Rumour Draft Rumours 2024

[4tune8]

That could be why you are trying to hold 6 and get 2......Lalor/FOS/Jagga be some haul. All different but all compliment each other

The Tigers board has been banging on about it since the talk of Port being involved with pick 10. Pretty fair chance that one of Langford/Jagga/Smillie get to pick 6.

Funny thing is that Blair knocked back using pick 10 & Baker to secure WCE pick 3 which would have seen them with Baker & 10 rather than Baker & 12 that they ended up with. Guess it was more a timeline thing though as the Freo trade couldn't go ahead until the Baker deal was done, we needed 14 from Baker to enable 10, 11 & 18 from Freo.

Got a feeling that the Tigers list management identified that picks 2 & 3 were gettable and if we had managed to secure 3 then it would have made using 6 in the trade with North a lot more palatable.

 

[4tune8]

Well they should get him there. I find it very interesting that they had Jagga, Finn and Langford all play for their VFL team yet they don't seem interested in any of them.

I don't think it's right to say that the Tigers aren't interested in any of them, just that it was a very good opportunity to fine tune the rankings of each, we've been very tight lipped so no one knows where we rank any of the players, nor what our plans are with pick swaps, it's all conjecture.

 

[THE_GUN]

Mate, Richmond supporters thought Matt Clarke was their list manager until the draft.

I don't believe any of them ever heard of Blair Hartley before that.

No we all knew he was not the list manager

We just didnt tell the eagles or Pyke

Sucked in

 

[tigs2010]

Well they should get him there. I find it very interesting that they had Jagga, Finn and Langford all play for their VFL team yet they don't seem interested in any of them.

We love Finn. Don't think Lalor is a fait accompli at 1 yet.

We did request to have Reid & Smillie too but their clubs didn't allow. Surprised we didn't ask for Ashcroft

Take out Lalor injured & Draper interstate and we tried to get all the mids in for a look.

 

[THE_GUN]

Lol - it's hilarious reading the Richmond supporters try to convince themselves pick 6 is somehow fantastic.

It's good for NM, who want Tauru. It's the sixth best mid for anyone else - mids with flaws, like Smillie and Reid.

Everyone else that's been in the mix for the top 5 are looking at FOS, Jagga, Lalor, Draper and Langford.

Out of curiosity how do you know Richmond are not into Tauru / Armstrong with pick #7 ?

Lalor , Draper , Jagga , FOS , Langford , Smillie , Reid , Armstrong , Tauru all could go anywhere in the top 10
You me and everybody else wouldnt have a clue which of these players are rated at what pick

Richmond could easily have traded Baker + #10/#11 for pick #3 but Blair didnt want that
There is a reason he didnt take it and most likely his rating of players is different to what we all have here

If it was such a out right top 4 Richmond could easily have had #1 , #2 , #3 in this years draft
BUT IT IS NOT

 

[bc27]

Richmond pretty much hold the power for how the first round will play out.
The will be as cagey as they have ever been about which prospect interests them.

I find it hilarious that anybody on here or any media outlet seem to think that they have any idea who Richmond want.

They may not even be giving any indication to players that they want, they may even be meeting with players or agents of players that they don’t want just to throw off some teams to let their prospects get thru.

So I wouldn’t be reading much into any info that’s been leaked so far…and I would not be surprised to see Richmond go a very different direction as to what is the general consensus. Probably starting at pick 1.

 

[Danog]

Something like:

Rich Give 10 + 11 + 20, Get 2 + 16
GWS Give 15 + 16, Get 13 + 20
Port Give 13 + 29, Get 10 + 62
North Give 2 + 62, Get 11 + 15 + 29

If it shakes out like the above, North and Saints could still do a trade.

North Give 11 + 29
Saints Give 7 + 47

North end with 7, 15, 47
Saints end with 8, 11, 29, 32

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I don't think it's right to say that the Tigers aren't interested in any of them, just that it was a very good opportunity to fine tune the rankings of each, we've been very tight lipped so no one knows where we rank any of the players, nor what our plans are with pick swaps, it's all conjecture.

