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[French Tiger]

Haha .... Tigger supporters desperate for Pick 2 but aren't willing to cough up enough to North

Pick 6 & 11 thanks

I haven’t read all the posts but I’m not to fussed at all. 6 there is going to be a Smilie/Smith etc still available so don’t necessarily see the need to do the trade.

If it was 6 & 11 I’d just prefer to keep the picks


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[sr36]

Ah OK, that makes sense now. Would be very interesting if they threw that many picks at a club.

Clubs might be lining up to make us offers for 8.

Port and Essendon are the only two I think capable of jumping into the top 11. They're the ones who could make offers too good to refuse. No one else is really in a position to. And I think Essendon will make a big offer as they have two strong future firsts and they can't use 28 and 31 themselves.

 

[sr36]

I don't think it matters how many picks they throw out. Richmond won't trade 10 or 11 for a future pick and Saints won't trade 8. They would need to throw out both F1s for them to even think about it.

Also, 28 and 31 will get swallowed up by the Kako bid and they'll need to keep at least one F1 or F2. So, they can trade both F1s or an F1+F2 and then their late picks in the 40s.

Reckon GWS 16 is the earliest pick they could get. Either that or Richmond 18/20.

It depends how large the gaps Richmond perceive between 11 and their later picks. By pick 11, they will have already taken 3 picks and an "I can't believe he was still there" guy.

And the rules are, if they still hold an F1, they can trade all their other future picks if they want

Plus they have enough later picks to match Kako if he gets to about pick 7.

 

[banzai]

I don't think it matters how many picks they throw out. Richmond won't trade 10 or 11 for a future pick and Saints won't trade 8. They would need to throw out both F1s for them to even think about it.

Also, 28 and 31 will get swallowed up by the Kako bid and they'll need to keep at least one F1 or F2. So, they can trade both F1s or an F1+F2 and then their late picks in the 40s.

Reckon GWS 16 is the earliest pick they could get. Either that or Richmond 18/20.

I think the point is they would trade in before the Kako bid. If it hasnt happened by pick 11, they could trade 28, 31 and future picks to try and get the pick off us. Then their later picks are used in the Kako bid.

 

[marcmurphy3]

If North take Tauru at 2 Melbourne, Richmond and St Kilda all get bumped up one spot in the queue as far as picking the midfielder they want at 5,6,7.

I wonder how much that factors into no decent offers coming for pick 2 as of yet. St Kilda and Richmond have been considered suitors for it. Maybe they figure they can box North into taking Tauru early by not giving them a decent trade down option. Melbourne contributing by feigning interest in Tauru at 5.

They probably don't get the player they take if they had 2 but end up with a close alternative without having to pay anything. It's only one spot but could make a big difference in terms of preferred players being available. Could mean a Jagga gets to Richmond at 6 or a Draper to Saints at 7.

Of course, North could call their bluff and pick a mid at 2, so there'd be a fair few mind games going on.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think the point is they would trade in before the Kako bid. If it hasnt happened by pick 11, they could trade 28, 31 and future picks to try and get the pick off us. Then their later picks are used in the Kako bid.

That is true. Yes, possible in that case. That said, I still think both F1s would need to be on the table for Richmond to consider it.

 

[sr36]

That is true. Yes, possible in that case. That said, I still think both F1s would need to be on the table for Richmond to consider it.

I think Richmond would back themselves to turn a F1, f2 28 and 31 into 2 first rounders comfortably, particularly with f2 becoming the matching picks for top kids next year.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I don’t think so. I think about the best we would get for our F1 would be pick 19 or 20, and for all we know we could finish bottom 4 next year, while North probably wouldn’t get a pick inside 15 for theirs, so I’d say there’s very little chance of a team who could win the flag getting a pick inside 25, for their F1.

Especially with potentially 5 other clubs offering up their F1’s for the same picks.

Hmm, let’s see. Only takes two to create a market, but ultimately there will be a player that they are trading the F1 for and it would be crazy for us or North to be that desperate.

 

[4tune8]

I think Richmond would back themselves to turn a F1, f2 28 and 31 into 2 first rounders comfortably, particularly with f2 becoming the matching picks for top kids next year.

If a bid on Kako hasn't been made by pick 10 then I think it's hands down misère that the Tigers bid at 10.

