Rumour Draft Rumours 2024

[Muddiemoose]

Unfortunately it’s a massive expense for the club if things don’t work out. I get it. But can just be unlucky with some concussions.
I hope he ends up at North though. Love how he plays.

He’s definitely one of the most interesting “sub plots” for draft night

Great talent and as we all know key position players are probably the rarest commodity’s in the comp but the recent concussion developments obviously have the clubs on edge so it’s a real risk v reward play

For everyone’s sake I hope whoever takes the punt on him get rewarded for it

 

[LB2Snake]

He’s definitely one of the most interesting “sub plots” for draft night

Great talent and as we all know key position players are probably the rarest commodity’s in the comp but the recent concussion developments obviously have the clubs on edge so it’s a real risk v reward play

For everyone’s sake I hope whoever takes the punt on him get rewarded for it

Whoever gets him will be wrapt with the way he plays. Aggressive as.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

I agree. And just to hammer the point home these are the three scenarios IF Rich did offer 6 and 20:

1. Tauru (using pick 2)
2. FOS (using pick 2)
3. Tauru AND Trainer (trading pick 2 for 6 and 20)

Noting the above selections are hypotheticals based on players avail and who they would select.

This all relies on no one else taking Tauru before them which you can’t be sure of.

 

[triggering bro]

This all relies on no one else taking Tauru before them which you can’t be sure of.

I suspect clubs with picks in the top 6 or so will have a pretty good idea who each are selecting on draft night. Blues would hope NM use pick 2 on Tauru so that FOS is available at 3.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

I suspect clubs with picks in the top 6 or so will have a pretty good idea who each are selecting on draft night. Blues would hope NM use pick 2 on Tauru so that FOS is available at 3.

You’d think so but it’s still a gamble. Blues are keen on FOS, Lalor and Smith so they take whoever is left really.

 

[sr36]

On paper picks 6 and 20 for pick 2 looks very reasonable. From North’s perspective they get who they want anyway (Tauru) and pick 20 is a free hit on a flat middle-lower first round. The Tigers are probably considering FOS vs Smille + a player at 20 they may like at 10 (given the flatness of that part of the draft).

I actually think this trade appeals to North more than Rich and I can understand why Rich are baulking and only offering pick 10/11 rather than 6 at this stage. But 10/11 ain’t getting Tauru so this deal has fallen over. It’ll be interesting to see if Rich fold and offer pick 6 cos ultimately I reckon 6 and anything in the first 25 should see the deal get done.

Richmond will only do it if they see a significant gap between who they'd get at 2 versus who they'd get at 6. If their ratings are really close, it's not worth it for them.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Richmond will only do it if they see a significant gap between who they'd get at 2 versus who they'd get at 6. If their ratings are really close, it's not worth it for them.

Agree to a point but think it’s not just the “ratings” either

Given how depleted we are the difference between 6 and 2 is also us being able to pick the player we actually want the most and who will complement best with who we pick with pick 1

Over potentially settling for whoever happens to slide to pick 6
Not saying they wouldn’t be a fantastic player either just more about being to give us the most control in who we actually get if that makes sense

 

[sr36]

Agree to a point but think it’s not just the “ratings” either

Given how depleted we are the difference between 6 and 2 is also us being able to pick the player we actually want the most and who will complement best with who we pick with pick 1

Over potentially settling for whoever happens to slide to pick 6
Not saying they wouldn’t be a fantastic player either just more about being to give us the most control in who we actually get if that makes sense

I think your over thinking it and over assuming they become top liners.

The cupboards bare. Getting a few long term top liners will be the goal. You don't want to worry too much about the blend yet. That'll be handled down the track by trades once you've got a long term base from the draft.

 

[Muddiemoose]

I think your over thinking it and over assuming they become top liners.

The cupboards bare. Getting a few long term top liners will be the goal. You don't want to worry too much about the blend yet. That'll be handled down the track by trades once you've got a long term base from the draft.

Absolutely possible but it could also be a byproduct of us also already having an extremely strong presence in the first round of the draft and the club thinks that we can have our cake and eat it two

If we are talking about the difference between taking 8 players in the top 24 (excluding academy that we can’t get anyway) or 7 it’s definitely a possibility

The other factor is that the club is trying to retain 6 but still target 2

 

[blaisee]

blues and saints desperate for Nth to keep Pick 2 and take Tauru

Means Fos falls to Pick 3 to the blues and One of Langford, Draper, Smith Smillie falls to Pick 7 to the saints

Richmond see little difference between Player at Pick 6 and Pick 2, certainly not worth the player available at 18/20

ATM that player as far Mark Mcgowen https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...out-the-top-40-prospects-20241024-p5kl0v.html

reckons is Trainor/Dettoli/Faull/Alger

So Richmond think Smillie+Trainor/Dettoli, is > Fos

Very important to ignore the picks and rate the players .

ATM looks like Saints and Carltons dreams will come true.

 

[BarkerFan]

blues and saints desperate for Nth to keep Pick 2 and take Tauru

Means Fos falls to Pick 3 to the blues and One of Langford, Draper, Smith Smillie falls to Pick 7 to the saints

Richmond see little difference between Player at Pick 6 and Pick 2, certainly not worth the player available at 18/20

ATM that player as far Mark Mcgowen https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...out-the-top-40-prospects-20241024-p5kl0v.html

reckons is Trainor/Dettoli/Faull/Alger

So Richmond think Smillie+Trainor/Dettoli, is > Fos

Very important to ignore the picks and rate the players .

ATM looks like Saints and Carltons dreams will come true.

