Rumour Draft Rumours 2024

[blaisee]

We haven’t offered it

It’s a scenario that we are happy to play out on draft night.

confused?

You haven't offered it, its not worth it, but you will offer it?

You want pick 2, but you want more picks?

What do you actually think is going to happen to the saints draft hand ?

You have Pick 7 and 8 and F1,

What do you think you will end up with, please be realistic

 

[sr36]

The reports after was it was Nil. Baker we couldn't.

Baker didn't go for overs in terms of trade. He's a very good player.

We know that salary cap is tradable - even if not officially yet. However it doesn't usually get reported as part of the trade. I bet it often is though

It seems a no brainer for tiges to have offered up some salary cap to maximise draft picks, needing to pay 95% this year and Balta the only one to front load.

I have no evidence, but it just makes sense that a couple of trades that went for overs are likely to have included something extra.

 

[Mostyn]

Problem is they just watched Gold Coast do ungodly things, WC bend over backwards and Freo be nice all to their benefit. They currently have the right to bask in the aroma of their own farts until proven otherwise.

Yeah, they've been so aggressively kissed on the dick by a handful of clubs that they think it should stay that way forever.

 

[blaisee]

Baker didn't go for overs in terms of trade. He's a very good player.

We know that salary cap is tradable - even if not officially yet. However it doesn't usually get reported as part of the trade. I bet it often is though

It seems a no brainer for tiges to have offered up some salary cap to maximise draft picks, needing to pay 95% this year and Balta the only one to front load.

I have no evidence, but it just makes sense that a couple of trades that went for overs are likely to have included something extra.

I am not sure why you keep saying it like it is true

Richmond are not paying any of Shai Bolton, or Daniel Riolis salary

 

[BrutThough]

but that is just it, it is not worth 15+16

If it was, this deal would be done allready

If this was real, there would be something going back to GWS with 8. But given this is all make believe and has no bearing on anything that will happen, I didn't see the pointing working out the extra picks that arent relevant to the current discussion.

 

[Mostyn]

no salary was paid, this has been reported and confirmed many times

Links?

 

[blaisee]

Links?

I am not your PA, google is your friend

 

[Mostyn]

So you do see then that clubs could who are in the top 5 could take a player from outside your top 5.

With all of the ructions this year at the Dees with both Petracca and Oliver exploring their options and Viney getting on they could well target a big bodied mid, both from a developmental perspective and as a hedge against players leaving, so Smillie comes into play.

North could well say "stuff it" and take Tauru at 2, not saying it will happen but it's a possibility. Maybe the Dees have Tauru higher on their board and could pounce, again, another possibility.

Just saying that your top 5 rankings could be different to how clubs have rated players on their boards

They have pick 6, and Smillie is a later in the first round selection - if they had an earlier pick they could get one of the tier one mids.

 

[sr36]

I am not sure why you keep saying it like it is true

Richmond are not paying any of Shai Bolton, or Daniel Riolis salary

Which part of: I have no evidence was me saying it as though it's true. I'm just speculating.

I'm just saying I think it's likely. With the tigers draft strategy and list position, why wouldn't they have offered some salary cap to maximise picks? I think they'd have been silly if they didn't. Either that or sign some horrendous contracts to pay 95% of the salary cap.

 

[GWS Goose]

What a terrible deal.

We want pick 2 and you have not only crafted a scenario that Richmond gets it. But we help facilitate and we use p8 in doing so for p20 in this draft and a future pick we don’t want as we literally 2 days ago told Jay Clark we want more first round picks not less.

Hence why our future first was the offer along with p7.

P8 would then be the pick we try and slide back with.

It sucks for North as well.

 

[blaisee]

Which part of: I have no evidence was me saying it as though it's true. I'm just speculating.

I'm just saying I think it's likely. With the tigers draft strategy and list position, why wouldn't they have offered some salary cap to maximise picks? I think they'd have been silly if they didn't. Either that or sign some horrendous contracts to pay 95% of the salary cap.