Then let's see what happens with both of those F1's when pick 11 is on the table.

I think there's a high probability that 28 & 31 will be traded for futures as the night rolls on.

 

[tl92]

If a bid on Kako hasn't been made by pick 10 then I think it's hands down misère that the Tigers bid at 10.

Then let's see what happens with both of those F1's when pick 11 is on the table.

I think there's a high probability that 28 & 31 will be traded for futures as the night rolls on.

You mean a lay down misere?

 

[4tune8]

You mean a lay down misere?

Yeah, sorry, haven't played that game for 40 years.

 

[sr36]

If a bid on Kako hasn't been made by pick 10 then I think it's hands down misère that the Tigers bid at 10.

Then let's see what happens with both of those F1's when pick 11 is on the table.

I think there's a high probability that 28 & 31 will be traded for futures as the night rolls on.

Once someone bids 28 and 31 are gone. They have to use them to match if they haven't traded them out already. Richmond won't bid if they're keen on them - can probably only get 1 of them though as you won't have the list spots for 2.

 

[stavro#4]

Herald Sun -

The Saints also have picks seven and eight in the national draft but are considering trading one of those top-10 picks for two later selections in the first-round.

Richmond and GWS are both considering deals with the Saints.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

If North take Tauru at 2 Melbourne, Richmond and St Kilda all get bumped up one spot in the queue as far as picking the midfielder they want at 5,6,7.

I wonder how much that factors into no decent offers coming for pick 2 as of yet. St Kilda and Richmond have been considered suitors for it. Maybe they figure they can box North into taking Tauru early by not giving them a decent trade down option. Melbourne contributing by feigning interest in Tauru at 5.

They probably don't get the player they take if they had 2 but end up with a close alternative without having to pay anything. It's only one spot but could make a big difference in terms of preferred players being available. Could mean a Jagga gets to Richmond at 6 or a Draper to Saints at 7.

Of course, North could call their bluff and pick a mid at 2, so there'd be a fair few mind games going on.

I have us about 5% to draft Tauru at 2 (though was at zero a week ago). The underground rumblings say it’s a mid (Draper or FOS most mentioned). We’ve got four list spots open so I reckon if we hold 2 it’s mid at 2, River Stevens last and then they’ll move future picks later in the draft and grab a couple of sliding talls/talls around the mark in the hope they can develop one like Larkey.

At that I’m not sure the Dees showing interest in Tauru means much, we can’t get a trade back at the moment anyway so we still need to pick top of our board. Every club misses heaps of players they want.

 

[blaisee]

Reckon Nth hold Pick 2 for sure now

They will trade F1 for another pick in the first round, probably GWS pick 16 most likely

Reckon GWS keep the rest of their picks

Pick 2 staying at Nth, kills any chance of a saints and Richmond deal, and any saints and gws deal as well

 

[tigs2010]

I have us about 5% to draft Tauru at 2 (though was at zero a week ago). The underground rumblings say it’s a mid (Draper or FOS most mentioned). We’ve got four list spots open so I reckon if we hold 2 it’s mid at 2, River Stevens last and then they’ll move future picks later in the draft and grab a couple of sliding talls/talls around the mark in the hope they can develop one like Larkey.

At that I’m not sure the Dees showing interest in Tauru means much, we can’t get a trade back at the moment anyway so we still need to pick top of our board. Every club misses heaps of players they want.

Pick 2 best available
F1 for a current 1st to grab a tall forward
62 can probably grab tall defender
River

Done

 

[marcmurphy3]

Herald Sun -

The Saints also have picks seven and eight in the national draft but are considering trading one of those top-10 picks for two later selections in the first-round.

Richmond and GWS are both considering deals with the Saints.

Interesting. It would have to be 18 and 20 for 8. Even then not sure why the Saints would do it. They need top end talent more then anyone.

I imagine it'd be for Richmond to use. Not to trade to North. As they'd be using their trade collateral to get pick 8. Nothing left to add to it for a trade for 2.

Unless it's 7 and for 11 and 23 ot something (though that's not what the article infers).