Fair enough, it's just they don't seem to be doing much to move up the order, but who knows what happens between now and draft day.

I find it hilarious that anybody on here or any media outlet seem to think that they have any idea who Richmond want.

That's... kinda what this thread is about. Rumours.

 

[blaisee]

That would be Richmonds hope,all 3 of their favored mids. Thats the dream. But with Saints offer for 2 now, it makes it really, really unlikely.

Personally i don't think Tiges will miss the chance to guarantee 2 of their elite 3. To get only 1 is highly likely if their 2nd Pick is 6. They would be mad to not take Lalor and their choice of FOS or Jagga imo. What with plenty still to come after 1 & 2.

But their chance of 2, or dreamily even 3 of their elite with their current picks, pretty much disappeared with the Saints offer to North.

Of course they can keep their own picks, which is still a great hand, and prolly get Smillie at 6 and work their way through the other picks. But if i were them, i'd nail down Pick 1 and 2 and still have plenty left over to fatten their draft.

you reckon the saints are going to get Pick 2 with Pick 7 and F1 ?

When 2025, F1 has a historical low value?
When Pick 7 has a historically low value compared to 2 ( its pretty much the same quality player as pick 10,11,12 in this draft )
and when nth need 4 picks in this draft in 2024, and only have Pick 2 and their futures to play with, they are going to be stuck with saints F1, to sell into this years draft, with another 18 clubs who also want to get to round 1 2024?

 

[blaisee]

If it shakes out like the above, North and Saints could still do a trade.

North Give 11 + 29
Saints Give 7 + 47

North end with 7, 15, 47
Saints end with 8, 11, 29, 32

yep

 

[THE_GUN]

Yeah I go back and forth each day in my mind, dunno....keep pick 2, FOS could be absolutely anything....I like the certainty of the pick
Maybe 1 top 10 and an early teens is ok, end up with 2 picks......dunno. Don't like than uncertainty.
It all feels a bit stage-managed to me.....I think there's a strong possibility there's already an in-principle deal agreed to. I'm suss as to why we've opened up more list spots, so something feels like it's going/gone down.

Tauru could be the next naughton or even better
The kid has not yet turned 18 and was mentioned he is now 195cm tall according to some posts (november born)
He could just as easily become the best in the draft in 5 years time.

Would you take FOS over LDU , Kerch , Reid , JHF , Sheezel , Ashcroft and a few others ?
Based on 2024 FOS really is not worthy of pick #2 and neither is Lalor , Draper , Langford or Smillie and only Jagga has shown elite potential but his size and style indicates a lower ceiling

North want Tauru and for good reason but maybe just maybe Richmond also have their eyes on him and thats why we want to keep the perfect pick for him that we hold. Mids are available at other picks as well so i wouldnt be too upset with
#1 - Lalor / FOS
#6 - Tauru
#10 - Allan . Smillie , Hotton , Reid , etc

 

[bc27]

That's... kinda what this thread is about. Rumours.

Which are all completely useless.

 

[TerryWallet]

you reckon the saints are going to get Pick 2 with Pick 7 and F1 ?

When 2025, F1 has a historical low value?
When Pick 7 has a historically low value compared to 2 ( its pretty much the same quality player as pick 10,11,12 in this draft )
and when nth need 4 picks in this draft in 2024, and only have Pick 2 and their futures to play with, they are going to be stuck with saints F1, to sell into this years draft, with another 18 clubs who also want to get to round 1 2024?

The point is Nth will only trade 2 if 6 or 7 come back in return. The only reason to trade it is to get Tauru or if not, Armstrong. You have 6, so you get first dibs. If you wanna keep 6, which is your choice, then Nth move on to the decision of keeping 2 or trading for 7 & StK F1.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Well they should get him there. I find it very interesting that they had Jagga, Finn and Langford all play for their VFL team yet they don't seem interested in any of them.

I think they’re trying to get up to 2 precisely because they very much do want Finn.

I think they want to walk out of there with Lalor, FOS and Smillie. Then they can perhaps grab a few talls later on, in the area where lots are looking like being taken.

