they should apply as they are, at all times.

 

[weltschmerz]

One expression that I've read a few times this week is that in finals (especially late in finals) "the umpire should put the whistle away".

Do people really believe this? Why should rules be enforced differently in the last quarter to the first? Or in a semi-final differently to Round 1?

I believe this is what does indeed happen sometimes but that doesn't make it right. If anything it underlines what's wrong with the way the game is officiated. It's understandable conservatism from the umpire's point of view. He doesn't want to be remembered and vilified forever as "the umpire who stole a premiership" from some club, but it's still inconsistent and it undermines confidence in the way the game is officiated.

If the whistle can be put away in the finals it can be put away all year long. If not, then just pay them as you see them. Whatever game it is and whatever the score.

Only when their team is the one giving away the frees.

 

[SonOfScray]

Umpiring ticked off by the afl.

The umpire twitter account also said that it was the correct decision

could have been pinged. I thought the umpire was in three minds, initially going to pay it, then the pressure and contact came in high, then it looked to have been push back in. Should have been HTB as he dived on it and didn't make an attempt, but we'd see a heap more HTB decisions if that was the threshold.

 

[Dogs 13]

Silly thing is Young is an excellent mark. Might have been nerves got the better of him so didn't go for it

I think we tend to see these double fist punches where it could be marked by young, inexperienced players who are working to instructions. They don't have the confidence to back their judgement to go for it as yet. We also see Gardner doing this quite frequently.