 

[bc27]

Reckon Nth hold Pick 2 for sure now

They will trade F1 for another pick in the first round, probably GWS pick 16 most likely

Reckon GWS keep the rest of their picks

Pick 2 staying at Nth, kills any chance of a saints and Richmond deal, and any saints and gws deal as well

Could see Richmond and Saints striking deals to work something with picks 7,8 and 10,11 to make sure Melbourne don’t pick who they want at 9.

 

[stavro#4]

Interesting. It would have to be 18 and 20 for 8. Even then not sure why the Saints would do it. They need top end talent more then anyone.

I imagine it'd be for Richmond to use. Not to trade to North. As they'd be using their trade collateral to get pick 8. Nothing left to add to it for a trade for 2.

Unless it's 7 and for 11 and 23 ot something (though that's not what the article infers).

It could be for a variety of Richmond picks.

Could we do 8 + F1 for 10+11?

8+32 for 10+20?

 

[stavro#4]

Reckon Nth hold Pick 2 for sure now

They will trade F1 for another pick in the first round, probably GWS pick 16 most likely

Reckon GWS keep the rest of their picks

Pick 2 staying at Nth, kills any chance of a saints and Richmond deal, and any saints and gws deal as well

It doesn’t do anything of the sort.

You spout so much junk about pick trades.

There is plenty of interest in the saints splitting a pick and getting multiple back before pick 20.

It would give the Giants or Richmond a chance to pick at 8.

 

[JasRulz63]

Lions don't have enough points and so not likely to move picks for futures without getting picks back in this draft for points. Will depend on where the bid comes from. I hope it is pick 1 as other clubs need to make them pay for getting this much quality after winning flag. I doubt Tigers have a handshake deal as they had paid overs but who knows.

I suspect our first trade will be to sell 27 (+/- 34) to whoever offers us the most points (might be able to pick up an extra ~100 points), especially given the talk about the depth into the 20s in this draft.

While it seems like Richmond paid overs, Brisbane's pick was the only first round pick that was available for "junk" picks only. Twomey has said clubs don't think Richmond bid with pick 1 either. Definitely a bit of wishful thinking, but I don't think Richmond bid with pick 1.

 

[Hawks_Footy]

No inside word but i'd expect Dons to try and trade 28/31 for future picks and buy back in after the bid on Kako

 

[Rich01]

It could be for a variety of Richmond picks.

Could we do 8 + F1 for 10+11?

8+32 for 10+20?

For GWS I’d say 16 and 21.
For Richmond it would be 18 and 20.

Saints would probably look at the GWS offer but I wouldn’t be surprised it North offered their F1 for GWS 15, which would probably rule them out of the St Kilda trade.

GWS in a pretty good position here. Trade up, or trade well into the 2025 draft and still take some picks.

 

[stavro#4]

For GWS I’d say 16 and 21.
For Richmond it would be 18 and 20.

Saints would probably look at the GWS offer but I wouldn’t be surprised it North offered their F1 for GWS 15, which would probably rule them out of the St Kilda trade.

GWS in a pretty good position here. Trade up, or trade well into the 2025 draft and still take some picks.

The Giants require 6 players to fill their list. (Even accounting for them to re-rookie 3 players)

They have been interested in Ben Paton. Let’s assume he goes there.

They have picks: 15, 16, 21, 37, 56, 74.

I highly doubt they trade pick 15 for a future pick.

If anything p21 would be used on a future if they hold their current hand.

you would assume they try to go higher up the draft as the priority.

As proven by literally every other club and even your own fanbase with regards to their picks.

Picks in this draft trump future picks.

 

[blaisee]

Could see Richmond and Saints striking deals to work something with picks 7,8 and 10,11 to make sure Melbourne don’t pick who they want at 9.

doubt it

Richmond have 6, so will get their best option before saints picks

Also no need to trade with saints unless it end up with us getting pick 2

Pick 2 looks like staying with Nth, or worst case traded to pick 4 to Adelaide

No value in Richmond trading 10+11 unless they end up with Pick 2, or as Dylan Alexander has explained, getting two F1, from Essendon, if the Kako bid comes in at 9, or we may bid on it ourselves at 10

Looks like a blanket of second tier players all rated similarly Lindsay, Travaglia, Armstrong, Allan, Berry, Reid all available between 7 and 11, not including the slider out of the top 6, when Tauru is taken early