Society/Culture Drag Queen Story Time Cancellations

[DaBarz]

I thought this deserved a thread of its own instead of being lumped into other threads. I’m very dismayed recently at the cancellation of various drag queen story time events or them moved online to ensure safety of staff, parents and kids:

Victorian councils to hold emergency meeting on far-right targeting of drag queen storytime events

Move comes after at least 10 LGBTQ+ events across Australia cancelled or postponed over the past six months

www.theguardian.com

‘Incredibly disappointed’: Drag queen story time moved online after threats

Eltham Library has become the latest in a string of libraries cancelling a drag queen story-time event amid fears protesters are now targeting other inclusion events.

www.theage.com.au

Drag queen Betty Confetti's story time event cancelled at Goulburn library after threats to council staff - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

These events are being cancelled due threats and abuse received from far right protesters, the same anti vaccination groups, closely aligned with the neo Nazis and some religious fundamentalists.

I thought in Australia if a group was going around violently threatening a kid’s event 99% of society would want the government and police to crack down on that group and to ensure the kid’s can safely attend that event. However we seem to be kowtowing to the protesters and not doing anything to ensure these legal events can go ahead safely?

Even if you personally would not attend a drag queen event every parent has the right to decide whether or not they should attend such an event, and not have themselves or their children face harassment.

Can I just ask - why are there no Drag Kings ?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Can I just ask - why are there no Drag Kings ?

They're not as prominent but they do exist.

Strapped, packed and taking the stage: Australia’s new drag kings

Drags kings have recently been declining in popularity, partly due to the evolving debate around gender and identity. But now a new and more inclusive drag culture is taking the stage.

theconversation.com

 

[DaBarz]

They're not as prominent but they do exist.

Strapped, packed and taking the stage: Australia’s new drag kings

Drags kings have recently been declining in popularity, partly due to the evolving debate around gender and identity. But now a new and more inclusive drag culture is taking the stage.

theconversation.com

Do they feel the same need to engage with young children ?

 

[Engimal v3]

Do they feel the same need to engage with young children ?

I just googled "drag king storytime" and it seems to exist. Why do you ask?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Do they feel the same need to engage with young children ?

Come on man, it's not like they are catholics or anything like that.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Do they feel the same need to engage with young children ?

It would depend on the person. People like the Wiggles, they have an affinity for working with kids that not everybody has. It takes a special kind of patience to work at a child's level for an extended amount of time.

I don't have kids of my own but I've watched my friends' kids grow up from babies and being around herds of children from 3 - 8 is exhausting. They've got energy to burn and even just watching them running round like little lunatics leaves me drained let alone being roped into their play.

Some adults haven't had the bad luck of that spark being snuffed out by the real-world pressures of living yet. Such people don't grow on trees, so once they clear a police check I say we're lucky to have them at all.

 

[DaBarz]

Come on man, it's not like they are catholics or anything like that.

I see your fall back position is religion.
Let’s leave that out of this argument as that is a topic for another day.
Talking about direct interaction with young children and the portrayal of women by them. Ie big hair big boobs outlandish make up

And whoever brought the Wiggles and Emma Wiggle into the argument is also muddying the waters.

 

[DaBarz]

They're not as prominent but they do exist.

Strapped, packed and taking the stage: Australia’s new drag kings

Drags kings have recently been declining in popularity, partly due to the evolving debate around gender and identity. But now a new and more inclusive drag culture is taking the stage.

theconversation.com

“Traditionally, drag queens are seen as parodying the characteristics associated with women. We immediately think of drag queens with big hair and overdone make-up, and body language that conforms to stereotypical “female” behaviour “

Perpetuating an old stereotype seems odd if these people see themselves as progressives

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I see your fall back position is religion.
Let’s leave that out of this argument as that is a topic for another day.
Talking about direct interaction with young children and the portrayal of women by them. Ie big hair big boobs outlandish make up

And whoever brought the Wiggles and Emma Wiggle into the argument is also muddying the waters.

It’s a good comparison to make with religion because we never see or hear of drag queens sexually assaulting children, while every second day we hear about religious folk getting caught doing just that.

