Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[Makeshift Park]

HAHA

Oh man, yeah I read it, I also read that next to the Pick 2 (3) that is Nth Melbournes, the name Alix Tauru is there, so that is both those journos predictions

Did you miss that bit?

I really do not get why Nth fans are being so touchy on this, there is every chance Tauru may end up being the best player taken in the draft, I mean it, he is competitor, is an awesome aerialist, a leader, and a terrific athlete

Its not being touchy.

You said said that the herald sun and the age know who North are taking.

Its clear by their own language that they don't.

So all we're doing is explaining to you with great patience why your initial premise was wrong.

 

[blaisee]

You seem incredibly confused between the differences of an opinion piece and a prediction.

And I'm not the touchy one, it's quite strange that whenever anyone poses the possibility of North actually keeping Pick 2 and taking a midfielder, you are here within minutes shooting it down, because of some arm length journalists opinion piece?

I wonder why that would be....

I am confused?

So a mock draft, is not a prediction piece?

Do you even believe what you are saying?

 

[Sphynx]

I am confused?

So a mock draft, is not a prediction piece?

Do you even believe what you are saying?

How old are you?

Do you want me to dreg up every mock draft by these types of journo's that were completely wrong over the years?


The only mock draft that counts is Twomeys, because he legitimately rings around every national recruiting manager the week of the draft, asking their opinions (in confidence) of who they think the other teams are going to pick or like (not who they are picking), then pieces it all together.

These mock drafts you are quoting will all change once Twomey releases his next Monday.

 

[Wild Bill]

Does anyone have the full mock draft from HS? If so can someone post it here please?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-phantom-draft-2024-chris-cavanagh-maps-out-the-top-35-picks-on-the-afl-draft/news-story/fe77a680b472865e6c8cdb836ca733c0

I would wait until Cal brings his mock draft out - his top 10 has a great hit rate.

1 Lalor
2 Tauru
3 Ashcroft
4 FOS
5 Draper
6 Langford
7 Smille
8 Smith
9 Lombard
10 Travaglia
11 Kako
12 Armstrong
13 Allen
14 J Whitlock
15 Lindsay
16 Shanahan
17 Berry
18 Hotton
19 Mraz
20 M Reid
21 Hynes
22 Marshall
23 Dattoli
24 Dodson
25 Alger
26 M Whitlock
27 Gross
28 Oliver
29 Trainor
30 Hannaford

 

[Wild Bill]

How old are you?

Do you want me to dreg up every mock draft by these types of journo's that were completely wrong over the years?


The only mock draft that counts is Twomeys, because he legitimately rings around every national recruiting manager the week of the draft, asking their opinions (in confidence) of who they think the other teams are going to pick or like, then pieces it all together.

Correct - Cal is the only one I pay attention to.

 

[blaisee]

How old are you?

Do you want me to dreg up every mock draft by these types of journo's that were completely wrong over the years?


The only mock draft that counts is Twomeys, because he legitimately rings around every national recruiting manager the week of the draft, asking their opinions (in confidence) of who they think the other teams are going to pick or like, then pieces it all together.

You might be right,

I was just asking if this is ITK thoughts, or just your opinion, just like the journos have opinions, but I am assuming they have done some research, my bad.

You refuse to answer that, and I have asked 3 times, so will just let this go

All good

 

[the big lebowski]

This is crazy

You reckon they have as much idea as me and you?

Really?

Our in the knows have relayed its best available at 2. Specifically between FOS and Draper.

They are always right.

So no need to argue.

Additionally there was talk that the Tauru talk was to throw clubs off if we traded down. My speculation to that is that if we traded down we were hopeful of Langford.

 

[blaisee]

Our in the knows have relayed its best available at 2. Specifically between FOS and Draper.

They are always right.

So no need to argue.

Additionally there was talk that the Tauru talk was to throw clubs off if we traded down. My speculation to that is that if we traded down we were hopeful of Langford.

Ok Thank you

 

[sr36]

This is when the intel starts getting real accurate from the footy media

By Sunday when Cal does his mock draft, can pretty much guarantee what will happen

He's said it's much harder to get intel this year. So we're waiting for draft night.

 

[Wild Bill]

He's said it's much harder to get intel this year. So we're waiting for draft night.

In the past it comes out a day or 2 before the draft so maybe next Monday?