Saints will be very happy if north trade 2 for 6 + whatever from tigers... Means north will take Taurus at 6.... If North keep 2 they may take a mid

 

[blaisee]

Saints will be very happy if north trade 2 for 6 + whatever from tigers... Means north will take Taurus at 6.... If North keep 2 they may take a mid

Saints will not be happy if Nth trade Pick 2 to Richmond, because Pick 6 will not be traded, it will be for 10+11, which puts the saints and the blues in a panic like I have explained

Saints much more likely to trade for Pick 2, but it will cost 7+

In the end SOS is trigger happy, so I reckon it happens, might even be the right move

 

[swuzzlebubble]

the blues in a panic

I would not think so. You take Lalor & FOS, we take Smith/Draper/other

 

[Juice030103]

Saints will not be happy if Nth trade Pick 2 to Richmond, because Pick 6 will not be traded, it will be for 10+11, which puts the saints and the blues in a panic like I have explained

Saints much more likely to trade for Pick 2, but it will cost 7+

In the end SOS is trigger happy, so I reckon it happens, might even be the right move

I can promise you we are not in a panic

 

[blaisee]

I can promise you we are not in a panic

well since you promised lol

 

[Crow till I die]

I can't believe I'm finding myself bored and late posting about Tauru but here we are... is it definitely a case of Alix Tauru - No Matter What on a post it note? I'm guessing yes.

So if the Dees genuinely have an interest in Tauru, it's got to be pick 5 doesn't it? In which case it wouldnt matter if it was 6 or 7 traded down to.

Let's assume Dees are happy to miss Tauru, isn't it generally accepted that the Tiges are keen on Smillie at 6 if they keep it?

So if Dees go mid at 5, Tiges go Smillie, then 7 will still get Tauru.

Assuming the above is correct, Tauru and 6 or 7 would be a given - so all that matters is the extras.

I'd still suggest Saints will want something back if they offer 7 & F1, my preference (obviously) would be Norths F2. I think either St Kilda or Norths F1 would be worth a pick better than 18 in this year's draft.

Richmond realistically shouldn't be offering more than 6 & 18, especially if the Smillie talk is real.

End of the day, Cadman was never a consensus pick 1 but the Giants were happy to take him early. Tauru at 2 is a few picks higher than his range but it's not an impossible reach.

The extra spot for North now suggests a pick swap is at least likely if not definitely happening. At this point, I've used a lot of ifs, maybes, assumptions and the likes - if nothing else, it's giving us all something to think about in the lead up to the draft.

IF they are set on Tauru, they could trade wih Adelaide if the crows could find an f2 out of some of their f3's and drop from 2 to 4 gaining an f2 and still picking ahead of melbourne and whoever else may want him. Crows getting 2 means they secure Draper you would suspect

 

[GoTigers2015]

The Age Phantom Draft has club linked to several players
https://archive.md/ajbeb

Langford Adelaide and Melbourne
Lindsay StKilda
Armstrong Richmond/StKilda and Melbourne
Alger Richmond/GWS/WBD
Dodson Richmond
Hynes Melbourne/West Coast or Port

 

[Tommy Wigs]

It's a good strategy even if it wasn't a genuine option for these teams.

Melbourne grabbed pick 9 thanks to rumours they (and Saints) were keen on Kako.

Now Melbourne (and Saints) might be keen on Tauru. So do North call the Dees bluff and do the trade down to 6 or 7, or they take Tauru at 2 - which in essence means Dees are picking the 4th 'live' mid instead of the 5th. Keeping in mind if Saints/Tiges grabbed pick 2, that would mean Dees have access to the 5th best 'live' mid.

I could be way off the mark, but if I was a list manager I'd absolutely use those tactics and play it out in the media to my advantage.

Agree, there will be lots of game playing. Until the McGowan update yesterday there had been a link to the talls for St Kilda in most draft updates. His intel suggests clubs think otherwise and it’s two mids.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Agree, there will be lots of game playing. Until the McGowan update yesterday there had been a link to the talls for St Kilda in most draft updates. His intel suggests clubs think otherwise and it’s two mids.

Lindsay would make an awful lot of sense for us. We were supposedly willing to sell the farm for Zac Merrett, so you’d think we’d be all over the younger version of him.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

It's a disaster the Eagles with their list only have one first round pick this year.

If I were them I would've told Baker "thanks but no thanks, go to Freo or stay at Richmond" and taken Jagga at 3, but the people running the Eagles are clearly much smarter or much stupider than me.

 

[LB2Snake]

If I were them I would've told Baker "thanks but no thanks, go to Freo or stay at Richmond" and taken Jagga at 3, but the people running the Eagles are clearly much smarter or much stupider than me.

Was certainly odd as wasn’t there a story that FOS and Harley were mates too…..I’m sketchy in the details of that. Not close mates I don’t think, but played rep footy together for years or something.
But surely you’d try and bring in support for Harley and a country Vic kid would be a good start.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Was certainly odd as wasn’t there a story that FOS and Harley were mates too…..I’m sketchy in the details of that. Not close mates I don’t think, but played rep footy together for years or something.
But surely you’d try and bring in support for Harley and a country Vic kid would be a good start.

Wasn't bringing in Baker partly to support Reid anyway?

 

[Mofra]

The Age Phantom Draft has club linked to several players
https://archive.md/ajbeb

Langford Adelaide and Melbourne
Lindsay StKilda
Armstrong Richmond/StKilda and Melbourne
Alger Richmond/GWS/WBD
Dodson Richmond
Hynes Melbourne/West Coast or Port

Happy to see the Alger link to us.
Looks like Langford goes 4 or 5 (live picks) which is fair.

 

[LB2Snake]

Wasn't bringing in Baker partly to support Reid anyway?

Dunno. In what way? Because he’s a good player? Well then yes I guess