Yet it seems to be mostly religious people that are performing against drag queens.

Why do you think that is?

 

[DaBarz]

It’s a good comparison to make with religion because we never see or hear of drag queens sexually assaulting children, while every second day we hear about religious folk getting caught doing just that.

Yet it seems to be mostly religious people that are performing against drag queens.

Why do you think that is?

I said religion has nothing to do with this topic.
Although I do wonder at the way some of the left choose to select religious schools for their children’s education.

What would you choose ? Saint Peter’s College or a school run by Drag Queens? Anyway , I digress.

The issue was raised regarding portraying outdated and demeaning stereotypes of women. Do you have an opinion on that or is that too hard?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I said religion has nothing to do with this topic.
Although I do wonder at the way some of the left choose to select religious schools for their children’s education.

What would you choose ? Saint Peter’s College or a school run by Drag Queens? Anyway , I digress.

The issue was raised regarding portraying outdated and demeaning stereotypes of women. Do you have an opinion on that or is that too hard?

In case you haven't noticed, some women do have big hair and big boobs. Not all drag queens do, so it sounds like you are stereotyping.

A school run by drag queens would probably be safer for kids than a school run by a church, if history is anything to go by.

 

[Gethelred]

The issue was raised regarding portraying outdated and demeaning stereotypes of women. Do you have an opinion on that or is that too hard?

Could you outline which specific part of a drag queen's performance you feel is outdated or demeaning of women? Then, could you provide examples of those specific steriotypes occurring during drag queen story hour?

 

[DaBarz]

Could you outline which specific part of a drag queen's performance you feel is outdated or demeaning of women? Then, could you provide examples of those specific steriotypes occurring during drag queen story hour?

It was a previous poster that provided the link
My post was a direct quote

Here’s a random pic- could post a 1000


You tell me if this is your average female

Or this

 

[DaBarz]

In case you haven't noticed, some women do have big hair and big boobs. Not all drag queens do, so it sounds like you are stereotyping.

A school run by drag queens would probably be safer for kids than a school run by a church, if history is anything to go by.

Seriously ?
A school run by drag queens as opposed to an elite college ?

No - they don’t all stereotype /
Some have beards

 

[Gethelred]

It was a previous poster that provided the link
My post was a direct quote

Here’s a random pic- could post a 1000

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You tell me if this is your average female

Or thisView attachment 1706770

What specifically about these images is demeaning towards women, or propagates derogatory steriotypes?

If there's a problem, surely you can express what it is.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Seriously ?
A school run by drag queens as opposed to an elite college ?

No - they don’t all stereotype /
Some have beards

Your elite college has a long history of sexual abuse of children.

 

[Gough]

I had a South African ex who had a lot of mates in the Joburg Jewish scene and some of their mum's had bigger hair than that, stranger colours in some cases too.

 

[DaBarz]

I had a South African ex who had a lot of mates in the Joburg Jewish scene and some of their mum's had bigger hair than that, stranger colours in some cases too.

Cool story

 

[Gough]

Cool story

True too, it was the 90s.

 

[DaBarz]

Your elite college has a long history of sexual abuse of children

My elite college ?
Really ? MY elite college ?
How long ago ?
Maybe you should start a thread on it
This one is about drag queens

 

[DaBarz]

Cool story

Did they have beards

 

[Gough]

They were beards from time to time.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

My elite college ?
Really ? MY elite college ?
How long ago ?
Maybe you should start a thread on it
This one is about drag queens

Many drag queens would have gone to elite colleges, just like yours.

You can't rule it out.

 

[DaBarz]

They were beards from time

Mmmmm
They sound confused

Many drag queens would have gone to elite colleges, just like yours.

You can't rule it out.

That has nothing to do with my argument

Again - for the intellectually bereft - would you send your children to an elite school that was religion based or a school run by drag queens ?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Mmmmm
They sound confused

That has nothing to do with my argument

Again - for the intellectually bereft - would you send your children to an elite school that was religion based or a school run by drag queens ?

I sent my child to the local state school. If there was dress up storytime in the library there, I would much rather it be a drag queen, as opposed to clergy.