Smart strategy.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Which are all completely useless.

Do you go up to kids who are having their photo taken with Santa and sitting on his knee and tell them he’s not real?

In between pulling the wings off flies?

 

[bc27]

Richmond also asked for Murphy Reid to play VFL but were knocked back by Sandy.
Also asked for Smillie but he was carrying a niggle and eastern knocked that back.

 

[4tune8]

Do you go up to kids who are having their photo taken with Santa and sitting on his knee and tell them he’s not real?

In between pulling the wings off flies?

You only pull one wing off a fly, that way they buzz around in circles

 

[richoatthedisco]

As a neutral, and taking the tidbits that have come out thru The Hun and C4, i have attempted to work this thru. Club supporters involved should not look for their desired "big win" just that the 4 clubs are happy with desired positions that improve their wants, and what is achievable.

NM:
Out: 2 & F1
In: 6, 13, 18 & 24.

Rich:
Out: 6, 10, 18 & 24
In: 2, 15 & GWS F1

GWS:
Out: 15 & GWS F1
In: NM F1

Port:
Out: 13 & 29
In: 10 and some advantageous later pick or swap this year or next from whoever is driving this deal most.

Satisfies C4's rumour
Satisfies the Hun rumour which was Pick 2 and a F1 for 6&10
Satisfies Richmonds want for Pick 2 and maximise quality for their haul.
Satisfies Norths wish to split to Pick 6 and bring their build into this year.
Satisfies GWS want for an elite pick instead of teens
Explains the Port involvement and their apparent belief that a kid with a normal Top 3 CV will be their. Reid or Lindsay come to mind.

You sure you're not a North supporter?

 

[aussierulesrules]

You only pull one wing off a fly, that way they buzz around in circles

Well there you go

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Brady Rawlings clearly stated we were happy to explore dropping back a "couple of picks" if it worked in our favour......for it to be "Richmond not prepared to use 6" does seem a little arrogant to me. But yeah sure, no harm in asking I guess....but that's not how it's been reported or portrayed.

No he didn't stop talking

The Kangaroos' first pick has long been linked with a switch to a rival, with the Tigers believed to be keen to snare the first two selections in this year's draft.

Head of Football talent Brady Rawlings admitted shortly after the end of the trade period that after utilising Picks 24 and 44 to secure Caleb Daniel, Luke Parker and Jacob Konstanty during the trade period, they were "light on" with selections.

However, Rawlings was open to using Pick 2 to help slide down the order, as well as the club's future pick.

"There's options with the two," Rawlings said last week.

"There's options with our future hand. We've got future one, two, three and four still up our sleeves.

"We can trade all the way up until draft night. We can trade on the night.

"So we'll keep exploring ways to improve our draft hand."

 

[LB2Snake]

Tbh I've been hearing Smillie is the 3rd.

Wow. Righto.

 

[juss]

I wonder who Richmond want at 6. Do they really like Smillie, Tauru or Reid? Or are they hoping Jagga or Langford fall there?

Smith would be a dream at pick 6 but I doubt he gets there, he's a possible at 1.

Smillie seems to have falled out of favour, if we assume Lalor goes pick 1, I think we will try and nab one of the following that slides, Smith, FOS, Draper, Langford, modest chance one is available

 

[Mostyn]

Top 5 now?

In an hour it will be a top 6.

Tomorrow the Crows 2nd pick will be equal its first at this rate

No, it's always been a top four and Langford in every single thing I've posted, or will post.

Langford has some genuine weapons but also big issues around foot speed. Some get excited about what he did against other juniors, other don't.

I don't think Tauru is worth 6 as a third tall, but NM does. No one else gets close.

 

[Mostyn]

Tbh I've been hearing Smillie is the 3rd.

Lol - what's it like back in June?

 

[tigs2010]

No, it's always been a top four and Langford in every single thing I've posted, or will post.

Langford has some genuine weapons but also big issues around foot speed. Some get excited about what he did against other juniors, other don't.

I don't think Tauru is worth 6 as a third tall, but NM does. No one else gets close.

You have to be trolling at this point. At least I hope so.