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I wonder how many teams, like Adelaide, have gone 20+ years without a draw.

And which two sides have played in the most draws against each other.
 
red+black said:
I wonder how many teams, like Adelaide, have gone 20+ years without a draw.

And which two sides have played in the most draws against each other.
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The teams that have played the most draws against each other are Carlton and Essendon and Carlton and Swans, with 6 drawn games each, although Carlton and the Swans have not played a draw since 1967.

There are only two other teams to have gone more than 20 years without a draw; St Kilda from 1922-1943 and Melbourne from 1971-1992, so Adelaide are the record holders. I went through the drawn results from 1897-present, and completed the following list of the longest draw droughts for each team:

ADELAIDE - 22 years - 1994-present (League Record)
BRISBANE BEARS - 5 years - 1987-1992
BRISBANE LIONS - 7 years - 2009-present
CARLTON - 15 years - 1935-1950
COLLINGWOOD - 15 years - 1995-2010
ESSENDON - 15 years - 1929-1944
FITZROY - 19 years - 1961-1980
FREMANTLE - 18 years - 1995-2013 (Longest time for first draw)
GEELONG - 18 years - 1969-1987
GOLD COAST - 4 years - 2011-2015
GWS - 5 years - 2012-present (No draw to date)
HAWTHORN - 17 years - 1968-1985
MELBOURNE - 21 years - 1971-1992
NTH MELBOURNE - 15 years - 1988-2003
PORT ADELAIDE - 7 years - 2005-2012
RICHMOND - 15 years - 1980-1995
ST KILDA - 21 years - 1922-1943
SYDNEY/STH MELB SWANS - 15 years - 1922-1937
UNIVERSITY - 5 years - 1909-1914 (Left VFL at end of 1914)
WEST COAST - 12 years - 2003-2015 (Drew final with Collingwood in 2007, with the Magpies winning in extra time)
WESTERN BULLDOGS (FOOTSCRAY) - 16 years - 1957-1973
 
Funny how Collingwood matches have twice caused rule changes for draws:
1990 - drawn QF with West Coast --> excluding the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time
2010 - drawn GF with St Kilda --> including the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time

Maybe one year Collingwood will have 2 H&A draws and the AFL will adopt extra-time for H&A matches.
 

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35Daicos said:
The SANFL has produced just the one draw this year, and it came in the final H&A round, with Sturt (who finished 3rd) and Glenelg (7th) tied on 86 points apiece.
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That was a near thing to a repeat of 2004 – the first complete season since 1907 with no draws in any of the VFL/AFL, SAFL/SANFL, WAFL/WANFL/WASFL/Westar Rules and VFA/VFL!

The WAFL, for the fourth consecutive season, has not produced a draw – the last was in 2012 between deadly rivals East Perth and West Perth, though owing probably to man-made climate change draws have been extraordinarily rare in the WAFL since 1975. Over the past 42 WANFL/WAFL/Westar seasons, there have been a mere 14 drawn games out of 3798 – one every 271¼ games or a third the rate in the other competitions are in the pre-1975 WA(N)FL.
red+black said:
Funny how Collingwood matches have twice caused rule changes for draws:
1990 - drawn QF with West Coast --> excluding the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time
2010 - drawn GF with St Kilda --> including the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time

Maybe one year Collingwood will have 2 H&A draws and the AFL will adopt extra-time for H&A matches.
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Actually the change was not related to the 2010 Grand Final, and was announced a full five seasons later after being rejected in the initial review.
 
red+black said:
Funny how Collingwood matches have twice caused rule changes for draws:
1990 - drawn QF with West Coast --> excluding the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time
2010 - drawn GF with St Kilda --> including the grand final, all drawn finals to have extra-time

Maybe one year Collingwood will have 2 H&A draws and the AFL will adopt extra-time for H&A matches.
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The Pies must like finals draws, being in both their Premiership seasons of the last sixty years. Although no such luck in '77.
 
Catsace said:
The Pies must like finals draws, being in both their Premiership seasons of the last sixty years. Although no such luck in '77.
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Ironically, Melbourne and Collingwood drew on 76 points a piece in Collingwood's premiership season of 2010, with Collingwood drawing the 1977 Grand Final with North Melbourne 76 points each.
 
I really hope they keep the draw in footy, I know it's unpopular to a lot of people but I like it.
 
The first draw in the AFL Women's competition was played today between GWS and Fremantle just 3 games into the new competition. This is quite ironic considering that the Fremantle Dockers took 18 years from their debut in 1995 to draw against the Sydney Swans in 2013, and the GWS have never played a draw to date since commencing in 2012.
 