They did not offer it because they did not need to

TPP space is just as big a currency as draft picks

In 2025 the AFL has introduced trading draft picks for salary cap space

Lynch is on $1.5 m in 2025 as his contract ends, we will front load other contracts like Balta, to get to 95%

 

[stavro#4]

confused?

You haven't offered it, its not worth it, but you will offer it?

You want pick 2, but you want more picks?

What do you actually think is going to happen to the saints draft hand ?

You have Pick 7 and 8 and F1,

What do you think you will end up with, please be realistic

It really isn’t hard to work out.

Keep 7,8 trade F1 into the first round.

Keep 7 split 8

7+F1 for 2 and split 8

They would be the 3 options.

Clubs to target:

Richmond: 11 18 20 23
GWS: 15 16 21
Sydney: 19 22

Worth noting. We have a great relationship with GWS via Gubby.

 

[dazzledavey36]

SOS in the most overrated bloke in the industry. Remember when he tried to split the pick 9 to trade for Papley, Sydney laughed at him (Pick 9 straight up would have got the deal done).
Carlton at the draft then bid on 9 Liam Henry which was matched LOL, and 10 T.Green academy matched, but had no interest in drafting 11 Flanders, 12 Pickett or 13 W.Day so he traded the pick to get Kemp and Flip instead.
Or overpaying for Saad (8) despite him being out of contract and even admitting after the standoff Adrian The Dodo bird was hard to deal with and got the better of him in trading.

It is interesting as I actually don't think he is that highly rated as some think he is.

What I will say is that I am surprised he has not copped much heat for some of his absolute draft blunders as you have highlighted. Not only that, it's his willingness to recycle the same spuds he's drafted in previous clubs year after year.

 

[blaisee]

It really isn’t hard to work out.

Keep 7,8 trade F1 into the first round.

Keep 7 split 8

7+F1 for 2 and split 8

They would be the 3 options.

Clubs to target:

Richmond: 11 18 20 23
GWS: 15 16 21
Sydney: 19 22

Worth noting. We have a great relationship with GWS via Gubby.

So split 8?

Assume Richmond is not interested in helping because they want 2 themselves

Leaves you with GWS and Sydney, what do you think 8 is worth?

This is the key

Sydney have 19,22,44,59
GWS have 15,16,21,37,56,74

Sydney picks are probably too low for you, so GWS is the go

8= 15+ 21, this is very generous points wise probably rates Pick 8 at between Pick 4/5 you make out like bandits, this is best case scenario

What saints F1 worth? maybe Sydney's 22, maybe but I doubt it, no one wants to trade out, lets be generous and say Sydney gives you Pick 19.

You are left with 7+15+19+21 for 8 +F1

You can sit tight with this, or try get Nths pick 2

Nth have rejected Richmond 10+11

SO tell me how you get Pick 2?

Unless you give Pick 7, you cannot get Pick 2

 

[Coach_Required]

Why are saints fans happy to move on pick 8 to North for the right price but not pick 7?
I mean North fans keep telling us they want our pick 6 in any deal for pick 2. I hardly have seen any sainter mention 7.

 

[stavro#4]

So split 8?

Assume Richmond is not interested in helping because they want 2 themselves

Leaves you with GWS and Sydney, what do you think 8 is worth?

This is the key

Sydney have 19,22,44,59
GWS have 15,16,21,37,56,74

Sydney picks are probably too low for you, so GWS is the go

8= 15+ 21, this is very generous points wise probably rates Pick 8 at between Pick 4/5 you make out like bandits, this is best case scenario

What saints F1 worth? maybe Sydney's 22, maybe but I doubt it, no one wants to trade out, lets be generous and say Sydney gives you Pick 19.

You are left with 7+15+19+21 for 8 +F1

You can sit tight with this, or try get Nths pick 2

Nth have rejected Richmond 10+11

SO tell me how you get Pick 2?

Unless you give Pick 7, you cannot get Pick 2

We have pick 32 and there are rumours of a Cole bid.

So not really an issue with any of those teen pick scenarios.

And we don’t need to do anything else. We offered a deal for pick 2. There isn’t a desperation for it.

If north was Tauru as has been reported. They will take our offer.

