Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[guruisatiger]

I would love Jaques. Would be the perfect Short upgrade and a terrific half back partner with Travaglia. If we could land both, it would be amazing.

Prefer lynsday and oliver or Angus Clarke
Over trav and jaques

 

[guruisatiger]

I got a feeling tigers take lalor and fos and carlton take draper

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Hope you are correct

 

[guruisatiger]

I do like Jacques although I feel top 20 is a bit early but I suppose Richmond have enough picks they can afford to go early in the 20s (unless they trade back for more picks). But yes I think for someone in the 2nd round he will be great value. He's the sort of player that to me has good skills and a great footy brain once he fills out.

Better players than Jacques
Definitely a no to him

 

[sr36]

Think after this year they have got it bang on it’s just really annoying GC can pillage the draft last year and this year for 2c in the dollar. For years they have overrated picks outside pick 35.

The thing I don't get is that they brought in the rule to stop clubs taking more picks than they had list spots into the draft, but have just ignored the creation of fake list spots by delisting and then re-drafting players.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Heard a rumour that Sydney is interested in a player most rate as a mid to late second rounder with our first pick. We are convinced that we see something in this mid sized outside mid or small forward that no one else sees.

Brilliant! Look forward to him being delisted or traded in 2 years time.

In all seriousness though, does Sydney making a reach work out well for them historically?
Stephens and Vickery immediately come to mind.

 

[RockJobster0312]

That was last year that Colina extended (4th year) as a Cat B rookie.
He will be relisted as a Cat A rookie. Therefore Richmond can only pick a maximum of 7 players in the draft.

Richmond has 27 on the main list and seven on the rookie list currently. Total list spots is 44, with a minimum of 36 on the primary list and a maximum of eight on the rookie list.

Mate will go on the rookie list (taking it to the full amount of eight) and have nine list spots available for the eight picks in the National draft.

Richmond can’t take more picks into the draft than list spots, so Richmond would have had to trade some picks into the future before tomorrow pick trading deadline (RFC had to do it in 2021 and traded with Collingwood for Pennies on the dollar) if it could only take seven selections.

My bet is Richmond take 6-7 picks on draft night, trade at least one into 2025 and promote someone from the rookie list and either take someone in the rookie draft or as an SSP.

 

[Profop]

The more I look at the draft talent all the way to pick 40, it seems so even. Especially from pick 15 to 40.

Makes no sense for my team the Hawks to pay ridiculous overs to move from Pick 33. Only for a true Top 15 slider would we consider that.

At Pick 33 we will have enough options. Surely one of Sims, Gerryn, Mraz, Barrat, Oliver, Davis etc will be available. So any trade deals that includes pick 33 means other side are not losing out much as this draft is quite equal from 15-35 or so.

I would assume the same feeing for other's who have pick in 20's and 30's. Tigers dreams of teams throwing up F1's to get their pick 18-24 is quite likely to get dashed.

Herald Sun Mock Draft,
Archive of Day 1
https://archive.is/AfftB
Day 2
https://archive.md/RgzQy

PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Richmond’s late first round pick early second round picks are attractive to teams because they think the quality in this draft at that point might be better than the quality of their respective picks next year

Then they also continue to be happy with the later picks they already have

 

[swuzzlebubble]

does Sydney making a reach work out well for them historically?

It's not a reach if you believe it

 

[tigs2010]

Richmond’s late first round pick early second round picks are attractive to teams because they think the quality in this draft at that point might be better than the quality of their respective picks next year

Then they also continue to be happy with the later picks they already have

The guy you're responding to has melted on every thread about Richmond's picks.

 

[sr36]

Richmond has 27 on the main list and seven on the rookie list currently. Total list spots is 44, with a minimum of 36 on the primary list and a maximum of eight on the rookie list.

Mate will go on the rookie list (taking it to the full amount of eight) and have nine list spots available for the eight picks in the National draft.

Richmond can’t take more picks into the draft than list spots, so Richmond would have had to trade some picks into the future before tomorrow pick trading deadline (RFC had to do it in 2021 and traded with Collingwood for Pennies on the dollar) if it could only take seven selections.

My bet is Richmond take 6-7 picks on draft night, trade at least one into 2025 and promote someone from the rookie list and either take someone in the rookie draft or as an SSP.

The relevant number is 42 not 44. 44 includes 2 cat b rookies. So you've only got 7 rather than 9 cat a or senior list vacancies.

 

[LB2Snake]

Was hilarious when it happened still is but what do you expect the AFL and their wisdom not thinking how it would operate teams are silly if they don’t try and get around the rules within the parameters of course

Was actually brilliant by the Swans.......Typical AFL "on the run rules and regs" though and you circumnavigated them

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The thing I don't get is that they brought in the rule to stop clubs taking more picks than they had list spots into the draft, but have just ignored the creation of fake list spots by delisting and then re-drafting players.