 

[The Talent Scout]

Melbourne's tall forward issues still remain. They havent fixed that yet so a quality tall forward with one of their picks is a no brainer IMO.

Best mid available with 5.

Best KP forward with 9.

The first part I agree with the second if they went that way would be shake of the head stuff, they have Mathew Jefferson who they got as a first round key forward and Luker Kentfield from WA both are under 22 they don't need a key forward they need patience and time. List spots have never been so valuable, that is the key here, so yes while Harry in my opinion is the best key forward in the draft, to the Demons he would be a luxury.

This is why they got Mathew with such an early pick to partner Jacob in the forward line and another reason why they got Luker is because I assume Mathew is learning the ropes and Luker is that big bodied forward/target that they see as an important cog in their forward half. They have fixed their forward area of the ground but what is very very important in my eyes is midfielders, classy midfielders and a classy defender with lots of potential.

Now when you compare what they have and what we have, you start to see the picture, we have Nick and Finnbar Maley who is very raw, that is why we are going to get a key forward in this years national draft.

 

[sr36]

Might be one of the worst phantoms I’ve seen.

Twomey literally says Jagga and FOS won’t make it pick 7 on Gettable last week.

This Phantom - Pick 7 Jagga Smith St Kilda

Jagga should go 1. The most bankable mid in the draft if you ask me - aside from Ashcroft. Lalor, Lombard and FOS are the high ceiling guys who will start as forwards and may or may not graduate into the midfield. Tauru the most likely to be a star tall, but not as safe as Lalor and co, because talls dont have a fallback position like those guys who will be solid forwards if they dont develop into mids.

 

[sr36]

In the past it comes out a day or 2 before the draft so many next Monday?

Sorry, I meant even Cal's will be unreliable this year. 3 teams with 8 of the first 11, they're going to be sending out shite in the hope of getting their target to get to their secondary picks.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Jagga should go 1. The most bankable mid in the draft if you ask me - aside from Ashcroft. Lalor, Lombard and FOS are the high ceiling guys who will start as forwards and may or may not graduate into the midfield. Tauru the most likely to be a star tall.

Jagga seems like the classic type who slides to 6 or 7 based on perceived limited upside compared to others and then proceeds to make everyone looks silly for the next 15 years.

 

[sr36]

Jagga seems like the classic type who slides to 6 or 7 based on perceived limited upside compared to others and then proceeds to make everyone looks silly for the next 15 years.

Agree. Many star mids were perceived to not have the explosiveness to have a big upside. Neale, both Brownlow winning Mitchells. You don't have to be able to explode from a pack to be a star midfielder.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sorry, I meant even Cal's will be unreliable this year. 3 teams with 8 of the first 11, they're going to be sending out shite in the hope of getting their target to get to their secondary picks.

Ok - I still would take it as the most reliable one that will come out.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Melbourne's tall forward issues still remain. They havent fixed that yet so a quality tall forward with one of their picks is a no brainer IMO.

Best mid available with 5.

Best KP forward with 9.

The draft doesn't fix our KPF issues. We ideally need a key forward now whilst the window is still open.

For the future, we already have JVR who is an extremely exiting young KPF at AFL level, and we drafted Jefferson (the 2nd highest rated KPF behind Cadman) 2 years ago. Jeffo is building really nicely, he's a player. He still needs to build his body and continue to learn his craft in the VFL, but was still Casey's leading goal kicker. He's is right on track. He is still only 20 and raw, the club is managing him well, but he should be in line to play some senior footy this year.

 

[Obeanie1]

The draft doesn't fix our KPF issues. We ideally need a key forward now whilst the window is still open.

For the future, we already have JVR who is an extremely exiting young KPF at AFL level, and we drafted Jefferson (the 2nd highest rated KPF behind Cadman) 2 years ago. Jeffo is building really nicely, he's a player. He still needs to build his body and continue to learn his craft in the VFL, but was still Casey's leading goal kicker. He's is right on track. He is still only 20 and raw, the club is managing him well, but he should be in line to play some senior footy this year.

You don't draft for the now. You draft for the future.

So for the now Dees have missed that boat.

And in the future Melbourne needs another kp forward. And yes they do take time and the food ones are drafted predominately in the 1st 15 picks.

They also need another quality mid.

And they hold two top 10 picks.