Ron The Bear said:
494 Adelaide v St R14 1994
178 Western Bulldogs v Ri R5 2008
140 North Melbourne v Ri R16 2009
135 Brisbane v Es R19 2009
126 Hawthorn v St R17 2010
116 Collingwood v St GF 2010
107 Melbourne v Sy R1 2011
86 GWS no draws
69 Port Adelaide v Ri R23 2012
66 Richmond v PA R23 2012
62 Sydney v Fr R8 2013
61 Fremantle v Sy R8 2013
21 Essendon v Ca R23 2014
20 Carlton v Es R23 2014
3 Gold Coast v WC R18 2015, West Coast v GC R18 2015
0 Geelong v St R21 2015, St.Kilda v Ge R21 2015
(332 Fitzroy v Ca R1 1982, 90 Un v Fi R18 1909)

As was pointed out to me by KennyK, Saturday night's draw marked the end of the second-longest extant sequence of games between two clubs without a draw, after 210 matches. The remaining big one is Geelong/Sydney, still yet to record a draw after 217 games. Next is Collingwood/Richmond (181), whose only drawn match was in 1917.
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Update?
 

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Dirty Bird said:
Update?
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536 Adelaide v St R14 1994
221 Western Bulldogs v Ri R5 2008
182 North Melbourne v Ri R16 2009
172 Brisbane v Es R19 2009
169 Hawthorn v St R17 2010
153 Collingwood v St GF 2010
145 Melbourne v Sy R1 2011
107 Port Adelaide v Ri R23 2012
106 Sydney v Fr R8 2013
105 Richmond v PA R23 2012
100 Fremantle v Sy R8 2013
58 Essendon v Ca R23 2014, Carlton v Es R23 2014
45 West Coast v GC R18 2015
41 Gold Coast v WC R18 2015
37 St.Kilda v Ge R21 2015
0 GWS v Ge R15 2017, Geelong v GWS R15 2017
(332 Fitzroy v Ca R1 1982, 90 Un v Fi R18 1909)
 
Nantes said:
I really hope they keep the draw in footy, I know it's unpopular to a lot of people but I like it.
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They should keep it in the regular season. It makes sense to not have them in finals.
 
Ron The Bear said:
Carlton R1 & 2 1911
Carlton R4 & 5 1921
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University in their brief tenure drew only twice, but the two draws came in three weeks late in the 1909 season. They tied against Collingwood at East Melbourne in Round 16 (the only time the Students took premiership points from the Magpies) and in Round 18 against Fitzroy at the Lions' Brunswick Street Oval home ground.

Today's result is quite remarkable; no draws since 2015 and then two in successive weeks by the GWS Giants, which had never drawn a match since their 2012 debut.

Then there is Adelaide, with the Crows' last draw taking place in 1994, the same year recording artists Justin Bieber and Harry Styles, actresses Dakota Fanning and Zoey Deutch, swimmer Bronte Campbell and Canadian tennis player Eugenie Bouchard were all born.
 
emuboy said:
Then there is Adelaide, with the Crows' last draw taking place in 1994, the same year recording artists Justin Bieber and Harry Styles, actresses Dakota Fanning and Zoey Deutch, swimmer Bronte Campbell and Canadian tennis player Eugenie Bouchard were all born.
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artists?

Some of them far from that...lol
 
The longest current draw droughts by Round are Rounds 9 & 13. There hasn't been a drawn Round 9 match since 1960 when the Richmond Tigers and their feline cousins the Geelong Cats shared the points 11.17-83 to 12.11-83 at Punt Road. The last drawn Round 13 match was the famous Melbourne vs. Collingwood Queen's Birthday game of 1957, the Magpies and the Demons tying 7.7-49 to 6.13-49 at Victoria Park.

There has never been a tied game in Round 24 in the limited number of seasons that the AFL has used a 24 round season, while it took 91 years for a draw in Round 17, Collingwood and North Melbourne finishing their Round 17 1988 game in a 14.8-92 to 13.14-92 stalemate.
 
I wonder what the shortest period of time for a team to record a 3rd draw is? I'd imagine if GWS get another draw in the next year they would probably take that record.
 
emuboy said:
The longest current draw droughts by Round are Rounds 9 & 13. There hasn't been a drawn Round 9 match since 1960 when the Richmond Tigers and their feline cousins the Geelong Cats shared the points 11.17-83 to 12.11-83 at Punt Road. The last drawn Round 13 match was the famous Melbourne vs. Collingwood Queen's Birthday game of 1957, the Magpies and the Demons tying 7.7-49 to 6.13-49 at Victoria Park.

There has never been a tied game in Round 24 in the limited number of seasons that the AFL has used a 24 round season, while it took 91 years for a draw in Round 17, Collingwood and North Melbourne finishing their Round 17 1988 game in a 14.8-92 to 13.14-92 stalemate.
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Correction - thanks to 35Daicos for picking this up - there was a draw in Round 17 1921 between Essendon and Fitzroy.
 
In the 1999 VFL Season, the Preston Knights became one of the only sides I can think of to avoid the wooden spoon despite winning just 1 game for the season.

The Knights had a dismal record of 1-15-2 in an 18 game season which should have guaranteed them the wooden spoon, but the Bendigo Diggers went 2-16 and due to the Knights' higher percentage the Diggers were consigned to last as the 2 premiership points from each draw of the Knights saved them from finishing on the bottom of the ladder.
 

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