This is the AFL I’ll try to say this nicely they are masters at patch up jobs. They remind me of a shopping centre when you have an escalator not working and they fix this bit or that bit and not replace the whole thing

 

[LB2Snake]

This is the AFL I’ll try to say this nicely they are masters at patch up jobs. They remind me of a shopping centre when you have an escalator not working and they fix this bit or that bit and not replace the whole thing

Everything AFL does they need to alter, hilarious for a massive business, but they have no real competition, so it's all trial and error on the customer.
What ya gunna do with your username? It's not so easy to just change is it?

 

[hawkinoz]

Richmond’s late first round pick early second round picks are attractive to teams because they think the quality in this draft at that point might be better than the quality of their respective picks next year

Then they also continue to be happy with the later picks they already have

My point is look at the HS mock draft, will give it below for better context
PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Pick 20 is being called out and draft flows as above, how many teams are trading a F1 to get Tigers pick 21? Or any pick from thereon. Is there talent left that is worthy of a F1 trade?

Will you trade a F1+(pick 25-35) to get one of guys still on board? F1 by itself I can see is a chance if a team doesn't pick with the next 15 picks or won't add their 2nd round pick.

I can imagine F2+(pick 25-35) is possible but surely not F1. Tigers fans don't want this reality to be observed and discussed.

 

[RockJobster0312]

The relevant number is 42 not 44. 44 includes 2 cat b rookies. So you've only got 7 rather than 9 cat a or senior list vacancies.

I stand corrected.

That said, 27 primary list spots still means 8 primary list spots. Promoting a rookie would mean 28 primary and 6 Cat A, allowing eight National Draft selections.

If Richmond select ant all eight picks (which I doubt) then there would be no further room to promote a Cat-A rookie and therefore couldn’t promote Colina.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Everything AFL does they need to alter, hilarious for a massive business, but they have no real competition, so it's all trial and error on the customer.
What ya gunna do with your username? It's not so easy to just change is it?

Just haven’t got around to changing it ultra busy unfortunately

 

[sr36]

I stand corrected.

That said, 27 primary list spots still means 8 primary list spots. Promoting a rookie would mean 28 primary and 6 Cat A, allowing eight National Draft selections.

If Richmond select ant all eight picks (which I doubt) then there would be no further room to promote a Cat-A rookie and therefore couldn’t promote Colina.

That's all correct, but Tiges aren't going to tell a kid they're going to re-draft him, announce it in the press and then not re-draft him. It'd be really shit. It's technically a list vacancy, but it's not really.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Just haven’t got around to changing it ultra busy unfortunately

Should be an easy fix. NoLukeParker.
Or maybe give it the old Lionel Hutz treatment - LukeParker?No!

 

[The Filth Wizard]

That's all correct, but Tiges aren't going to tell a kid they're going to re-draft him, announce it in the press and then not re-draft him. It'd be really shit. It's technically a list vacancy, but it's not really.

I sense some clubs make these delistings in the hope a repeat of North poaching Hugh Greenwood takes place.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Should be an easy fix. NoLukeParker.
Or maybe give it the old Lionel Hutz treatment - LukeParker?No!

Be something with another player lol

 

[Futbolista]

Jaren Carr (South Fremantle) who did not nominate for the 2024 mid-season draft, despite interest from Brisbane and others, to be picked up by Fremantle. (Was he promised something by Fremantle and advised not to nominate mid-season
2024?)

 

[Profop]

My point is look at the HS mock draft, will give it below for better context
PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Pick 20 is being called out and draft flows as above, how many teams are trading a F1 to get Tigers pick 21? Or any pick from thereon. Is there talent left that is worthy of a F1 trade?

Will you trade a F1+(pick 25-35) to get one of guys still on board? F1 by itself I can see is a chance if a team doesn't pick with the next 15 picks or won't add their 2nd round pick.

I can imagine F2+(pick 25-35) is possible but surely not F1. Tigers fans don't want this reality to be observed and discussed.

Right so what you’re actually trying to say is you don’t think teams are going to give up a F1 + a late 2nd/3rd rounder to move up the draft

I don’t think anyone was expecting that sort of return to be honest

More of an expectation that Richmond will trade at least one of those picks out for a F1 standalone

 

[Mutineer]

I sense some clubs make these delistings in the hope a repeat of North poaching Hugh Greenwood takes place.

Adelaide would be hoping...LOL

 

[richoatthedisco]

This is the AFL I’ll try to say this nicely they are masters at patch up jobs. They remind me of a shopping centre when you have an escalator not working and they fix this bit or that bit and not replace the whole thing

The AFL is like the old lady who swallowed a fly. Only she died after the horse, whereas the AFL is tucking into its fourth elephant.

 

[sr36]

I sense some clubs make these delistings in the hope a repeat of North poaching Hugh Greenwood takes place.

Only relevant for the contracted ones, but yep no doubt some clubs would prefer to have some contracted players gone. Not likely though. They would have been offered up for free in trade week. They're now signable as DFA.