If they don’t they will happily bend over like west coast and talk up their haul of mid first round picks.

Don’t confuse making an offer with desperation. My club is very well placed in this draft to move if required

 

[Coach_Required]

We have pick 32 and there are rumours of a Cole bid.

So not really an issue with any of those teen pick scenarios.

And we don’t need to do anything else. We offered a deal for pick 2. There isn’t a desperation for it.

If north was Tauru as has been reported. They will take our offer.

If they don’t they will happily bend over like west coast and talk up their haul of mid first round picks.

Don’t confuse making an offer with desperation. My club is very well placed in this draft to move if required

What's your offer again? I can't be bothered scrolling back page after page.

 

[Morro]

Agreeing with Morro

The BF equivalent of buying a parrot and teaching it to repeat you

REPORTED!

Bullying

 

[stavro#4]

What's your offer again? I can't be bothered scrolling back page after page.

7+F1

 

[blaisee]

We have pick 32 and there are rumours of a Cole bid.

So not really an issue with any of those teen pick scenarios.

And we don’t need to do anything else. We offered a deal for pick 2. There isn’t a desperation for it.

If north was Tauru as has been reported. They will take our offer.

If they don’t they will happily bend over like west coast and talk up their haul of mid first round picks.

Don’t confuse making an offer with desperation. My club is very well placed in this draft to move if required

You still haven't answered my question

What do you realistically think is going to happen in the end regarding the saints draft position, especially since you do not have any issue with those teen pick scenarios, and working on the assumption that 10+11 or 11+13 has been offered to Nth for Pick 2 by Richmond

 

[stavro#4]

You still haven't answered my question

What do you realistically think is going to happen in the end regarding the saints draft position, especially since you do not have any issue with those teen pick scenarios, and working on the assumption that 10+11 or 11+13 has been offered to Nth for Pick 2 by Richmond

Retain 7

Split 8 to GWS for 15+21

Keep our F1 in our back pocket if something tasty is there

 

[Coach_Required]

7+F1

It's a good offer, however North just freed up another list spot so not sure they are looking at just taking 2 players this draft (if they intend on using that late pick).

Your post above would be more inticing 7 & 15 and you get pick 2 and still have 21. If GWS are open to trade those picks for 8.

 

[blaisee]

Retain 7

Split 8 to GWS for 15+21

Keep our F1 in our back pocket if something tasty is there

I actually agree with that

SO

Leaves us with the Pick 2 situation

What do you think happens with Pick 2?

And if it gets traded, who to and what for?

 

[stavro#4]

I actually agree with that

SO

Leaves us with the Pick 2 situation

What do you think happens with Pick 2?

And if it gets traded, who to and what for?

I think p2 gets traded.

North need to decide what they actually want to do.

Do they want the player they apparently love in Tauru? He is there at 7. You’re not offering 6.

So if yes, they trade with us and find another first with our F1. There will be one.

Or they do a west coast. Based off that rumour it seems they end up with 13+15 and maybe something else.

It’s a pig dressed up in make up. But if they want to celebrate that and call it a win. So be it. They may land Trainor.

But they traded for quantity as opposed to a target

 

[Oraaaaazio]

I know for a fact from someone in Traralgon that Geelong have indeed asked him to come down for vfl-i would have still thought that's the path for him but maybe he will get on an afl list now as you say. Id be surprised if we took him straight from gippsland league. I know that Geelong are quite keen on henderson and obviously through the mannagh connection they would know what they are getting.

Yeah there have been VFL clubs asking after him for the last 4 years and knocked back each time for lifestyle preferences (cricket, mates, work). There's other clubs interested so I'm confident he's not moving to Geelong for VFL unless all those clubs are selling him on the MSD possibility. Jack Hutchinson (West Coast) was mentioned as possible #1 MSD pick basically direct from Gippsland League (following 1 VFL practice match) and Joe Richards from O&M has shown he's capable at AFL level so not unheard of. Anyway, think we're talking about a late ND/rookie chance, not the number 1 priority for the draft board I spose. Obviously wouldn't be the first bloke to not get picked up after being told he will either!