Tauru may be an option as he can play 3rd tall back or forward reasonably soon.

 

[perplexed]

Our in the knows have relayed its best available at 2. Specifically between FOS and Draper.

They are always right.

So no need to argue.

Additionally there was talk that the Tauru talk was to throw clubs off if we traded down. My speculation to that is that if we traded down we were hopeful of Langford.

You don't really need to be ITK on this one. If we keep pick 2 we'll go 'best available' because that is what Rawlings has done every single time - even when it throws our list completely out of balance. Whilst other teams are hoping otherwise, there is nothing in his drafting history that suggests we are any chance of taking Tauru at 2.

 

[Andy_Mac]

You don't draft for the now. You draft for the future.

So for the now Dees have missed that boat.

And in the future Melbourne needs another kp forward. And yes they do take time and the food ones are drafted predominately in the 1st 15 picks.

They also need another quality mid.

And they hold two top 10 picks.

Tauru may be an option as he can play 3rd tall back or forward reasonably soon.

I think you're missing the point. We did draft for the future. In 2022. His name is Matthew Jefferson and he is going to be a really good player. We then went on to draft a 19yo., Luker Kentfield out of the WAFL as a back up. It would be a waste of an early pick to park another KPF so far back in the pecking order.

We need to be drafting for our next midfield cohort now. We need elite mids coming through to take over from Trac and Viney. If we were going to go tall it would be for a key defender in preparation for life after Lever & May. But even that's not a massive need right now. Harrison Petty goes back this year and Jake Lever is still only 28, so has 4 or 5 years of good footy ahead of him. That said, if Tauru is there at 9, then i'd expect the club takes him.

 

[Bjchan13]

Jagga should go 1. The most bankable mid in the draft if you ask me - aside from Ashcroft. Lalor, Lombard and FOS are the high ceiling guys who will start as forwards and may or may not graduate into the midfield. Tauru the most likely to be a star tall, but not as safe as Lalor and co, because talls dont have a fallback position like those guys who will be solid forwards if they dont develop into mids.

Agree on Jagga, Lombard though is also a sure bet for the midfield imo. FOS testing at the combine has cemented his place in the top group. Richmond want Lalor to be the next Dusty. May have the blinders on a bit there as they are huge shoes that only a once in a generation player could fill. Sounds like they wont do it but if i was Richmond id be looking at Jagga at 1 then best available bigger body mid at 6. If they are set on Lalor id probably trade 6 and 11 for 2 and take the Lalor/Jagga combo.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Agree on Jagga, Lombard though is also a sure bet for the midfield imo. FOS testing at the combine has cemented his place in the top group. Richmond want Lalor to be the next Dusty. May have the blinders on a bit there as they are huge shoes that only a once in a generation player could fill. Sounds like they wont do it but if i was Richmond id be looking at Jagga at 1 then best available bigger body mid at 6. If they are set on Lalor id probably trade 6 and 11 for 2 and take the Lalor/Jagga combo.

It won't happen!
It will probably be Lalor at Pick 1 and Smillie at pick 6.

 

[Bjchan13]

It won't happen!
It will probably be Lalor at Pick 1 and Smillie at pick 6.

Yeah i realise that it wont happen. They must not rate Jagga

 

[sr36]

Agree on Jagga, Lombard though is also a sure bet for the midfield imo. FOS testing at the combine has cemented his place in the top group. Richmond want Lalor to be the next Dusty. May have the blinders on a bit there as they are huge shoes that only a once in a generation player could fill. Sounds like they wont do it but if i was Richmond id be looking at Jagga at 1 then best available bigger body mid at 6. If they are set on Lalor id probably trade 6 and 11 for 2 and take the Lalor/Jagga combo.

Yeah Lombard's lack of hype has me wondering what I'm missing. I'd have him on the same line as FOS and Lalor, but no one is talking really early bid.

 

[sr36]

You don't really need to be ITK on this one. If we keep pick 2 we'll go 'best available' because that is what Rawlings has done every single time - even when it throws our list completely out of balance. Whilst other teams are hoping otherwise, there is nothing in his drafting history that suggests we are any chance of taking Tauru at 2.

Don't discount the possibility that he rates Tauru at 2.

I think he's more likely to become a star kpd than Lalor and FOS are to become star mids. More likely to flop though.